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Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year

by Donald Theriault - November 30, 2015, 10:51 am PST
Total comments: 34 Source: DigiTimes

Reminder: That's shipped to suppliers, not consumers.

Some members of the supply chain may have begun floating shipment numbers for new Nintendo hardware to release in 2016.

According to the Taiwanese newspaper DigiTimes, the new system would enter production at the end of the 1st quarter of 2016 - whether fiscal (April - June) or calendar (January - March) is not specified - and would ship between 10 and 12 million units in the first year.

The sources also indicated that Chinese manufacturer Foxconn, most famous for developing the iPhone, has been tapped to manufacture the device but the company is not commenting. There is also no indication as to what form factor the products would take.

Talkback

michaelbaysuperfan616November 30, 2015

Begin manufacturing in summer, could mean an early Fall launch which would be great. I am putting NX and Xbox One both into wait and see mode. I want an Xbox One now, but if Nintendo announces some cool things with NX I might have to wait until next year before I invest in another console.

If they are planning on trying to sell that many consoles, even to retailers, in that timespan they really better have something cool up their sleeves.

StratosNovember 30, 2015

Are we sure this isn't a handheld device or even a refresh of a current 3DS or Wii U design?


Despite how much it would benefit them to release this year I still think the 'main' console will get pushed to 2017. Maybe get the handheld side launched 2016 and the console portion in 2017.

michaelbaysuperfan616November 30, 2015

They just launched a new handheld last year, there is no way they replace that so soon. They Wii U is dead, they need to sweep it under the rug and this timeline makes good sense, it will be just right to get in on the current gen without taking too much away from PS4 and Xbox One since there are still millions of users sticking to last gen, which many consider Wii U to be anyways.


There is nothing discounting this from being a true dedicated "gaming tablet" either, which might be why 3rd parties were so excited for it, a gaming tablet with Nintendo's expertise and it is scaleable that would excite most companies.

But there is still nothing saying this is a console or a handheld either way. It's all speculation at this point.

broodwarsNovember 30, 2015

If this rumor is true, then Nintendo actually thinks they can sell as many NXs as there are Wii U owners worldwide in their 1st year. I find that unlikely, but at least it shouldn't be hard to find an NX at launch. After all...THERE ARE 12 MILLION OF THEM!  :P:

Ian SaneNovember 30, 2015

Quote from: broodwars

If this rumor is true, then Nintendo actually thinks they can sell as many NXs as there are Wii U owners worldwide in their 1st year. I find that unlikely, but at least it shouldn't be hard to find an NX at launch. After all...THERE ARE 12 MILLION OF THEM!  :P:

Didn't Atari manufacture more copies of Pac-Man than they sold console, making the very optimistic assumption that not only would every 2600 owner buy the game but that it would also sell systems?  This figure sounds a little too similar to that.

The Wii U successor being a 2016 is like the worst kept secret in gaming so I'm not surprised a rumour like this would surface.  I see replacing the Wii U in 2016 as a requirement.  They would be seriously nuts to consider waiting another year.

SorenNovember 30, 2015

If the rumor is true and we're talking about the handheld version running NX, then 10-12 million seems fine for a first run.

SorenNovember 30, 2015

But of course, ya'll more interested in turning this into a "bash Wii U" thread.

Nile Boogie ReturnsNovember 30, 2015

This, if true is absolutely a handheld of some sort. Nintendo H.DS (powered by NX)




I don't know anymore.

AdrockNovember 30, 2015

10 to 12 million units isn't that crazy if Nintenso releases two separate products under the NX umbrella. Six to seven million handhelds, four to five million consoles. Also, if Nintendo launches before November, shipping that many units wouldn't be that strange.

RidleySariaDecember 01, 2015

Quote from: Soren

But of course, ya'll more interested in turning this into a "bash Wii U" thread.

What? You're being a little defensive. I think it's pretty clear that Wii U is doing badly and speculation of NX being its successor is entirely reasonable. I don't see anyone turning this into a Wii U bashing party.


Speculation about a Wii U successor =/= bashing the Wii U console.


Hmm..... Wii U Bashing Party sounds like a fun party game though!

michaelbaysuperfan616December 01, 2015

I love the Wii U to death but to pretend it still has real life in it is completely delusional.

NX has potential to unite the fanbase, a single machine that is both a console and a handheld that will sell millions. If it gets the same support as the handheld's currently it will be vastly better than the consoles have been in years, so yeah it is reasonable to assume people will be hyped for this thing, if they deliver on the promises and wild speculation we have blown out of proportion in our minds. I mean there is a new Star Wars movie launching in a few short weeks, some of use are just in ultra hype mode for that and anything else is going to get spill over from that.

SorenDecember 01, 2015

Quote from: michaelbaysuperfan616

NX has potential to unite the fanbase, a single machine that is both a console and a handheld that will sell millions.

That's not what it is, though.

michaelbaysuperfan616December 01, 2015

How do you know? I thought it was supposed to be a single device or a single operating system that works on both devices, those are the two prevailing theories. Beyond that nobody knows for sure hence why I said it "has potential" if that is what it is. Right now we don't know that it isn't that either. Nobody does so you can't be so sure of yourself either.

AdrockDecember 01, 2015

Nintendo has said on a few occasions that it isn't interested in a hybrid system.

broodwarsDecember 01, 2015

Quote from: Adrock

Nintendo has said on a few occasions that it isn't interested in a hybrid system.

It wouldn't be the first time Nintendo has adamantly denied the existence of new hardware, only to turn around the next day and announce that very hardware.

StratosDecember 01, 2015

What about Quality of Life hardware?


I just got a gen 1 Microsoft Band (their FitBit/smart watch) and I keep feeling that these are along the lines of what Nintendo had going for QoL. Imagine a blending of the Poke Walker and the lost Vitality Sensor as a sort of smart watch synced to your 3DS/WiiU/NX.

broodwarsDecember 01, 2015

Quote from: Stratos

What about Quality of Life hardware?


I just got a gen 1 Microsoft Band (their FitBit/smart watch) and I keep feeling that these are along the lines of what Nintendo had going for QoL. Imagine a blending of the Poke Walker and the lost Vitality Sensor as a sort of smart watch synced to your 3DS/WiiU/NX.

I doubt this is Quality of Life. If it was, they wouldn't have announced this when they announced the mobile deal with DeNA to qualm fears of Nintendo going mobile-only.

AdrockDecember 01, 2015

Quote from: broodwars

Quote from: Adrock

Nintendo has said on a few occasions that it isn't interested in a hybrid system.

It wouldn't be the first time Nintendo has adamantly denied the existence of new hardware, only to turn around the next day and announce that very hardware.

Those denials typically come from a public relations rep almost immediately after leaks from reputable sources. This isn't the same kind of situation. Iwata is on record stating that Nintendo isn't interested in a hybrid. Makes sense too. As has been said many times before: Nintendo wants to sell a console and a handheld.

Evan_BDecember 01, 2015

Nintendo is going to sell a hybrid system, they're just going to try to get away with two separate releases.

EnnerDecember 01, 2015

My poor #NX2017 flag....

Ian SaneDecember 02, 2015

Nintendo wants to have two systems because they figure they can sell you twice the games.  It's hard to support two platforms so they want to make one game for both platforms like with SSB on the 3DS/Wii U.  Of course such an idea will probably backfire because if the games are the same between both platforms there is less reason to own both platforms.  For example I don't have a real need for handheld gaming so if the same games were on both I would just buy the console.  For the idea to work they need cross-buy, but then that whole "sell everyone two games" plan falls aside so you might as well go hybrid.

Luigi DudeDecember 02, 2015

Quote from: Ian

Nintendo wants to have two systems because they figure they can sell you twice the games.  It's hard to support two platforms so they want to make one game for both platforms like with SSB on the 3DS/Wii U.  Of course such an idea will probably backfire because if the games are the same between both platforms there is less reason to own both platforms.

While that's true and what really hurt the Wii U, there's still a good number of hardcore fans who buy the handheld and home console versions.  Despite the Wii U's poor hardware sales, the big sellers like Mario and Smash Bros are still ending up with around 5 million or more in sales each on the system even if they're lower 3DS counterparts sell more. 

As long as they're making more money by selling handheld and home console versions of their biggest series, we're not going to get a true hybrid anytime soon.  That's one of the biggest reasons for Nintendo more then likely wanting a shared OS between the systems since it'll be a lot easier to reuse assets between the handheld and home console versions of their biggest titles so development will be cheaper and quicker.  This way even if the home console version of the NX sells similar to the Wii U, Nintendo will still be able to maximize profits thanks to lower dev cost for said games compared to their Wii U counterparts.

michaelbaysuperfan616December 02, 2015

Except quoting Iwata means squat, the man is worm food, his opinions are no longer valid. Also There have been ample evidence surfacing that they could be working on either a hybrid, or some other type of unified console. The Wii U was almost that anyways and it is the ONE thing Nintendo can do in this current market to regain true relevance.

broodwarsDecember 02, 2015

Quote from: michaelbaysuperfan616

Except quoting Iwata means squat, the man is worm food, his opinions are no longer valid. Also There have been ample evidence surfacing that they could be working on either a hybrid, or some other type of unified console. The Wii U was almost that anyways and it is the ONE thing Nintendo can do in this current market to regain true relevance.

Except that it takes years to develop new hardware. It's too late to change directions from what Iwata set in motion. Contracts have been signed. Orders have been made. NX can change on the software side, but the general concept has to have been locked by now.

MagicCow64December 02, 2015

Quote from: broodwars

Quote from: michaelbaysuperfan616

Except quoting Iwata means squat, the man is worm food, his opinions are no longer valid. Also There have been ample evidence surfacing that they could be working on either a hybrid, or some other type of unified console. The Wii U was almost that anyways and it is the ONE thing Nintendo can do in this current market to regain true relevance.

Except that it takes years to develop new hardware. It's too late to change directions from what Iwata set in motion. Contracts have been signed. Orders have been made. NX can change on the software side, but the general concept has to have been locked by now.

Not to mention that whatever the NX plans are they're going to be in deep sync with the mobile/account system that Iwata spent his last years hammering out.

Luigi DudeDecember 02, 2015

Quote from: michaelbaysuperfan616

Except quoting Iwata means squat, the man is worm food, his opinions are no longer valid. Also There have been ample evidence surfacing that they could be working on either a hybrid, or some other type of unified console. The Wii U was almost that anyways and it is the ONE thing Nintendo can do in this current market to regain true relevance.

The Board of Directors at Nintendo is mostly filled with many of Iwata's longtime friends who shared very similar opinions to him so everything Iwata said and believed is still very valid at the company.  Plus like broodwar and MagicCow64 already said, the hardware and plans for the system have already been approved and work with other outside tech partners have started long before he even died.  Even if the new president is against what the NX is which we have no evidence he is, he can't change it since it's already too far in development and even if he tried, the Board would more then likely overrule such a decision since they aren't allowing someone to destroy Iwata's final decisions, especially with his right and left hand, Miyamoto and Takeda still holding a lot of power on that board as well.

AdrockDecember 03, 2015

Kimishima is also on record stating that there won't be any changes to the basic strategy set up by Iwata. As others have stated, he can't push any major changes because Nintendo's short term course is set and he'd be outvoted anyway. Additionally, he was a stability hire. Nintendo wanted a president who would carry on Iwata's plans which were really the collective board of directors' plans. Isn't Kimishima only officially elected for one year? He may be kept on past that term. Point being, Nintendo wanted a steady hand to launch NX. It isn't making any drastic changes at the eleventh hour.

michaelbaysuperfan616December 03, 2015

corporate name dropping aside, nothing you said disproves that this could be a single machine in two form factors or two interconnected machines. There is nothing that suggests this is the same handheld-console format they have stuck with, the Wii U is indicative of the fact they are trying to tie their mobile and console divisions, is it so hard to imagine a Wii U  like console that lets the gamepad detach and be used as a mobile device? Or that they release two versions of the game but you only have to buy just one, I never said it had to be a TRUE hybrid, or whatever that even means, but that if it combines console and mobile gaming it will be huge, and EVERYTHING suggests that it does that, YOU guys are the ones throwing out the word hybrid as if that is the ONLY way to marry the two which it is not. This is GOING to be ONE thing, they have gone on record saying as such, we do not know if it will be JUST a console and handheld is sold in same package, if it is a tablet, or if it is something else or if its just cross-buy for every game we don't know YOU don't know I don't know nobody knows.



BUT it is most certainly NOT just a handheld launching this year whatever it is WILL replace Wii U that much is all but certain.

SorenDecember 03, 2015

Come on dude, NX will be the OS that will run both the next handheld and home console for Nintendo. Both the Wii U and 3DS will get their own unique successors. They'll just both be running the same NX operating system. It's not that complicated.

Ian SaneDecember 03, 2015

Nintendo will have one OS for two platforms and then they'll make largely the same games for both... which is the stupid mistake that all their handheld competitors have made that Nintendo very cleverly avoided this whole time.  So due to the redundancy one of the platforms will not sell to expectations.  Best case scenario - the handheld thrives in the East and the console in the West.  Unfortunately I can see the console flopping in the West as well as Nintendo has really destroyed consumer trust in their consoles and if the two platforms are virtually identical people might go with the more "proven" handheld.

Seriously the big complaint about the Vita is that so many of it's games are just PS3 games so why bother if you already have a PS3?  Being able to play on the go would be nice but that only works with cross-buy... and if Nintendo offers cross-buy then they lose the ability to sell you two games which is the whole reason you figure they're sticking to two platforms in the first place.  I get this nervous feeling that Nintendo has a naïve idea that they can keep selling two games and only have to make half the games with a common OS.  That's nuts.  People will buy both Mario Kart 7 on the 3DS and Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U but they're wouldn't be so enthusiastic if it was the same game on both.  The fact that the content is unique is the whole reason that Nintendo has been able to get their fans to support two platforms for so long.

They're probably looking at SSB4 as the blueprint but there are other factors in that game's success.  First of all the 3DS userbase is way bigger than the Wii U's so that played a part in the "inferior" version selling well.  In regards to people actually buying both games, they cleverly released the 3DS one first so that the "better" version would come later.  They were relying on the those that owned both platforms to not have the patience to wait for the Wii U version.  Nintendo's goal should be to not have such a difference in userbase size between the handheld and console and the "they can't wait for the console version" trick is only going to work for a little bit until everyone catches on.  Also that kills any evergreen sales for the handheld version as few would want it once the console version came out.

Evan_BDecember 03, 2015

Insensitive comments about Iwata aside, I think Nintendo is at a point right now where both its current products are losing momentum and they'll need a replacement. Having recently a singular division for console and handheld development, it makes sense that they're trying to make whatever comes next as integrated in both departments as possible. Like I said, I see it as a hybrid that will have a separate handheld and console release. Nintendo wants that, and they'll make sure that neither gets the "superior" moniker, though they'll likely run on the same OS and be optimized for sharing things in many ways.

YmeegodDecember 03, 2015

it sounds like the NX isn't going be another home console, Nintendo keeps saying it's something "new" so I'm still thinking it's going be VR enable. 

They do have holograms projects in the works but so far those seem a bit steep in pricing and they seem to only offer one color :().  Maybe another 10 years before we get an hologram projector in our living rooms.

michaelbaysuperfan616December 07, 2015

They just revealed a patent for a detachable computing device. You all can live in denial all you want NX is going to be unified machine, handheld and console, all signs point to that being the case. It makes sense they would have been so vehemently against it vocally they were trying to cover up their plans. makes sense to me, so whatever. Even if its not  full on hybrid they will be connected and whatever is coming next year is NOT going to be the handheld. That is all I am saying you can believe whatever you want.

SorenDecember 07, 2015

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/02/feature_the_weird_and_wonderful_world_of_nintendo_patents

Nintendo patents are not an accurate predictor of future hardware details.

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