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NWR Community Hot Topic

by Steven Rodriguez - November 6, 2007, 9:15 am EST

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When asked if competition from Nintendo's first party efforts scared off major third party titles Shigeru Miyamoto replied, "I think that when it comes to the question of trying to compete with our software, I would really like to see the parties try to do that with their number one teams rather than with the third- or fourth-string teams."

Similarly, following Nintendo's recent finical briefing, Miyamoto also stated "we should not be telling these third party developers what they should do in terms of the game content per se, we are offering advice and cooperation in order to produce software which is accessible to users with the least possible stress." The cited examples were Flash Focus, a product of Nintendo and Namco Bandai's joint efforts, and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games.

What role does Nintendo need third parties to play in the Wii's future? Do you think that the fault for low hype falls on the publisher, or on Nintendo? Is there enough to go around? Should Nintendo do more to hype great games that fall under the radar, for the good of the platform? What should they do? Click here to go to the Hot Topic thread and tell us what you think!

Make a great reply and you'll be entered to win a great prize. This week? More E For All Swag! We've got boxes and boxes of it, and we want to give it away to you, dear reader! All you need to do is post a reply to our Hot Topic question! It's that easy!

Last week we talked about E for All, and its role in the gaming industry. Kudos to Nintendog128 who won himself some swag from E for All. Here are some of your replies!


GoldenPhoenix wrote: What I

like about E for All is that was something for the consumer. The

big problem with E3 was that it was limited to those involved in the

gaming industry (and those that snuck in). Something like E for

All could have potential to grow because it appears people really

enjoyed it. Nintendo has already established a footing there so

they may have an interest in doing it again. I think E3, on the other

hand, is going to fade away because the reception [to the new format]

was less than positive last time. If there are any BIG

announcements in the future I think they will either be spread out over

the shows, with more company conferences.


Adrock wrote: E for All was certainly not the replacement for E3

many

were expecting. Maybe it's just too late in the year. We

all know what's coming out so E for All was basically just a chance for

people to get their hands on near-complete versions of these games. E3

was always great for all the new games, interviews and

announcements. Nintendo, for example, still used E3 for their big

announcements like Wii Fit + Balance board and Mario Kart with

online. Nothing unbelievable was announced at E for All.

Using Nintendo again as an example, they just had demos and it was

basically the same thing they had at their own press event in Japan

like the week before. I don't think we'll ever see anything quite like

old, pre-2007 E3 again though I still see E3 being the event for new

games and hardware. Personally, I think it [E3] should still be

held in May while E for All should be held in August. As it is, E

for All is too close to the holiday season.


Mr. Jack wrote: As it stands right now, I think the whole video

game

expo lineup is just a mess. There are simply too many going on and as a

result no point to any of them. The major companies don't drop

information like they used to at E3.

I'm not confident that the opinions of us gamers is going to turn

things back to the way we all want it to be, a huge crazy E3 every year

where the gaming gods drop their knowledge upon us. I expect most

of these events to continue the way they are and the companies involved

being very happy about that. All the major companies always said E3 was

a struggle every year, now with this format they aren't under constant

pressure, giving them no reason to return to the old way. Gamers,

on the other hand, will continue to be disappointed by these events

because they won't be getting the information they were expecting.

Maybe it was just me, but there was something magical about E3. I never

went, but just getting that deluge of gaming information over the

course of 3 days was just mind-blowing. None of these new expos,

including the new E3 have that. As an avid gamer it sucks and

really puts a damper on my year.


Dryden wrote: When I saw the E For All coverage, I was

disappointed. [Publishers at] E3 have the aim to win over the

press while getting hands-on feedback from people who will talk to the

designers. The press gets something, the developers get

something, and the PR hype machine gets a load of material. Meanwhile,

conventions like E For All benefit people in those same ways, but to a

much lesser extent - hands-on feedback exists, but the press coverage

is minimal. E3 is great for the industry, but E for All is merely a

perk. Of course they will have a place in the future, but Nintendo

especially will treat these events as just another stop on their mall

kiosk tours. Which is essentially what E for All wound up being. A

conglomeration of mall kiosks.


Patchkid15 wrote: Closed expos [like E3] have a chance to

change. These

public expos [like E for All, PAX] show the organizers of the closed

expos that we, the general public also want to come out and try our

hand at the latest games. As for more of expos in the future, of course

there will be more. The success of the latest expos will mean

more will surely come. The developers will want to give they're

products a boost. No, these expos wont flame out, E for all

showed us that they have great success so surely there will be more.


Djunknown wrote: E 4 All's timing this year was

impeccable. A

good chunk of the titles playable will be out within the next 6 months,

leaving an imprint on the consumer's mind. Instead of exclusively

showing the product to the press and retailers, who in turn get the

hype machine going, good old of word mouth lives again. That

said, I'm doubtful for next year. By putting it next to PAX

(editor's note: they're going on at the same time), they're battling

for attendants, which means there will be an eventual loser. While I

didn't get lots of news per say, I got lots and lots of impressions

from NWR and various news sites. I used some of them in my

decision of what to buy in this glut of games that's already coming.


Nintendog128 wrote: I loved E for all, I love e3, comic-con, and

PAX. I

believe its just going to keep expanding. The gaming community just

keeps growing, but these are the big guns, the main events in gaming,

nothings topping them. Tokyo game show and individual company

conferences are just as important because you never what would be

announced.


Kairon wrote: I know that my Smash-loving roommate also came

back very

positive (and weighed down with all that extra schwag they had on

hand... 20+ of those wiimote light-up key chains! WOAH!), but elsewhere

the reception was cold for this event. I also heard that the event

organizer, IDG or something, was suing Sony and MS for not showing up

because contractually they were supposed to.


thatguy wrote: E for All.

Sucks. Just absolutely sucks. This is from the point of view from a

college student across the country with no time or money to go all the

way over to LA or wherever.

Alright, so first off, we've got the timing. Sure, it's closer to the

SUPER RELEASE of every game ever for the year, yeah, but it seriously

is at just a bad time. I mean, most gamers are relatively young and in

school, right? Is that a poor stereotype? I doubt it. Most of those

interested in attending really don't have the time at this point in

time. So what do we do? We read the news about what occurred, the

previews, the videos, and just about everything like that. Well, guess

what: By this time, it's all old news. We already know most of the info

released, so basically, we get to hear about how several people got to

go play games three weeks before they got released. That's about the

impact E for All had on me.

Then, there's the fact that the press got their hands on everything

before the event, or at least, everything big. So, for those of us low

on cash, time, or with other priorities, once again, we knew everything

really out there a week or two before hand. I'm just reiterating this.

Of course, TGS also happened first, so we knew a lot about those game

that were at both locations, too.

The showing itself was abysmal, with Nintendo and Konami being the big

supporters. That's about it, for who was there. No Sony, no Microsoft,

and very light everything else.

What do I want? I want E for All to create it's own identity, and live

up to anything, really. It just seems like they let people showcase

whatever, and didn't do much else besides that. If it's going to be "E

for All" why not cover all types of Entertainment/Electronics/Expos, or

whichever one of those E's the E stands for? It doesn't have to be

limited to video games. Why not take a unique family-friendly approach,

and make the event more like a learning museum, where one can

experience all types of video games, and get easy-access lessons of

games by trained teachers? Tune "casual" gamers into the rest of the

industry? Why not be unique, rather than a clone of a media event,

though open to everyone while at an inaccessible time? PAX did it, by

allowing visitors to play pretty much anything for a weekend against

pretty much anyone. E3 used to do it, shocking the world with

outstanding announcements every year. TGS did it by allowing the public

to play things the media just got their hands on, with theaters solely

for trailers that hadn't been seen before, and new game announcements.


Elsewhere, on our craaaazy show known as the NWR forums:

- Talkback:

href="http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=22818"

target="_blank">Create & Share Smash Bros. Levels

- Nintendo

Console Discussion:

href="http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=20161"

target="_blank">Zack & Wiki: Buy it! (If you can find it...)

- Funhouse:

href="http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=22793"

target="_blank">Official NWR Screen Name Thread

- General

Gaming:

href="http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=22821"

target="_blank">This really pissed me off


- General

Chat:

href="http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=18&threadid=22877"

target="_blank">Writers strike is on

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