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« Reply #100 on: September 09, 2006, 04:58:52 PM »
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Matt's problem is that he's a hardcore gamer. Seriously. He likes Metroid. METROID!

And your problem is that you have no taste in games. Seriously. You don't like Metroid. METROID.


It's a gunpei Yokoi game. GUNPEI YOKOI.

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Basically, Matt has always been a rough fit for Nintendo because he's becoming more and more of a Dinosaur type of gamer, and all of his pat vitriol for Nintendo has resulted from his difficulties adapting to this brve new world of gaming where he's more of a niche minority than a demigod.

So gamers who prefer games that aren't designed for dinosaurs are dinosaurs now?


...whut?

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RE: Wii is so not hardcore. And you know it!
« Reply #101 on: September 09, 2006, 05:03:39 PM »
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It's a gunpei Yokoi game. GUNPEI YOKOI.

Yes, that was my point. The man was a genius.

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...whut?

You're calling Matt befind the times for being too "hardcore" to appreciate a brave new world where games like Brain Age are designed for people who are...well...behind the times. I was noting the irony of the situation.
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« Reply #102 on: September 09, 2006, 05:11:06 PM »
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It's a gunpei Yokoi game. GUNPEI YOKOI.

Yes, that was my point. The man was a genius.


perhaps, but he was a HARDCORE genius.

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...whut?

You're calling Matt befind the times for being too "hardcore" to appreciate a brave new world where games like Brain Age are designed for people who are...well...behind the times. I was noting the irony of the situation.


Ah, I see. Hahahaha. clever.

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« Reply #103 on: September 09, 2006, 07:48:07 PM »
Heh, didn't Juan (the one who wrote this) use to work at the Nintendo channel?

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Now it makes sense. Someone is pissed off he didn't give Double Dash a 9.0. I didn't realize people really cared that much. You know what? I love Nintendo as much as anyone but I think 7.9 was too HIGH for Double Dash. 7.5 was more fair. OMG ITZ TEH TRUTHZ!!!!?q@@ Who are you to declare what is and isn't qualified as a flaw in a game, anyway? But because I'm tired of this silly say-so, let's look at part of the conclusion for the Double Dash review:
It doesn't really matter, Artimus and Deg, since Fran Mirabella actually wrote the interview..  
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« Reply #104 on: September 09, 2006, 07:53:03 PM »
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Heh, didn't Juan (the one who wrote this) use to work at the Nintendo channel?

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Now it makes sense. Someone is pissed off he didn't give Double Dash a 9.0. I didn't realize people really cared that much. You know what? I love Nintendo as much as anyone but I think 7.9 was too HIGH for Double Dash. 7.5 was more fair. OMG ITZ TEH TRUTHZ!!!!?q@@ Who are you to declare what is and isn't qualified as a flaw in a game, anyway? But because I'm tired of this silly say-so, let's look at part of the conclusion for the Double Dash review:
It doesn't really matter, Artimus and Deg, since Fran Mirabella actually wrote the interview..


LOL That's right. Oops!

Guess it just goes to show how empty his comments were.

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« Reply #105 on: September 09, 2006, 08:05:38 PM »
I honestly couldn't stand Double Dash, it felt like a huge step back from Mario Kart 64 and I think his score of 7.9 is overly genorous.  
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« Reply #106 on: September 09, 2006, 08:45:49 PM »
More like it's still remains the best Mario Kart game, even after MKDS.

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« Reply #107 on: September 09, 2006, 09:08:25 PM »
I agree with Mario; to say that MK64 is better than Double Dash, forget by a huge margin, is just untrue..
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« Reply #108 on: September 09, 2006, 09:16:52 PM »
It was certainly better than MK64 in some ways, but it failed to deliver in the most important way. The track design was boring.
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« Reply #109 on: September 09, 2006, 09:22:29 PM »
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You're calling Matt befind the times for being too "hardcore" to appreciate a brave new world where games like Brain Age are designed for people who are...well...behind the times. I was noting the irony of the situation.


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« Reply #110 on: September 09, 2006, 09:30:05 PM »
For the record I did not initially claim that Matt wrote the review.  I said the SITE wrote the review first and when Artimus stepped up in defense of the review I thought then that Matt wrote it.  And my comments weren't empty, Artimus.  I wouldn't throw too many rocks my way if I were you.

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« Reply #111 on: September 09, 2006, 09:30:54 PM »
After reading through I think I can see some sticking point that came up with NSMB as well.

Black: One camp wants games to be reviewed in a vacuum.  Where it is treated like its the only game the person has ever played.
White: The other camp wants games to be reviewed in context to every game made.  The review is done in a style where its strength and weaknesses are measured against its peers.

Each school of thinking has its pros and cons.  Ideally a review would consist of a Black and White review.  This allowing people to form their own Greys on the matter.  Much like politics we all live in the Greys because it is against mans nature to adhere to the extremes.  We just tend to be more left or right and argue accordingly.

Personally I guess I'm more White.  I like Black reviews but I'm able to form my Greys better when I have reference points.  A White review is more useful for me in my final decision and a Black review is more academicaly enjoyable.

(Oh just so you know I didn't randomaly pick who was white and who was black.  White was chosen for the all enclusive review because white light is all the colors and Black was chosen for the vacuum review because it is the absence of color and the color of Space.)
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« Reply #112 on: September 09, 2006, 09:51:58 PM »
i prefer mario kart ds over both 64 and dd...

as far as matt goes...he can play whatever video gamehe wants without work getting in the way.....thats something i can't do irght now. So he is in a way unlike us. Most of us are in college and have jobs..which leaves very little room for video games. So, in the last 4 years iv gone from hardcore gamer to casual
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« Reply #113 on: September 09, 2006, 10:49:07 PM »
Might I borrow a point from Rick in another thread and inform you that rare few, if any, video game editors are journalists.

Yes, I might. So holding any of them (IGN, PGC, etc) to a journalist standard is barking up the wrong tree. They're all just fans with a soapbox they made for themselves (PGC) or trying to make a living/revenue off of (business sites).

About Matt, some of you seem too dramatic in your dislike for him. At least the examples mentioned (voice acting, "forcing" developers) seem pretty weak, if not out of context. Relax. Take a blue pill if you must, and I don't mean Viagra.

Besides, isn't Matt just one of those "30 year old stunted man-children" Deg accused older gamers of being?
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« Reply #114 on: September 09, 2006, 11:26:21 PM »
I'll have to thank Nintendo and their damn Brain Games for quashing that statement with their newfound popularity with older folks.  Folks much much older than 30.  Damn Brain games.  Damn them and their long damn titles.
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« Reply #115 on: September 09, 2006, 11:52:47 PM »
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I agree with Mario; to say that MK64 is better than Double Dash, forget by a huge margin, is just untrue..


Unless you have a differing opinion, I found Double Dash to be uninspired, whether it be the generic racing tracks, basic battle mode arenas or the lame battle mode (I really prefer the ability to jump and thought the level designs were great in MK 64). WIth that said I prefer MK DS over both MK64 and MK DD.  
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« Reply #116 on: September 10, 2006, 04:08:57 AM »
My favorite Mario Kart game is Super Mario Kart DS, because it is the perfect blend of all Mario Karts.  However, Double Dash is a very close second.  I found that the game was creative, and had very inspired level design.  I thought it was innovating the racing game, with many its concepts.


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« Reply #117 on: September 10, 2006, 06:42:16 AM »
Having gone back and played MK 64 recently, I just can't see how anyone would think its level designs are superior in any way to MKDD's. They're dull, easy, and short. But this is one of those debates with no possible resolution, so I guess I'll leave it there.
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« Reply #118 on: September 10, 2006, 06:54:56 AM »
MKDS would be the best if it didn't include RED SPAHKS.  Seriously, racing becomes more of a challenge to power-boost on every occasion and less of FUN GAME.  Plus there's the ability to snake which just ruins everything.  I want power-boosting GONE from the next Mario Kart.  Other than that MKDS is awesome, oh well, good game ruined.

MKDD has strange controls, but once you get used to them I thought it was tons of fun.  I just think the special character-based items were handled poorly, I'm glad they're gone now.  Other than that it was pretty good.

MK64 was awesome.  The tracks were great, but more importantly it just felt good control-wise.  MK64 wins.

MKSC for GBA was awesome too, unfortunately I lost my copy.  I figured at the time that MKDS would be so awesome I wouldn't need it anymore, but I guess I was wrong, I still want it back.  The tracks freaking rocked.

The original's okay, but the worst of the bunch in my opinion.

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« Reply #119 on: September 10, 2006, 07:15:03 AM »
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« Reply #120 on: September 10, 2006, 07:25:56 AM »
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MK64 was awesome.  The tracks were great, but more importantly it just felt good control-wise.  MK64 wins.


The terrible loose control is what ruins the game for me.

Double Dash had really tight controls and good drifting, and that's what makes it my preferred Mario Kart.

I know that goes against the grain of most Mario Kart fans.
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« Reply #121 on: September 10, 2006, 07:51:14 AM »
I prefer DD to 64, but I think 64 is a poor game. Can't stand it. I feel the two handheld versions are easily the best.

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« Reply #122 on: September 10, 2006, 08:09:09 AM »
I think the original has one thing that made it awesome.  The feather.  Seriously, that feather added for some serious strategy and shortcuts.  It is up there with the best.  

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« Reply #123 on: September 10, 2006, 09:20:51 AM »
MKDD and MKDS suck. They include the blue shell.

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