Topic: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19

[joedick]

What is with everyone talking about the "mainstream gamer". Seriously, I can understand being upset if the console is too expensive for you now and you can't afford. But why are we worried about the 'mainstream gamer' and popular perception?

Look, Nintendo is a company that makes money. Lots of it. Billions of them. They are a profitable company, and will continue to be so, even with the wii. And as long as they continue to make money, they will keep making the games we love. Regardless of whether they are number one or number three.

[Jin-X]

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Originally posted by: Artimus
If the American one has a second controller as well as Sports it'll be better. If it's just sports that's crap.

QFT. If its only Wii Sports, then they are essentially forcing us to buy the game looking at the Japanese price.

[MaryJane]

damn you nintendo I stayed for such heartrending news now I have to wake up in 3 hours with a cloud over my head

[Jin-X]

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Originally posted by: Famicom
Japanese press release of the Wii launch in Japan.

A quick machine translator says that it'll include the console, controller, nunchaku attachment, AC adapter, AV cable, console stand, supporting plate (??), sensor bar, sensor bar stand, and two AA batteries. So the US one costs more when you add in the extra controller and Wii Sports we're (supposedly) getting.

We are hoping we get 2 controllers, nowhere on the NYT story does it say it comes with 2 controllers.

[Nick DiMola]

I had this release date pinned down as correct way back when. It is kind of on the 5 year anniversary of the Gamecube release. Nintendo likes to release consoles on Sundays so this year it fell on the 19th whereas in 2001 it fell on the 18th.

The sad part about my prediction on this date is that I was actually right. 1 week earlier, 2 weeks earlier would have been optimal, but the 19th! What a mistake you have just made Nintendo. I know they think they will step in in the wake of the disaster that is the PS3 and be the light at the end of the tunnel, but I don't think it is going to happen quite like that. As far as the price goes I have to agree with VGrevolution it better come with two wiimotes/nunchucks and the classic controller for $250.

Just when I thought Nintendo couldn't do anything to screw up a perfect hand, they find some way to drop the ball in the end. I hope it works for them. I can not echo enough my disappointment over this news.

[Jin-X]

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Originally posted by: joedick
What is with everyone talking about the "mainstream gamer". Seriously, I can understand being upset if the console is too expensive for you now and you can't afford. But why are we worried about the 'mainstream gamer' and popular perception?

Look, Nintendo is a company that makes money. Lots of it. Billions of them. They are a profitable company, and will continue to be so, even with the wii. And as long as they continue to make money, they will keep making the games we love. Regardless of whether they are number one or number three.

More ppl buy the Wii = more games get made for it, that's why ppl care. That and the fact that Nintendo keeps talking about how they're going after casuals and ppl that don't play games.

[Athrun Zala]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I like how everyone's acting like this is a big deal.

lol, same here

[Jin-X]

"2:09 a.m. EST [update 11]: Gemaga reports 3,800 yen cost for the remote, 1800 yen for the classic controller, and 1800 yen for the nunchuck attachment." - Joystiq

No way the nunchuck is sold separately.

[Hostile Creation]

Look, the Japanese price is about $212, converted to US dollars (so I'm told by Bill).  Meaning that we're paying $35 dollars for WiiSports.  Which is perfectly reasonable for a game they could be charging us fifty for.
I wouldn't expect an extra controller in there, as much as I'd like one.  That's giving us more than we're paying for, too much more.

[MaryJane]

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Originally posted by: Mr. Jack
Just when I thought Nintendo couldn't do anything to screw up a perfect hand, they find some way to drop the ball in the end. I hope it works for them. I can not echo enough my disappointment over this news.

Further explanation ofmy POSt.
things looked Perfect For Ninty now they look Slightly mediocre

[Strell]

Wii sports no longer a pack-in?

WTF IS GOING ON HERE

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I like how everyone's acting like this is a big deal.

For people on a budget, it IS a big deal, especially those who didn't want Wiisports and will have to pay extra for a pack in they didn't want.

[mantidor]

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Originally posted by: Strell
Wii sports no longer a pack-in?

WTF IS GOING ON HERE

confusion between the japanese and NA packages.

In other words, apparently we are getting the psp treatment with a pack-in while japan isn't.

 

[joedick]

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Originally posted by: Jin-X
"2:09 a.m. EST [update 11]: Gemaga reports 3,800 yen cost for the remote, 1800 yen for the classic controller, and 1800 yen for the nunchuck attachment." - Joystiq

No way the nunchuck is sold separately.

It's included in the box, of course they will sell extras, like they do any controller

[Artimus]

Hmmm, according to Japan WiiSports includes 5 games. The 5th is boxing.

The Japanese release appears to be different than ours, we get WiiSports as a packin.

I don't see how Nintendo can not include two Wiimotes if they include WiiSports. Just makes no sense. How are you supposed to play WiiSports if you only have one controller? At at $60 for another that's over $300 before you even buy any games. It must be including a second controller here. MUST.  

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I like how everyone's acting like this is a big deal.

For people on a budget, it IS a big deal, especially those who didn't want Wiisports and will have to pay extra for a pack in they didn't want.

Well I was talking to a friend of mine who was looking forward to Wii and was willing to spring for a 200$ console but the 250$ is pushing it too much. He would be the type of gamer that Nintendo said they wanted to get, and now appears to be one they have pushed away.

[Jin-X]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Look, the Japanese price is about $212, converted to US dollars (so I'm told by Bill).  Meaning that we're paying $35 dollars for WiiSports.  Which is perfectly reasonable for a game they could be charging us fifty for.
I wouldn't expect an extra controller in there, as much as I'd like one.  That's giving us more than we're paying for, too much more.

So like I said, they're really forcing us to buy Wii Sports instead of packing it in or bundling it. I would rather use that money for another game, so giving us 2 controllers is important.

You think its no big deal, but when you have the highest price for a Nintendo console ever when those were really high-tech (the tech mostly got moved from gfx to controller this time around) and forcing you to buy a game not everybody will want (unless it comes with 2 controllers) and then factor in the crazy VC prizes (I don't believe the $5 for a Nes game, that's crazy, maybe those prices are for NEW games sold through the VC) it's somewhat of a dissapointment.

[Svevan]

Don't assume the controller will cost $60 just because of the exchange rate and the strength it adds to your anti-Nintendo rant.

[GoldenPhoenix]

One thing I'm not surprised about is the 5-10$ (my guess is they will end up mirroring the Japanese prices so more like 3-8$) and do not find them that expensive (You should see the crap they sell you on Xbox live for 5$!).

[Smash_Brother]

Oh, that's right...

$5 for NES games is laughably high. If by some miracle you haven't played these games in the 20+ years they've been kicking around out there, I doubt people would be dumb enough to now pay $5 when you can download them in under 15 seconds and try them free (most of which suck anyways).

[Jin-X]

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Originally posted by: joedick

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Originally posted by: Jin-X
"2:09 a.m. EST [update 11]: Gemaga reports 3,800 yen cost for the remote, 1800 yen for the classic controller, and 1800 yen for the nunchuck attachment." - Joystiq

No way the nunchuck is sold separately.

It's included in the box, of course they will sell extras, like they do any controller

What I mean is they are selling extra controllers separately, the Wiimote and Nunchuk aren't sold together when you buy extra ones, that can't be true, that would be insane, most games use both, they are considered to be one controller, not an accesory.

[Hostile Creation]

I'm just saying that all of you were setting yourselves up for disappointment when you were expecting two controllers, a game packed in, an October release date, and a 180 dollar price tag.
Is it mildly disappointing to have to pay about 35 dollars for a game you may or may not want?  Sure it is.  But fire is not falling from the sky.

[Mario]

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I like how everyone's acting like this is a big deal.

For people on a budget, it IS a big deal, especially those who didn't want Wiisports and will have to pay extra for a pack in they didn't want.

Not a big deal for me and I have no income or money right now at all. Go play your HDTV and cry.

[capamerica]

I can't beleave they are releasing after the PS3. But then again maybe its smart since after the release of the PS3 the hype for the PS3 will start to disapear and then Nintendo can come in a steal the media hype away from Sony. And once all the PS3 units are gone and up on eBay Nintendo might look like a great alternitive.

$250 isn't that bad for a system but truthfully I would rather Nintendo release it for $200 without WiiSports. When the system costs $250 alot more of your consumers are going to look at it and say to themselves "for a extra $50 I can get a Xbox360" and if MS really wants to bring the fight to Nintendo they could easily drop the core unit down to $250.

Nintendo better have a really killer launch line up.

The VC games seem a bit pricey for NES games, SNES and N64 I can understand but NES games should have been $2.

I'm a bit surprized with some of built-in features. And I'm surprized that they didn't add MP3 and DVD play back.

Overall I think I'm kind of disapointed. Heres hoping there will be some really BIG news in the US announcement.

[Svevan]

You may want WiiSports when it comes out, plus this isn't a price-gouge. I am confident the difference between the Jap and US price (which is small anyways, exchange rates cannot be trusted), will be justified by pack-ins with the US Wii.