Nice. I can actually play the occasional sports game with franchise mode finally.

Lets see, 64 MB would be how many blocks? Could I have an estimate? Around 10,000?

I think it is safe to assume nobody will need those 128 MB cards....Unless they set up cool kiosks with N64 games you could download onto your card...or even off of a nintendo server whenever they decide to kick into online gaming.

Never the need for buying more memory cards. I got a 251 when that came out and haven't needed a new one since. Now, I can move all my game datas to one card, leave it and forget it. And we sell SD cards at my work, time to catch the employee discount (10%).

How many blocks would it be? Or inversely, how many MBs are in the 251 Memory Card?

The thing is...the GCN only has a limited number of actual save game slots. Unless the adapter has some sort of small built in thing that allows for unlimited slots via scrolling down at the memory card menu.

Although I'd like to be able to download SNES and/or N64 or even old Sega games-o-plenty on the SD adaptor. Maybe pay some money for old 16bit ports? Or download anything you've found in Animal Crossing and play it from any GCN? A 128 mb card could hold both Resident Evil 2 AND Turok 2, the two largest N64 games. It could hold Ocarina of Time 4 times. Imagine playing Streets of Rage 2 or Turtles in Time or Super Metroid on your GCN!
*squeals like a girl*
D'oh....but then again it won't happen...

Mem. Card 251 holds about 17.01 megabits, or about 2.125 megabytes. Not much at all.

FINALLY

I hope Datel postpones the GCN X-Port to include support for this nifty device.

See? Now THIS is the kind of internet access I want out of my console.

Man. Imagine if this had come out a few months ago. I could have dozens of photos saved in Zelda:WW instead of being limited to three at a time!

Yeah, that stunk, there were a few pictographs I wish I could've saved. Melee pulled it off quite easily, and Wind Waker's photos seem even smaller, so it's a shame they didn't work something out for that.

But I have to admit, I'm impressed. I was interested by this when it was first announced, but it was practically guaranteed vaporware as the GCN launch came and went, and months passed... I'm glad Nintendo has decided to push the idea, though.

It's a shame Animal Crossing e+ refuses to handle the e-mailing of the save data and photos itself, though, but at least that's some, very limited online functionality.

Finally is right! I hope it's compatible with all games. I have some small SD Cards that aren't getting any use. Please release this in the US!

Well if you just use it as a memory card you should be able to, but its unknown since the question is does the adapter have the conversion tools need to save the files in SD format (It has encryption protection much like the PS2's.)

But since the first software to use it is Animal Crossing 2 and you have to use a PC to send the files, I doubt it. The software is going to have to have the encryption.

You know what would be fun if equipted with the function you could get game screens onto the net easier to brag. And some companies may have contests for high scores, etc.

Ahhhh edit button does not work...... and more ideas keep coming.

Not to mention saved files that you can dl from other users, and more maps form other users such as from games like Time Spilters, and offical ones. Side mission for RPGs basically most anything that the Xbox's HD can be used for.

EXACTLY. I was thinking the same thing. Downloadable additional content for games. More levels. More Guns. More Maps. It might not happen from Nintendo, but I can't see why Free Radical and other developers wouldn't eat this right up.

"Imagine playing Streets of Rage 2 or Turtles in Time or Super Metroid on your GCN!"

Wouldn't that be pretty much the same as playing those games on the SNES or Genesis? Wow I'm playing Super Metroid on TV!...like I always do! Still the idea of being able to download 16-bit games would be pretty cool, particularly for obscure titles that are hard to find. Of course with GBA porst selling so hot they probably won't do that. Odds are the best we would get would be e-Reader like stuff like Donkey Kong and Mario Bros which as they were on the NES are too basic to sell as a GBA game.

I'm pretty happy to see that the SD Adapter is still being released. The possibility of emailing game saves is really cool so when I go to my friends house I don't have to bring my memory card to play Smash Bros with everything unlocked (which naturally pisses off my brother as he can't play something like Zelda if I take the memory card with me).

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But since the first software to use it is Animal Crossing 2 and you have to use a PC to send the files, I doubt it. The software is going to have to have the encryption.

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It doesn't say that you need your PC to email the files. I'm hoping that you can send an e-mail from within the game.

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Players will be able e-mail game data and photos taken in the game through a PC.

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Well if you just use it as a memory card you should be able to, but its unknown since the question is does the adapter have the conversion tools need to save the files in SD format (It has encryption protection much like the PS2's.)

But since the first software to use it is Animal Crossing 2 and you have to use a PC to send the files, I doubt it. The software is going to have to have the encryption.

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I never said it was revolutionary, I just pointed out some of the possiblities that it opens up.

And about the mail server it isn't anything cheep to set up a mail server you have to have the space to store all the emails while they wait to be dl'ed from the server and even with a restricted storage usage we are talking about a lot of space for potenially millions of users, not to mention the bandwidth, servers and technical support.

And so what if Nintendo is taking the cheep way to transmitt the save data now at least you don't have to go with out a memory card to let your friend use you Animal Crossing save and its cheeper than driving around to their houses.


And it seems that I have became the whiping boy for this thread.

The thing with the SD cards is that a lot of newer computers have SD card ports now. I think that's what they meant by emailing Animal Crossing data. You get the info in an email, put it on youe SD card using your computer, then plug your SD card into your SD adaptor and load it up to the game. Pretty simple, reall.

Not to mention that the USB adapter for older computer is only $20.00 or less. I hope they come out with some more information on this during E3, explaining how it will work.

Here's some "frame of reference" stuff.

The PSX Memory Card was supposed to hold 1/8 of a megabyte (or one megabit, if you prefer). It had 15 "blocks".

Nintendo's MC-59 is supposed to be 1/2 of a megabyte (four times the size of a PSX card).

Nintendo's MC-251 is supposed to be 2 megabytes (four times the size of an MC-59).

A standard PS2 memory card is 8 megabytes (last I checked). I don't know if it has any sort of "block" system.

PSX blocks are about the same size as the GameCube's blocks. In case you noticed that the math looks wrong on that (15 isn't 1/4 of 59, and 59 isn't 1/4 of 251), it's supposed to be because of some index or formatting data hogging up space on the card. The PSX card most likely has 1 block of info on it (which would make it essentially a 16-block card). The GameCube cards seem to have 5 blocks of something on them (making them actually 64 and 256 blocks, respectively).

The GameCube is supposed to have a limit that says you can only fit 127 different game save files (it has to have an option for "zero" games saved, otherwise it'd be 128), regardless of their size, on any given memory card.

I would guess that a 16 megabyte SD card (like the one shown by Nintendo in the picture) should be about the equvalent of a "MC-2,043". That's assuming 128 blocks-per-megabyte, times 16 megabytes, minus five blocks like the other cards.

A 32MB SD card should be like having an "MC-4,091".

The 64MB card should be like an "MC-8,187".

The 128MB ones would be like "MC-16,384".

You could potentially hit the size barrier on the 128MB SD card before you hit the "number of saves" limit if your average game save was about 128 blocks.

you're going to luagh...but....what's an SDcard?....is it the same card I use for my digital camera? and if so,would I be able to use that instead of buying a nintendo one? and how would it even hook up to a pc? through the digital camera?

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Not to mention saved files that you can dl from other users, and more maps form other users such as from games like Time Spilters, and offical ones. Side mission for RPGs basically most anything that the Xbox's HD can be used for.

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Hell, if money is the reason Nintendo doesn't like demo-discs, they could even charge people a nominal fee for the download. I'd pay up to $1 for a playable demo--nothing for a vid, though. (Only $1 because it doesn't come in a permanent format; you'd have to erase it, or move it to your pc's harddrive eventually.)

Is Nintendo giving out demo discs soon? Can't remember if they're free or if they only come with new consoles..

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Even so, downloadable demos would solve the problem of stores running out of copies to give out. I don't know how many megabytes demos would take up, but if entire N64 games are less than 64mb, then surely a short one-level demo for GCN can fit onto a 128mb card. And if they can't, there's always the 1GB SD cards.

A fanboy can dream, can't he?

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you're going to luagh...but....what's an SDcard?....is it the same card I use for my digital camera? and if so,would I be able to use that instead of buying a nintendo one? and how would it even hook up to a pc? through the digital camera?

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Nitnendo doens't make the SD cards. Its they reiceved the promission to use the technology under the same agreement they recieved their I/O system and GODs from. So maybe Nintendo will offer some cheep 8/16 MB cards that they bought from Panasonic because it will be the surplus they usally end up burrying, so maybe Nintendo can nab them for pennies on the dollar, to give those who don't have an SD card for another use (Digital Camera, MP3 player.) a chance to use them cheep, or maybe package them in a game. For example Animal Crossing 2 will be the first game to fully use the technology, so they could package it in much like they packaged in a Digicard 59 in with the first on.


The editing problem stemed from the last version of this board. Now they are on version 4 so it now has that bug mostly worked out.

I have a question. Are SD cards and MultiMedia cards the samething or what?

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And about the mail server it isn't anything cheep to set up a mail server you have to have the space to store all the emails while they wait to be dl'ed from the server and even with a restricted storage usage we are talking about a lot of space for potenially millions of users, not to mention the bandwidth, servers and technical support.

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Unfortunately, yes it does. It would make a lot more sense to use the GCN's own online capabilities, I'd think, and just being able to access and send e-mail is much, much different from anything like Online Play. There doesn't have to be a single server set up to handle it, unless a dedicated Nintendo server will be handling the mailing.

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And about the mail server it isn't anything cheep to set up a mail server you have to have the space to store all the emails while they wait to be dl'ed from the server and even with a restricted storage usage we are talking about a lot of space for potenially millions of users, not to mention the bandwidth, servers and technical support.

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I have a question. Are SD cards and MultiMedia cards the samething or what?

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damn saturn netlink a 14k modem and sega charged like 299 for it....wtf