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New Smash Brothers Characters Revealed

by Bryan Rose - July 14, 2014, 7:11 am EDT
Total comments: 49

If you like Fire Emblem, today's your lucky day!

Lucina and Robin from Fire Emblem: Awakening have been confirmed for the upcoming Smash Bros. games for 3DS and Wii U.

The video shown this morning revealing them has Chrom wounded. Lucina takes the blade to fight Captain Falcon from the F-Zero series who is now confirmed to be in the game. The trailer also shows Robin (the default name for your avatar character in Fire Emblem: Awakening) using various tomes to subdue enemies. This, along with other Fire Emblem characters Ike and Marth, are showcased in the trailer.

Towards the end of the video, right after Chrom says perhaps another day he'll join the fight, he too is revealed as being part of the fray, in what appears to be a Final Smash for one of the characters. A female version of Robin was revealed as well, perhaps as an alternative outfit.

The Nintendo 3DS version of Smash Bros. is out Oct. 4, with the Wii U version coming in the fourth quarter of 2014. Check out the trailer below!

Talkback

AdrockJuly 14, 2014

Three in one reveal is pretty awesome. A lot of representation from one game let alone a B-level Nintendo series. There's now more Fire Emblem representation than Zelda though Ganondorf is a shoe-in. Robin looks really fun and different than Marth and Ike.

Nice to see Captain Falcon official too.

Newsflash: Fire Emblem isn't B-tier anymore. #PraiseTheWaifus

CaterkillerMatthew Osborne, Contributing WriterJuly 14, 2014

I gotta take it all in! I am absolutely blown away!


That Gematsu leak hasn't been proven false aside from when characters would be revealed but we got Chrom and SOOOO MUCH MORE!


A 4 in one today! 5 FIRE EMBLEM REPS! THERE IS HOPE FOR RIDLEY!!!!


Can I get a HIP HIP HOORAY!!!!!!? :confused; ?

Am I the only one that found this intro video to be super confusing? I know Sakurai likes trolling us with misdirection in these, but I couldn't follow this one at all. Maybe my memories of FE: Awakening are just too fuzzy?

PlugabugzJuly 14, 2014

*continues waiting* for Ray. Or at the very minimum, some mention to the Disaster universe.

AdrockJuly 14, 2014

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Newsflash: Fire Emblem isn't B-tier anymore. #PraiseTheWaifus

Nah, until it starts doing Mario or Zelda numbers, it's still not on the same level. They can't even justify a non-crossover Wii U version.

Anyway, after watching the reveal trailer again, I don't think Chrom is selectable. He looks like Robin's Final Smash. They're both circling Captain Falcon and Omnislashing his face and pride.

Luigi DudeJuly 14, 2014

-A Fire Emblem character that uses magic is finally playable
-Reveal shows there are still new characters the leaker didn't reveal, meaning Ridley still has a chance
-CAPTION FUCKING FALCON!!!

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Nile Boogie ReturnsJuly 14, 2014

I have no idea who these people are? They will all be fodder for the guns of the Mac!

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*continues waiting* for Ray. Or at the very minimum, some mention to the Disaster universe.

There need to be two Rays: the one from Disaster: Day of Crisis and one from Custom Robo. Or if Sakurai really wanted to troll, make those both different costumes of the same character.

I am pretty happy with this, as not only did we get a Fire Emblem Character who isn't generic lord guy with a sword, but said character actually seems to finally reprisent the spirt of the series' tactical use of items that possess durability between the various tomes and that levin sword, which Robin was not shown to be wielding the entire time. I am most certainly Psyched for the living embodiment of Grima!

Lucina... honestly, better be a Marth skin. >_>;; considering the fact that the mysterious 'Marth' character you encounter in the earlier parts of FE:A happens to be her and the fact that she is super duper clone-tastic from the looks of this reveal trailer is really making me hope.


It is kinda funny that Chrom ended up the odd man out here and as a result this... kinda breaks the Gematsu leak, which from what I'm guessing is probably an insider who ended up getting relieved of this position over at Bandai Namco VERY early on in the game's development and that his information is outdated. 


That being said, I kinda feel like a jackass now for posting that drawing of the Monado showing the Smash Bros. Symbol onto Miiverse. I mean, there's still a lot of evidence in Shulk's favor, and I almost feel like we got the fire emblem characters just to subvert that expectation a little bit.

AdrockJuly 14, 2014

Lucina's moves looked different than Marth's, but they could always be the alternate customization moves.

Still, aw, Roy. Aw.

A couple more quick fire observations.

Lucina was not given one of the double sized NEWCOMER buttons on the official Website

They chose the dorkiest pose for Captain Falcon's official art, which I am fully looking forward to when he comes in amiibo form.

Captain Falcon seems to be taking a lot of design cues from his GP Legend design. actually, if he had the gold shoulderpad and the pointier chin, he'd almost look like the Rick Wheeler Version.

http://puu.sh/aaXyE/c90571cb4e.jpg Please tell me that this is the face Captain Falcon now makes when he performs his Down air spike move.

Luigi DudeJuly 14, 2014

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It is kinda funny that Chrom ended up the odd man out here and as a result this... kinda breaks the Gematsu leak, which from what I'm guessing is probably an insider who ended up getting relieved of this position over at Bandai Namco VERY early on in the game's development and that his information is outdated. 

That does seem like the case.  For Greninja the leaker only said a Pokemon from X/Y, which as we found out at the E3 roundtable, Sakurai picked Greninja because he liked the characters design when he was shown the early X/Y designs, and that Geninja didn't even have an official name yet.  The leaker also said recently around E3 that there was debate about if Lucas should be cut or not.  Something like that would have been happening much earlier in development when they were deciding what resources would be spread out, not a few months ago when the game is in the final stages of development.

As we know from Brawl, they plan all the characters at the beginning and then make cuts from there.  I wouldn't be surprised of Chrom was planned early on, but then Sakurai realized what many of us did that 3 blue haired Fire Emblem sword using lords taking up the character select screen is too much.  So they cut Chrom in favor of using Robin who actually represented the player in Fire Emblem, and allows for the use of magic attacks, making them a much needed unique Fire Emblem character.  They probably took the Chrom model they worked and decided to use it for Robins Final Smash since why let a character they worked on go to complete waste.


So yeah, Chrom is probably the special case where he was originally going to be playable but got changed.  For Shulk and Chorus Men, I don't see them getting cut since they represent new franchises for Smash Bros with completely unique movesets.  Plus as we saw from the Smash Run demo, there's a Rhythm Heaven ghost enemy in it which means a Rhythm Heaven character is playable.  Of course Sakurai might have the Chorus Men in favor of a different Rhythm Heaven character, but either way, we're getting some kind of crazy Rhythm Heaven character that I expect to be insanely awesome.

Triforce HermitJuly 14, 2014

Absolutely freaking amazing. Especially Robin. Finally a Fire Emblem character that is different and not swords. I liked Lucina, so I'm glad she was added to fray over Chrom.

There is still yet hope Shulk.

Evan_BJuly 14, 2014

Wow. I can 't be the only one underwhelmed with this trailer, right? I mean, Robin isn't very offensive because of the durability aspect and actually using magic, but Lucina was completely unnecessary in addition to that. She may be one of my favorite characters from Awakening but she looks terribly clone-like and that doesn't justify a spot for her at all, in my opinion.

Maybe it's because I was hoping for Shulk, but I am very underwhelmed. Out of all the newcomers, I haven't seen one I'm dying to play as. I don't think that two Awakening characters deserved entry into Smash- there are plenty of other characters from the series that could have taken a spot.

AdrockJuly 14, 2014

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Lucina was completely unnecessary in addition to that. She may be one of my favorite characters from Awakening but she looks terribly clone-like and that doesn't justify a spot for her at all, in my opinion.

Lucina might be a Marth alt. In that case, she totally deserves to be in the game.

Fire Emblem newcomers seem to be from whatever the latest game is. Roy in Melee, but he got the boot because Marth is the series' most well known and reoccurring character. Ike was Path of Radiance's main character and Robin is the player character in Awakening. I haven't played Awakening, but my understanding is Lucina pretends to be Marth. The choices all make sense.

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I am very underwhelmed. Out of all the newcomers, I haven't seen one I'm dying to play as.

Oh, we have another one.

A few brief thoughts:
1) Glad to see they haven't buried Captian Falcon completely.

2) I don't mind the new Fire Emblem character announcements, but I feel like two new ones are a bit overkill when there are already 2 other ones, all which use swords.  Granted, Robin at least has magic as well, so I'm curious to read more.  How many characters do people think are going to be in the final version?  It seems like we should be hitting the upper-limit soon...

3) At least it wasn't Ridley.  I clearly don't understand why this character is requested so much in Smash, as I can't see how they'd make him playable in a way that's fun.  I'd be willing to hear an argument otherwise, though.

EnnerJuly 14, 2014

Lucina! Robin! Captain Falcon! I'm happy and excited.


Then again, all the newcomers have been pleasing for me so I can't understand disappointment for them. Granted, I do have characters that I would want in Smash 4, but I like all the newcomers so far.

PlugabugzJuly 14, 2014

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*continues waiting* for Ray. Or at the very minimum, some mention to the Disaster universe.

There need to be two Rays: the one from Disaster: Day of Crisis and one from Custom Robo. Or if Sakurai really wanted to troll, make those both different costumes of the same character.

With floating exploding bears that unleash tornadoes?

StratosJuly 14, 2014

Ridley could do just fine as a Charizard clone. Don't see why people think he could not fit in the game. It's Smash. Anything can be forced into the world with a little creativity.

TheBigKJuly 14, 2014

I love Fire Emblem, so today is indeed my lucky day.

Spak-SpangJuly 14, 2014

Stratos:  I think your Ridley Idea is the best yet.  Give Ridley a few different normal moves and make one or two changes to the special moves and you have a great Clone character.



Pixelated PixiesJuly 14, 2014

I'm conflicted.

First, It's great to see more females represented in Smash. As someone who chose to play as a female in FE: Awakening, I'm particularly happy to see the inclusion of female 'Robin'.

While I've only played 3 of the Fire Emblem games, I now consider myself a fan of the series, and am happy that it's getting represented.

On the other hand, I really don't need this much Fire Emblem in Smash. I always thought the FE characters in Smash were too similar and, honestly, a little boring. So the thought of having Ike, Marth, Chrom, and Lucina, all sword-wielders, seems like overkill. At least 'Robin' seems to be bringing something Unique with his/her Tomes.

It's a bummer, because Fire Emblem's characters are actually pretty diverse. I'd have loved to see a Cavalry character on horseback like Frederick, an archer like Virion, or a Axe-wielder like Reyn...I mean Vaike. Or better yet, throw a shape-shifting rabbit in there.

Bman87301July 14, 2014

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It is kinda funny that Chrom ended up the odd man out here and as a result this... kinda breaks the Gematsu leak, which from what I'm guessing is probably an insider who ended up getting relieved of this position over at Bandai Namco VERY early on in the game's development and that his information is outdated. 

That's what I was thinking too when I was under the false impression the leaked info all came from a single report over a year ago. But I've since learned that's not the case-- these were multiple reports coming out over time. The one reporting Chrom, Shulk, and Chorus Men was the most recent... and it's no coincidence that Chrom was teased at the beginning of the video. Sakurai KNEW we'd be expecting Chrom because they've apparently identified the leaker and purposely fed them false information this time around. So, the info isn't likely out of date, it was a hoax. Don't expect Shulk or Chorus Men either.

Bman87301July 14, 2014

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On the other hand, I really don't need this much Fire Emblem in Smash. I always thought the FE characters in Smash were too similar and, honestly, a little boring. So the thought of having Ike, Marth, Chrom, and Lucina, all sword-wielders, seems like overkill. At least 'Robin' seems to be bringing something Unique with his/her Tomes.

I have good news for you then... You misinterpreted the video, Chrom was merely a tease meant to make us think he going to be the reveal, allowing them to catch us off guard with the real newcomers. The end demonstrated, that Chrom will merely be an assist trophy (or possibly a Final Smash). You now have one less sword-wielder to worry about.

Pixelated PixiesJuly 14, 2014

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...Chrom will merely be an assist trophy (or possibly a Final Smash). You now have one less sword-wielder to worry about.

Ah, ok. Fair enough.

I still maintain, however, that FE has a deep catalogue of characters to pull from. For instance, I was kind of hoping that Donnel would be included. In Awakening, I spent so much time keeping that guy alive just because I liked his down-to-earth perspective, and eventually he became one of my strongest characters.

Man, I really need to play Awakening again. That game was incredible.

On a related note...what the hell happened to the 3DS? I haven't enjoyed a 3DS game since ALBW.

Fire Emblem has more possible playable characters than any Nintendo series outside of Pokemon.

Re: *redacted boss from Metroid*
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This is what happened to the last person who brought it up

So...after wAtching the reveal video again, it seems like Robin's spell book moves very closely resemble Ness' moveset...anyone think it's possible ness is going bye bye?  Or maybe is he replacing Lucas' slot?

AdrockJuly 14, 2014

Ness isn't going anywhere. If Lucina is Marth's alt, Lucas would be an obvious alt for Ness. I kind of hope we get Paula and Kumatora (both of whom actually learn PK Fire in Earthbound and Mother 3 respectively).

SonofMrPeanutJuly 14, 2014

Pixelated Pixies brought up my exact point!  Thanks.  If as a Nintendo entity Smash Bros is responsible for representing the wide array of franchises to new players, how come there are no axe or lance wielders in the Fire Emblem roster?


Now I do love the diversity they have in the sword-wielders.  Ike's big sword doesn't handle like Marth's thinner, more agile sword, and though Robin also has a sword he casts spells.  This said, the weapons triad is a HUGE part of Fire Emblem's DNA.  I wouldn't expect Smash to actually implement that rock-paper-scissors system of effectiveness, but their place in the game would be incredibly beneficial.

Unless the "newcomer" label for Lucina turns out to be a fluke and she actually ends up as a Marth skin, she'll simply be that one sword too many that could have been an axe or a lance.  I do have to wonder what kind of recovery a lancer would have, considering they primarily ride horseback.  Maybe they'd be horseless for this.

StratosJuly 15, 2014

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I do have to wonder what kind of recovery a lancer would have, considering they primarily ride horseback.  Maybe they'd be horseless for this.

Nephenee and Ephraim (pre-Great Lord) say high. Along with all of the game's General-class characters. Watch some videos to get an idea of how an on foot lance wielder could work.


I am in the lance-loving camp. Getting the Tactician character is a nice plus, and one I suspected they would use, but I do hope be get some more alternate weapon characters at some point.

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*continues waiting* for Ray. Or at the very minimum, some mention to the Disaster universe.

There need to be two Rays: the one from Disaster: Day of Crisis and one from Custom Robo. Or if Sakurai really wanted to troll, make those both different costumes of the same character.

With floating exploding bears that unleash tornadoes?

The bear and tornado can be assist trophies.

Luigi DudeJuly 15, 2014

Well Sakurai just revealed on Miiverse that Lucina is not an alt for Marth but an actual selectable character.  It turns out she's a Melee style clone who shares the same animations and every attack, but each attack has different strengths since her sword shares the same power throughout instead of Marth who has his strongest attacks at the tip.

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Pic of the day. Along with Robin, Lucina joins the battle!! Her physical ablilites are identical to Marth's--it must be in her D.N.A. However, where Marth's power is concentrated in the tip of the sword, Lucina's attack strength is balanced throughout the weapon, which might make her easier to control. She's also a little bit shorter than Marth.

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With the Wii Fit Trainers, the male and female Robins, the Villagers, and Little Mac, varying their appearances and voices works just like selecting alternate color variations. However, whenever there is even a small difference in abilities, that character gets an actual roster slot. That is why you can select Lucina individually.

Of course the way he says the last one pretty much makes it sound like several other clones like this are in as well.  Looks like we're about to get a pretty damn big character select screen this time.  If Fire Emblem is getting 4 characters on the select screen, then quite a few other franchises are going to get their roster bumped up thanks to clones as well.

Holy shit, we could literally be looking at a Marvel vs Capcom 2 sized roster if Sakurai goes crazy with these clones, which he easily could since ones like Lucina are very easy to make.

Triforce HermitJuly 15, 2014

So Mewtwo and Lucario could both be in this? If so, that is absolutely capital.

nickmitchJuly 15, 2014

If there is going to be a significant number of clones included this time around, then Lucas should be safe.

Maybe Dr. Mario comes back as more than an alt.

Mop it upJuly 15, 2014

Four Fire Emblem characters feels like too many, but at least one of them seems more unique.

nickmitchJuly 15, 2014

But they come is all sizes!
Lucina: Small
Marth: Medium
Ike: Large
Special Edition: Robin

the asylumJuly 15, 2014

At least we know for sure now that Nintendo hasn't completely forgotten about F-Zero. That's a good sign at least, right?

KhushrenadaJuly 15, 2014

I really like the look of Captain Falcon in that video. I also like how Captain Falcon has no qualms at punching a girl.

nickmitchJuly 15, 2014

It's just this little thing called EQUALITY.

CericJuly 15, 2014

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It's just this little thing called EQUALITY.

Its only Non-Discrimination when you don't discriminate.

KhushrenadaJuly 15, 2014

See, that's what I told the judge in my case as well but apparently the law calls it domestic violence and the court acts as if it is some sort of crime. I still think that if my brother and I can throw punches at each other if we get in a fight and still get along, it should only be right I can throw punches at my mom when we fight and still get along. Women only want to play the equality game when they can see some benefit not if it puts them at a disadvantage. The more you know.

nickmitchJuly 16, 2014

This got pretty sexist, and I apologize for my involvement in it.

SundoulosJuly 16, 2014

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At least we know for sure now that Nintendo hasn't completely forgotten about F-Zero. That's a good sign at least, right?

I heard on GameXplain that supposedly Sakurai posted a message on Miiverse that said:  "And welcome back, Captain Falcon.  When are you ever getting a new game of your own?" 

Trolling both Nintendo and the F-Zero fan base in one post; Sakurai is a true master.

CaterkillerMatthew Osborne, Contributing WriterJuly 17, 2014

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3) At least it wasn't Ridley.  I clearly don't understand why this character is requested so much in Smash, as I can't see how they'd make him playable in a way that's fun.  I'd be willing to hear an argument otherwise, though.

"At least it wasn't Ridley" ? AT LEAST IT WASN'T RIDLEY?!?!?!?!?!

Ridley would be an awesome addition! The character who basically made Samus who she is and the only important reoccuring character  from the franchise! Last gen he had a big role in Prime 3, Other M and even in Smash Bros it's self. Did you see how prominently he was featured in the Other M commercial? Ridley has lots of mind share in the minds of Metroid fans. He may not be silly like Bowser or Dedede and he's certainly not as charming as Ganondorf or Hades but he's still a brilliant, robot building, pirate dragon in space! What is not to like?

Fire Emblem gets its best selling entry yet and now it gets 4 reps which is just fine by me. Lucina doesn't even take that much resources. Fire Emblems biggest success sales wise is basically Metroids lowest point with Other M so I think Metroid deserves one more with that one being Ridley.

Ridley has been many sizes before. Metroid, Super Metroid, Zero Mission, Prime, Other M, Melee, Brawl... Ridley has never been the same size. Sometimes he is completely manageable and sometimes not. Metroid, Melee, Other M commercial and even super Metroid  all have reasonable size Ridleys for playability. Even if he was always big characters always change size depending on gameplay necessity. Do you know how small Olimar, Pikachu and Squirtle really are? They are massive comparitively to other fighters in Smash and it just doesn't matter. It's ok to fight on a teenie tiny great fox or have Ganondorf as small as a childs playing blocks but its weird for Ridley to be about the size of Bowser in Smash? Yeah ok. I guess people who don't want Ridley were pissed they shrunk Honey Queen for Mario Kart 7.

Ridley has a tail that can stretch but if you look at the ripped models from Brawl, Ridleys tail is surprisingly short. Don't give it a long hurt box and he is good to go. But his wings are too big you say? Charizards wings in Brawl are bigger than any pair of wings Ridley has had in the 2D metroids. Look back at how small those things are! Give something that is Bowser's size or a little bigger with Charizard's wings and hurt box mechanics and you have absolutely no issue.

Oh but his neck! What ever what Sakurai's team do?! Keep it folded up like it always is only extending to bite or give him the think Other m/Prime 3 neck. Why is that so hard?!

Give him Bowser's hunched posture! He almost never stands up right to begin with so he can be big in Smash. Give him Charizard's wings and tail. Give him Donkey Kong's long arms and make him run on his hands and feet like he did in ALL the 3D Metroids! There you have it, a good body conceptualized by yours truly!

Moveset. Look at all the moves he did in Brawl? He fought just like Dyna Blade! Which makes sense considering what they are. Bowser is much less animalistic now so Ridley can fill that void. Now then, don't like those moves well then like these:

Jabs - Claw swipe X2, tail stab.
Forward Tilt - Bite.
Up Tilt - Wing attack/upward tail stab.
Down Tilt - Tail Sweep

Dash - Rushing pounce like a Xenomorph.

D Air - Pogo tail(remember that from Super Metroid)

F Smash - Tail drill.
U Smash - Jumping bite.

Specials would include fire balls, a grappling tail that could yank others out of the sky and super fast and far reaching dashes across the screen, think Ike.

Imagine his grabs? D Grab - shuttle loop and grind them against ground. Oh and mid air grabs like Bowser. It would be spectacular!

Give him 3 jumps and flying mechanic like Peach and woah you've got something good!

His physical body alone gives so much to work with, why wouldn't anyone want that? Or at the very least why hope against it?

There is some real and deliberate teasing going on with Ridley. Sad thing is I am almost certain its only for a special Wii U only playable boss mode. 1 VS 4.

Now come on, who else shares in my enthusiasm for the true Space Pirate leader?!


nickmitchJuly 17, 2014

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At least we know for sure now that Nintendo hasn't completely forgotten about F-Zero. That's a good sign at least, right?

I heard on GameXplain that supposedly Sakurai posted a message on Miiverse that said:  "And welcome back, Captain Falcon.  When are you ever getting a new game of your own?" 

Trolling both Nintendo and the F-Zero fan base in one post; Sakurai is a true master.

It's True. He posted that.

SarailJuly 18, 2014

I'm with you, Cater. Believe it, I want Ridley playable in Smash 4, too. There's no valid excuse whatsoever as to why he shouldn't make it in the game as playable.

Ridley deserves a character spot on the roster just as much as Bowser, Ganondorf, and King Dedede do.

pokepal148Spencer Johnson, Contributing WriterJuly 18, 2014

I owas expecting sakurai to reveal ganondorf first just to troll the f-zero fanbase.

nickmitchJuly 18, 2014

I don't get the desperate wanting of Ridley in Smash, but I don't hate the idea either.  Lotta strong feelings on both sides of that argument.

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