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RE: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #75 on: September 13, 2006, 09:33:26 PM »
Nintendo did release NES classics for $30, and people bought them, yes theres the portability but its still a rip-off.

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« Reply #76 on: September 13, 2006, 09:33:41 PM »
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Oh, that's right...

$5 for NES games is laughably high. If by some miracle you haven't played these games in the 20+ years they've been kicking around out there, I doubt people would be dumb enough to now pay $5 when you can download them in under 15 seconds and try them free (most of which suck anyways).


Well I hate emulation and find it too much of a chore to get working. If I do then I hate the controls so 5$ is fine with me, especially since most NES games end up costing that on Ebay after s&h
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RE:From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #77 on: September 13, 2006, 09:33:53 PM »
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I guess I won't be getting one until Christmas, now. I could afford the $300 or so Canadian (system and a game) I expected. Up that to $375 or so and I just cannot afford it.

Can't say how disappointing this is. Really can't say.
The Canadian dollar is really strong at the moment, and Nintendo of Canada seems to be doing a pretty good job of late (putting USB dongles and Electroplankton in stores, etc..). Hopefully they either change the bundle so that it doesn't come with Wii Sports (unlikely), or the price isn't raised too much - maybe to $270 or $280. It doesn't sound too good, but at least it's not as expensive. After all, the PS3's premium system was listed as $660 CDN (a 1.1 ratio).. I was going to pick up Wii Sports (maybe not at launch) but I don't like that they added it as a pack in for all the consoles.

EDIT: I sound more bitter in that post than I really am. To clarify, a $50 or $35 difference isn't the end of the world - many people here are making it sound like it is.. I had already budgeted for $250 US (Kept the highest price in mind so that I would either be pleasantly surprised or indifferent). I will still buy it at launch, and I will feel like I got my money's worth. Hostile's right; you probably shouldn't be expecting another controller to be tossed in, although it would be a nice bonus. Let's focus on the positives now..

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RE:From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #78 on: September 13, 2006, 09:36:39 PM »
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I'm just saying that all of you were setting yourselves up for disappointment when you were expecting two controllers, a game packed in, an October release date, and a 180 dollar price tag.
Is it mildly disappointing to have to pay about 35 dollars for a game you may or may not want?  Sure it is.  But fire is not falling from the sky.


All I expected was 199.99 and crossing my fingers, not expecting, for 2 controllers. Now I'm getting 249 for a game I really didn't want; however, if we get 2 controllers its alright, well except for the VC prices which I'm hoping are the ones for new games, $5 for a Nes game is crazy.


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RE:From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #79 on: September 13, 2006, 09:37:34 PM »
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Originally posted by: Mario Not a big deal for me and I have no income or money right now at all. Go play your HDTV and cry.


Ain't talking about me, pal, talking about the many people who just barely scrape by with rent+food.

Trust me, they exist and many very much fall into the "casual" market Nintendo insists it's aiming for.
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RE:From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #80 on: September 13, 2006, 09:38:05 PM »
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You may want WiiSports when it comes out, plus this isn't a price-gouge. I am confident the difference between the Jap and US price (which is small anyways, exchange rates cannot be trusted), will be justified by pack-ins with the US Wii.


I hope you are right about the pack-ins, don't get me wrong I'm still super excited about Wii but I fear this could bite them in the butt and I do NOT want to see another GameCube.
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« Reply #81 on: September 13, 2006, 09:39:09 PM »
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Well I hate emulation and find it too much of a chore to get working. If I do then I hate the controls so 5$ is fine with me, especially since most NES games end up costing that on Ebay after s&h


Game freezes.

End of discussion.
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RE:From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #82 on: September 13, 2006, 09:46:02 PM »
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I hope you are right about the pack-ins, don't get me wrong I'm still super excited about Wii but I fear this could bite them in the butt and I do NOT want to see another GameCube.


With or without my money, I'm sure Ninty will be fine.

Sony, their only real competitor, has borked it up so badly that they've given Nintendo more than ample wiggle room.
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RE: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #83 on: September 13, 2006, 09:46:31 PM »
Wii Japan site is up on wii.com.

Tons of video clips, slides of the presentation, as well as a look into the UI.
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RE: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #84 on: September 13, 2006, 09:47:43 PM »
Alright, five things.

1. Nintendo will sell as many Wiis as they can ship this year at $250. Why? because that price is what the market (the early adopter market) will bear.

2. I predict a Wii price drop to $199 next year, because you know the PS3 and 360 are going to have their prices slashed in 2007. The console wars are gonna get bloody.

3. Wii $250, extra controller set, $60*, Zelda $50, Red Steel $50 = $410* minimum. Don't expect a Christmas present from me this year.

4. Ian is going to have a cow.

5. When can I reserve one of these things at Gamestop?

*assuming it doesn't come with 2 wiimotes+nunchuka sets, which I don't think it will.

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RE: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #85 on: September 13, 2006, 09:48:46 PM »
Emulation is a chore? Since when?

It's much easier to use emulators than pay $5 per NES game that can be had for pennies. Even though having it all on one console is nice.

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RE: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #86 on: September 13, 2006, 09:51:35 PM »
If there's one thing we should be complaining about it's that Super Paper Mario has been pushed back to 2007 (and is coming to Wii).

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RE: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #87 on: September 13, 2006, 09:52:04 PM »
Plus emulation is terrible if you want to play it with anyone else.  I have no problem paying 5 or 10 dollars for a game I never got to play, and I have every NES game ever made on my computer.
I'll still download some.
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RE: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #88 on: September 13, 2006, 09:53:55 PM »
so having the price as 50 dollars more..wow that will allow them to lower the price even more...albeit because of a price markup..but when the price gets down to 99...Nintendo will have already taken the market.
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RE:From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #89 on: September 13, 2006, 09:55:34 PM »
It seems it only comes with one controller...

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So you have to spend $300 to be able to play Wii Sports multiplayer? So much for going for "non-gamers". At least the games will be $50.

I'm going to sleep and hope that when I wake up Nintendo pulls a fast one on us ala Smash Bros on E3 by proving some of these prices/packages bogus.
 

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« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2006, 10:01:11 PM »
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Plus emulation is terrible if you want to play it with anyone else.  I have no problem paying 5 or 10 dollars for a game I never got to play, and I have every NES game ever made on my computer.
I'll still download some.


Please send me some money because, clearly, you have it to burn.
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RE: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2006, 10:03:32 PM »
A note about pricing in general..

First off, the VC pricing is just fine - $9 US for N64 games and $6-7 for SNES games is not a rip off at all. Even the NES pricing ($4) is not bad; I would still download quite a few..

They announced that Zelda would be 6800 Yen when it came out. However, they also announced that no game in North America would be more than $50 US. 6800 Yen converts to $58 US, so there is some discrepancy there. We might be able to use this and apply it to the accessories and perhaps VC games. I'm hoping that after all the conversion, the controller and analogue attachment turns out to be $40 US..
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RE:From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2006, 10:03:43 PM »
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It seems it only comes with one controller...

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So you have to spend $300 to be able to play Wii Sports multiplayer? So much for going for "non-gamers". At least the games will be $50.

I'm going to sleep and hope that when I wake up Nintendo pulls a fast one on us ala Smash Bros on E3 by proving some of these prices/packages bogus.



That better not be correct, because that will really hurt the Wii in that Wiisports is MULTIPLAYER focused and will probaly leave a bad taste in the mouths of people who do not buy a second controller. On a side note I can't wait to see what Ian says lol.
 
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« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2006, 10:11:39 PM »
The frustration I feel right now is overpowering. I really, REALLY hope Nintendo gives us 2 controllers. If not please make the second controller reasonably priced. $60 for Wiimote and Nunchuck IS NOT reasonably priced. $40, $50 tops for the combo. I guess I'm going to bed now (it's 3:10 AM) and I am hoping tomorrow morning we have a very clear and accurate knowledge of what will be in the box.

On a side note, Component Cables (or VGA), are they in the box?, I might've missed Nintendo saying something about this in the past and I was just curious if any of you guys knew.  
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« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2006, 10:27:30 PM »
There is a *little* bit of sticker shock here too. I'd even be happier with $220 without WiiSports, because I don't really care about it. Or at least 2 Wiimotes as a good value-add for the $250.

This doesn't have the same pop as DS's $150 aggressive launch pricing. But, not a deal breaker.

The UI is awesome, at least.
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« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2006, 10:34:52 PM »
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They announced that Zelda would be 6800 Yen when it came out. However, they also announced that no game in North America would be more than $50 US. 6800 Yen converts to $58 US, so there is some discrepancy there.


Media products are always more expensive in Japan. A regular DVD release will cost you about Y4000 yen when it first comes out, while a "special edition" release (it's very common in Japan to have a regular and special release for most popular titles) will sell in the Y5000-6500 range. Videos games also cost more there too, but are actually resonably close to DVDs versus the huge discrepancy seen in the US and other markets.

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RE: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2006, 10:43:50 PM »
"Please send me some money because, clearly, you have it to burn."

I have a grand total of fifteen dollars right now.
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« Reply #97 on: September 13, 2006, 11:58:51 PM »
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There is a *little* bit of sticker shock here too. I'd even be happier with $220 without WiiSports, because I don't really care about it. Or at least 2 Wiimotes as a good value-add for the $250.

This doesn't have the same pop as DS's $150 aggressive launch pricing. But, not a deal breaker.

The UI is awesome, at least.


That is one thing I found most impressive was the User interface, it seems slick and easy to use, very professional looking. I still want to know about the Wii 24hr internet connection.
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RE:From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #98 on: September 14, 2006, 12:13:50 AM »
As I stated in the official event thread, I was blown away by the teaser trailer. It has helped relieve some of my worries about the price (even if godforbid it doesn't come with two Wiimotes, though I still worry about the launch date), many of the games look like so much fun and I haven't felt this giddy about a system since, well, the N64. I want to know more about that underwater game, some of those quirky games shown, and I want more info on Project Hammer (which is looking great).
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RE: From Seattle Post-Intelligencer: $250 on Nov. 19
« Reply #99 on: September 14, 2006, 02:37:05 AM »
I just realized, if its true that Wii sports will be bundled with the console, then it confirms that Nintendo hopes that Wii sports will sell the concept of the Wiimote to the casual gamer.

The thing is that according to the japanese trailer, they also show boxing. I doubt they will sell it separately so it might also be part of Wii sports.
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