Author Topic: Wii is so not hardcoreend (Read 41000 times)

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #150 on:** September 10, 2006, 07:51:23 PM »

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Originally posted by: Strell
No, if you don't like Metroid at all, you have bad taste.

It's not even debatable.

For some reason, I keep reading "The Wii is so not hardcore" in a Group X voice.

Shiggity shiggity schwa.

As you should read it.

WalkingTheCow · « **Reply #151 on:** September 11, 2006, 12:46:14 AM »

*looks up from his harmonium*

The Grand Theft Auto series was always well reviewed but I could never manage being terribly interested in them. After about 30 minutes I'm immensely bored. Yet. . . I'm still pretty confidant in my good taste.

*looks back to his harmonium, thinks better of it and grabs the ukelin*

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #152 on:** September 11, 2006, 01:52:56 AM »

So now this thread is a competition to see who has the worst taste in games?

Yeah okay.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #153 on:** September 11, 2006, 03:57:26 AM »

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Originally posted by: WalkingTheCow
*looks up from his harmonium*

The Grand Theft Auto series was always well reviewed but I could never manage being terribly interested in them. After about 30 minutes I'm immensely bored. Yet. . . I'm still pretty confidant in my good taste.

*looks back to his harmonium, thinks better of it and grabs the ukelin*

Perhaps its the open-ended game design. I really don't enjoy the "playground" type game design worlds. I want to have specific tasks that I know what to do and how. I don't want to search to find them either.

Ceric · « **Reply #154 on:** September 11, 2006, 04:50:07 AM »

Agree.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #155 on:** September 11, 2006, 08:52:01 AM »

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Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
So now this thread is a competition to see who has the worst taste in games?

Yeah okay.

lol, seems like it

F-Zero GX is the most hardcore and difficult as hell game EVAR!

and how can you not like Metroid? :S

JonLeung · « **Reply #156 on:** September 11, 2006, 09:12:13 AM »

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Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
So now this thread is a competition to see who has the worst taste in games?

Yeah okay.
lol, seems like it

F-Zero GX is the most hardcore and difficult as hell game EVAR!

and how can you not like Metroid? :S

I've finished hundreds of games. Heck, for all I know, maybe over a thousand...or two? I've certainly lost count. Nearly every game I touch. I can finish just about all games on a three day rental (back when they were only three days), except for some RPGs which rarely take over a week.

BUT IN F-ZERO GX I CAN'T PASS STORY MODE'S STAGE 7! And I hear there are at least two more stages after that, one of which is on a track with no rails!

F-ZERO GX owns my butt, shamefully. But considering that it's by Nintendo AND Sega, I couldn't ask for a better game to be defeated by. (You know, like how some losers in a tournament (even in the early rounds) who lose along the way to the champ are like, "at least I lost to the champ"...etc.)

KDR_11k · « **Reply #157 on:** September 11, 2006, 10:30:50 AM »

I dopn't mind sandboxes but I want there to be a point to my actions, GTA fails horribly at that. Sure, you can shoot people up or drive a car into and over things but a few minutes later there's nothing left of that. Get caught? Just respawn. Die? Respawn. Fail a mission? Just go back to the boss and get the mission again.

Deguello · « **Reply #158 on:** September 11, 2006, 10:51:27 AM »

LOL! IGN Playstation guy attempts to save face, fails.

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This is still a quasi-debate on whether certain videogames qualify as being hardcore, yes? And not a debate on abortion or gun control?

Listen, since you asked, I’ll tell you what I meant by hardcore. A game, to me, is hardcore when exceedingly difficult, appeals to a small section of the gaming public, and is obtuse in some way or another, whether through its mechanics or theme.

Metroid, Zelda and Mario are fantastic franchises that appeal to almost everybody. So, by my definition, which is the only one under attack, none of them qualifies.

And that’s all I’m going to say. There’s far too much to do (eating, shaving, watching episodes of Futurama) to spend significant time on any message board arguing about — honestly now — things that don’t matter.

I guess that last sentence just confirms that he thinks his opinion does not matter.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #159 on:** September 11, 2006, 11:00:58 AM »

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Originally posted by: Deguello
LOL! IGN Playstation guy attempts to save face, fails.

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This is still a quasi-debate on whether certain videogames qualify as being hardcore, yes? And not a debate on abortion or gun control?

Listen, since you asked, I’ll tell you what I meant by hardcore. A game, to me, is hardcore when exceedingly difficult, appeals to a small section of the gaming public, and is obtuse in some way or another, whether through its mechanics or theme.

Metroid, Zelda and Mario are fantastic franchises that appeal to almost everybody. So, by my definition, which is the only one under attack, none of them qualifies.

And that’s all I’m going to say. There’s far too much to do (eating, shaving, watching episodes of Futurama) to spend significant time on any message board arguing about — honestly now — things that don’t matter.

I guess that last sentence just confirms that he thinks his opinion does not matter.

What PS2 games are exceedingly difficult and appeal on to a small section of the gaming public? Ummmm, guess that counts out every franchise on the system lol. Really he makes no sense whatsoever, what exactly is a "small section" of the gaming public? Personally I consider a hardcore gamer as someone who enjoys games of all different genres and doesn't let what is "Popular" affect his/her descision on what to play.

wandering · « **Reply #160 on:** September 11, 2006, 11:01:06 AM »

I like merriam-webster's definition:

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hard core
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1 : a central or fundamental and usually enduring group or part: as a : a relatively small enduring core of society marked by apparent resistance to change or inability to escape a persistent wretched condition(as poverty or chronic unemployment) b : a militant or fiercely loyal faction

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #161 on:** September 11, 2006, 11:49:07 AM »

"YOU KNOW IT, FOO'. GAMERS ARE HARCORE, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, SUCKA."

--MR. T

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Though that does avoid the other definition of "hardcore" involving the actual content of the product, you know, the "for big kids only" ECW or porno flick kind -- the stuff that's usually lame cuz they fail to be executed tastefully, unlike Krystal in StarFox Adv or Daisy in Short Shorts Sportswear.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #162 on:** September 11, 2006, 06:26:40 PM »

lol, it's even worse now XD

Metroid isn't really popular (shame really, those games rule) so that doesn't make them comply with his "definition", and that makes the PS2 is the most not-hardcore thing ever....

in any case, that guy is an idiot, and MrT and Pro are right

Strell · « **Reply #163 on:** September 11, 2006, 06:52:19 PM »

By this dude's definition, only vertical shooters are hardcore.

And no one plays those anymore except about .004% of the gaming public.

wandering · « **Reply #164 on:** September 11, 2006, 07:11:38 PM »

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And no one plays those anymore except about .004% of the gaming public

What is up with that? I had a friend who traded in Ikaruga because it was "too hard."

I'm not saying it's not hard - it is - but that's not the point. You move a ship around and shoot lasers at badguys. I just have no idea how anyone could find that not fun.

Ceric · « **Reply #165 on:** September 11, 2006, 07:22:46 PM »

"If it Moves Shoot It"

WalkingTheCow · « **Reply #166 on:** September 11, 2006, 09:59:31 PM »

Oh ho! Ikaruga!

Beat it twice with the highest amount of lives, easy mode, and continues at 2 mil. points (the quickest countinue gaining option).

And even on those easy, easy settings. . . By far, the most difficult game I've ever played. And it was difficult in the very best way. . . And am I actually on the subject at all?!?

The Wii. "Hard-Core" . . . right.

Relative and/or unanswerable at this point.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #167 on:** September 11, 2006, 11:58:11 PM »

"If it Moves Shoot It"

You played that? Is it any good?

As for difficult and no mass appeal, how about Viewtiful Joe and P.N.03? You can master them to the point where you ever get hit and waste every enemy within moments but the way there is hard and the same applies to alledgedly hardcore games like Contra or Ninja Gaiden (which, considering its popularity, might have difficulty being called hardcore under that definition).

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #168 on:** September 12, 2006, 02:21:08 AM »

I think the message of this thread is hardcore is whatever you want it to be and anyone that critisizes games or people for not being it are stupid heads.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #169 on:** September 14, 2007, 08:21:33 AM »

I recently had an epiphany as to what being a "hardcore gamer" means. It's pretty simple too actually.

Mainstream/Pop Gamer = Hardcore Gamer

Plain and simple. Every time I see the term thrown around it isn't referring to the type of gamer who would take a chance playing anything out there, it is referring to the type of gamer who is interested in only the popular genres of video games (ie: FPS, Sports/Racing, Fighting). I believe that the title is truly a misnomer. In my mind hardcore means that you are very heavily into gaming and you have been around for a while and experienced the full gamut of gaming. You are willing to try new games and experience new things. From now on when I see Hardcore Gamer I am going to replace it in my mind with Mainstream Gamer. And what I would consider to be a hardcore gamer is simply a Gaming Enthusiast/Veteran. Ian's post in the Talkback Guitar Hero DS thread sparked me to reanalyze my perception of the phrase and what exactly it means.

Terranigma Freak · « **Reply #170 on:** September 14, 2007, 12:01:47 PM »

Dammit, where's that Wii Porn channel? That'll show them some hardcore!

darknight06 · « **Reply #171 on:** September 14, 2007, 12:49:08 PM »

Hardcore Gamer: (n) 1. someone who takes videogames far more seriously than anyone ever should.
2. bleary eyed game addict who plays in HIS bedroom in the dark with a Pepsi in hand for hours on
end, sometimes days.
3. a "manchild".

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #172 on:** September 14, 2007, 01:36:12 PM »

Mr. T was right all along. Leave this thread be.

EasyCure · « **Reply #173 on:** September 15, 2007, 06:00:20 AM »

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Originally posted by: darknight06
Hardcore Gamer: (n) 1. someone who takes videogames far more seriously than anyone ever should.
2. bleary eyed game addict who plays in HIS bedroom in the dark with a RED MOUNTAIN DEW GAMER FUEL THAT MAKES YOU TEH L337 HALO PLAYER in hand for hours on
end, sometimes days.
3. a "manchild".

Fixed

talk about mainstream/pop-gamer alright...

clevelandst124 · « **Reply #174 on:** September 15, 2007, 09:38:37 AM »

If you are truly "hardcore" you wouldn't care about sales or systems period. This is because you'd own them all, Wii included, and probably don't hesitate to spend $50 or $60 when a good game comes out (surprise the wii has a few).

The Hardcore that fanboys bring up is just to hold Nintendo to child-like status.

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Author Topic: Wii is so not hardcoreend (Read 41000 times)