Topic: The OFFICIAL Big N rumor thread *bring your own salt*

[BlackNMild2k1]

Sam Kennedy of 1up.com seems very confident that Wii2 will not have Friend Codes
http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3172958

he also says this:
-“Not just like a new controller,” implying that there’s something more to the system than simply a new input device.
-It’ll have a “Wii vibe” and high definition graphics, ”plus something,” meaning another feature we’re unaware of.
-Apparently Nintendo fans will be like “wow.”

http://wiihdrumors.com/the-wii-2-wont-use-friend-codes/

the source above also points out some speculation from Variasuit.com about Nintendo having delayed the eShop for that same reason. Something that I speculated on and hope to be true. They are speculating that No Friend Codes on Wii2 and delayed eShop for 3DS leads to Nintendo working out the details of their new Account based system.

[Sarail]

So Much for golf and bowling.

Except that you can still use the Wii Remotes (and Motion+) with it.

But developers will use the Wii Remotes as much as they have used Gamecube controllers this generation.

Exactly.

And that's what thrills me to death. Time to get back to basics while reinventing the wheel. It's possible to do this with a more traditionally inclined controller. I'm sick of motion controls. And it seems that developers are, too. Yay.

[Mop it up]

I don't want to use a handheld system to play my console games.

[NWR_insanolord]

I don't want to use a handheld system to play my console games.

I do.

[Mop it up]

What's the point? Even Nintendo have said that the home and portable systems need to be unique. There's no reason to make a console more like a portable, just as making a portable more like a console doesn't really work out.

[Chozo Ghost]

-It’ll have a “Wii vibe”

The rest sounds very promising, but I can't say I'm happy about this "Wii Vibe" business. I was just browsing the Wii Shop Channel, and let me tell you listening to that Wii elevator music over and over and over on a loop makes me just want to blow my brains out.

[NWR_insanolord]

What's the point? Even Nintendo have said that the home and portable systems need to be unique. There's no reason to make a console more like a portable, just as making a portable more like a console doesn't really work out.

Maybe I'm just weird, but I'd prefer to play most games on a handheld. Unless it requires specific controls (motion, mouse/keyboard, or a special proprietary controller) or is more of a party game (something like Mario Party or Smash Bros. or Rock Band), I want to at least have the option of playing it on a handheld.

[Nemo]

I don't want to use a handheld system to play my console games.

I do. But only if it's the 3DS in some kind of super-cool, innovative way for one or two games. :B

[Mop it up]

Maybe I'm just weird, but I'd prefer to play most games on a handheld. Unless it requires specific controls (motion, mouse/keyboard, or a special proprietary controller) or is more of a party game (something like Mario Party or Smash Bros. or Rock Band), I want to at least have the option of playing it on a handheld.

Are you saying what you want is one unified game you can buy and play on both a console and a handheld? I'd be okay with that idea... though the current handhelds can't provide the same games as consoles can. They'd need better tech.

[NWR_insanolord]

Maybe I'm just weird, but I'd prefer to play most games on a handheld. Unless it requires specific controls (motion, mouse/keyboard, or a special proprietary controller) or is more of a party game (something like Mario Party or Smash Bros. or Rock Band), I want to at least have the option of playing it on a handheld.

Are you saying what you want is one unified game you can buy and play on both a console and a handheld? I'd be okay with that idea... though the current handhelds can't provide the same games as consoles can. They'd need better tech.

That would be awesome, but I'd settle for just being able to buy handheld versions of the console games. Playing games on a big screen doesn't appeal to me in the same way as watching movies or TV one one would, and since that's the one real advantage consoles have over handhelds, I'd rather just play handhelds. I'm really interested to see what comes of Sony's NGP, which seems to be a handheld PS3. If the thing gets real software support, I'll definitely buy one.

I like the idea that's been brought up of a console that can stream games to the controller with the screen. Even though I prefer handhelds, I spend most of my time playing them in my own home. I just like to be able to play them while I or someone else watches TV, or to take it from one room to another without much hassle. The streaming capability would give me the option of playing the same game on either my TV or on the handheld unit, presumably carrying over save data and all that between the two. I really hope that rumor is true.

[BlackNMild2k1]

You wouldn't presumably carry over save data if you're streaming the game to the controller, as you would be playing the game on the console but just viewing it on the controller. It's still the same game being played on the same system.

[ThePerm]

It is painful to read comments on Youtube. What you could have done is disabled comments for that video.

and then id get private messages

[NeoStar9X]

-It’ll have a “Wii vibe”

The rest sounds very promising, but I can't say I'm happy about this "Wii Vibe" business. I was just browsing the Wii Shop Channel, and let me tell you listening to that Wii elevator music over and over and over on a loop makes me just want to blow my brains out.

I just hope this means the new console will keep a Wii remote like controller in addition to whatever new controller is included. I think it's crazy that Nintendo would do away with the control scheme. They have to know it works very well and is the better control method for certain genres. Include both controllers (more buttons on the motion controller) so developers will make control schemes for both.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Rumor Consolidation 2011

September 2010:
-Itagaki of Team Ninja hints at game Devil's Third being made for Wii2

October 2010:
-Marvell QuadCore processors for new console - *This might have had something to do with Kinect, But I don't remember.
-IBM implies that Wii2 uses Cell based PPC

November 2010:
-Marvell Quad cores gets a large order: From large console manufacturer - *once again might be Kinect related.
-House of the Dead: Overkill 2 in the works 
-EA reviving NFL Blitz

December 2010:

January 2011:
-UltraViolet Media Cloud service coming to a console - Most Likely Sony since Sony is a partner.
-New Pokemon game for Wii

February 2011:
-Wii2 announcement coming soon according to THQ

March 2011:
-Wii2 announcement coming soon according to EA
-AMD working on CPU/GPU combined chip for console due for release @ end of 2012; Told to bring schedule in for earlier release

April 2011:
-Monster Hunter 3DS to be announced soon
-SSFIV3D connects to home console - Hint @ Wii2 from Capcom and 3DS -> Wii2 connectivity
-Wii price drop to $150 on May 15th
-Wii2 announcement @ E3: 1080p HD, More powerful than PS360, BC with Wii, release late 2012 *Partially Confirmed*
-New Wii2 controller has HD screen built in
-Wii2 to use Bluray technology
-Wii2 actually aimed at early 2012 release (1st half 2012) *IGN backs this up in their mailbag*
-Controller Screen is actually a Touch Screen
-Project Cafe: Wii2 Controller is a Tablet: 6" touch Screen on Controller, front facing camera & doubles as sensor bar for BC *Codename Confirmed*
-Dual Analogs, Streaming & Games Wii2 controller to rival 3DS, NGP, iPhone & iPad apparently
-1st & 3rd Party games @ E3 EA, Ubisoft & Capcom all but confirmed
-Wii2 = TriCore PPC & R700 class GPU w/ 512+MB Ram Another surprise to be shown @ E3
-3rd Parties have had Wii2 Dev Kits for Months, Has better Motion Tracking than Move
-Pikmin 3 moved to Project Cafe to be shown @ E3; Nintendo also in talks with R* for solid AAA support.
-Wii2 launch June 2012; Rockstar delivering game (?GTA V?) during launch window
-Wii2, 3DS & E3!? Oh Yes!!; 3rd Parties taking a front seat this time around.
-Retro working on Wii2 game; and it's "a project everyone wants us to do" (Starfox? Zelda? New Original FPS?)
-Retro's new game is actually Eternal Darkness 2?
-"Where there's smoke, there's fire" - Miyamoto's comment on Project Cafe - He also said not to believe everything you hear though.
-Wii2 controller has a 6.2" screen and 8 buttons
-1up says: No Friend Codes for Wii2
-Retro making DKCR sequel for Wii2?
-Project Cafe Codename Confirmed; 01net rumors now have even more credibility
-Nintendo Select = $19.99 Players Choice line? *Confirmed*
-Project Cafe E3 Publishers List?
-Haptic Feedback & Vitality Sensor Built In?
-Project Cafe: 8GB onboard Flash, 25GB disc & 1080p

[BlackNMild2k1]

It appears that the Project Cafe code name may have some truth behind it.
This is as close to a confirmation of one of the rumors we will get until it comes out of Nintendo's own mouth, which will hopefully be 12am pst/3am est Monday nite during the Nintendo Investors meeting @4pm JPN Time on the 26th.

Well, it seems whoever was first on reporting the codename was definitely up to something. Try this:

https://www.warioworld.com/nitro/
https://www.warioworld.com/wii/
https://www.warioworld.com/ctr/

Works, right? Now lets make something up:

https://www.warioworld.com/neogaf/
https://www.warioworld.com/believe/

404, obviously. Now try this:

https://www.warioworld.com/cafe/

For those that don't get it, WarioWare.com is a Nintendo development site.


If you put the codename/name of several systems it takes you to the front page. You put something that isn't Nintendo's, then you get an error.

https://www.warioworld.com/NWR/ = 404 error
but https://www.warioworld.com/cafe/ = working page

[BlackNMild2k1]

Another (more reliable site?) says that Retro's showcase title for Wii2 that they've been working on for some time now is actually a sequel to Donkey Kong Country Returns.
http://www.fudzilla.com/games/item/22483-new-donkey-kong-country-for-wii2

[Caterkiller]

Man BlackNMild you are one super sleuth! Thats the right word isn't it?

I would love to see another DK for the Wii2, espeically with Dixie and more animal buddies reintroduced, but what about the interview with them saying they would not be doing another DK for a while?

[BlackNMild2k1]

How long is a while?

It's also possible that they are finally working on more than one project at the moment too. So when they say they won't be working on one for a while, that could mean we won't see it for atleast a year, or maybe this rumor is just BS. We won't know either way until someone official starts talking . So maybe Late Monday nite or the usual "Wait till E3"

[Chozo Ghost]

Another (more reliable site?) says that Retro's showcase title for Wii2 that they've been working on for some time now is actually a sequel to Donkey Kong Country Returns.
http://www.fudzilla.com/games/item/22483-new-donkey-kong-country-for-wii2

They're going to make 3 Donkey Kong Country Returns games and then after that they'll make a Limited Edition DKCR Prime Trilogy which will have all of them on one disc.

[NWR_insanolord]

Retro is hiring what amounts to another whole development team, so unless they're losing a lot of people, it seems like the studio is expanding to allow for more simultaneous projects.

[BlackNMild2k1]

It appears that the Project Cafe code name may have some truth behind it.
This is as close to a confirmation of one of the rumors we will get until it comes out of Nintendo's own mouth, which will hopefully be 12am pst/3am est Monday nite during the Nintendo Investors meeting @4pm JPN Time on the 26th.

Well, it seems whoever was first on reporting the codename was definitely up to something. Try this:

https://www.warioworld.com/nitro/
https://www.warioworld.com/wii/
https://www.warioworld.com/ctr/

Works, right? Now lets make something up:

https://www.warioworld.com/neogaf/
https://www.warioworld.com/believe/

404, obviously. Now try this:

https://www.warioworld.com/cafe/

For those that don't get it, WarioWare.com is a Nintendo development site.


If you put the codename/name of several systems it takes you to the front page. You put something that isn't Nintendo's, then you get an error.

https://www.warioworld.com/NWR/ = 404 error
but https://www.warioworld.com/cafe/ = working page

Looks like they have a Cafe header image up and ready. code name confirmed.

https://www.warioworld.com/images/cafe/cafe_header.jpg


https://www.warioworld.com/images/splash/cafe_high.jpg / https://www.warioworld.com/images/splash/cafe_low.jpg


That puts some weight behind everythign else that 01net.com has leaked so far.


Everything 01net has said so far

[Ceric]

It appears that the Project Cafe code name may have some truth behind it.
This is as close to a confirmation of one of the rumors we will get until it comes out of Nintendo's own mouth, which will hopefully be 12am pst/3am est Monday nite during the Nintendo Investors meeting @4pm JPN Time on the 26th.

Well, it seems whoever was first on reporting the codename was definitely up to something. Try this:

https://www.warioworld.com/nitro/
https://www.warioworld.com/wii/
https://www.warioworld.com/ctr/

Works, right? Now lets make something up:

https://www.warioworld.com/neogaf/
https://www.warioworld.com/believe/

404, obviously. Now try this:

https://www.warioworld.com/cafe/

For those that don't get it, WarioWare.com is a Nintendo development site.


If you put the codename/name of several systems it takes you to the front page. You put something that isn't Nintendo's, then you get an error.

https://www.warioworld.com/NWR/ = 404 error
but https://www.warioworld.com/cafe/ = working page

Looks like they have a Cafe header image up and ready. code name confirmed.

https://www.warioworld.com/images/cafe/cafe_header.jpg

I'm so going to laugh if in the end of this we find that Nintendo actually changed the codename just for the hype that was being caused by Project Cafe.

[MegaByte]

Funny thing. I found this independently and was writing up the story. I wish I had looked sooner.

I'm so going to laugh if in the end of this we find that Nintendo actually changed the codename just for the hype that was being caused by Project Cafe.

As you can see from my story, I checked out the image dates, and they're from before the rumors first broke.

[NWR_insanolord]

We need to bring BnM on as Rumors Editor.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Everything 01net has said so far
- Wii2 = "Project Café"

- Developer quotes: graphics capabilities "roughly equal to those of the Xbox 360", performance "over the Xbox 360, but just a notch".

- custom IBM PowerPC CPU with three cores

- RAM: unknown. 01net speculates: It would be logical that it is a unified RAM, like the 360, with a minimum of 512 MB

- Graphics processor: AMD (ATI) - probably a series R700, with a shader (for managing the effects) more recent than the Xbox 360 (probably version 4.1).

- controller has a 6" touch screen; 16:9, Single Touch, Sub HD with a resolution of ~800 x 500

- a front-facing camera

- Standard set of buttons (D-Pad, two bumpers, two triggers (4 face buttons?) & IR lights (like a sensor bar)

- Wireless streaming of video content to controllers w/o need for TV.

- Controllers are clients, all processing is done on the console then streamed in HQ with no lag

- Another Surprise feature

- To be revealed at E3

- Launch in June 2012

- Rockstar among 1st to recieve SDK's and have a game planned

- Controller Mockup closest to actual controller according to their source "looks like a close cousin of the uDraw Tablet":