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Title: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 04:38:50 PM
So far we know that Glass Joe, Von Kieser and King Hippo will be back and it has that rocking music. Developer:Next Level Games(Super Mario Strikers and Mario Strikers Charged) US Release Date:05/18/09 Europe Release Date:05/22/09 Price:$49.99 http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40745.html http://www.punchout.com/
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 02, 2008, 05:49:40 PM
wow that trailer fucking ruled. ah hahahaha
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Post by: Spinnzilla on October 02, 2008, 05:57:12 PM
This automatically went to my most anticipated game of '09. Move down Conduit.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 02, 2008, 05:59:59 PM
Sick. Any word on multiplayer?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 06:01:34 PM
Yeah it was good. Same with me Spinnzilla. Silks no word yet but I would imagine it would be in there. We know one of the reasons that Punch Out!! was be never forgotten is because of the characters. If you were to make a character and put it in Punch Out!! what would he or she look like?How would they fight? Be Creative.
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Post by: Adrock on October 02, 2008, 06:14:05 PM
Awesome, now maybe Little Mac will be playable in Super Smash Bros. Br... oh... awww...
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Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 06:33:41 PM
nice little trailer, i love the art direction. The cartoony look fits the game more than a realistic look ever would have.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 02, 2008, 06:36:32 PM
Will Reginald VelJohnson return to reprise the role of Doc Louis?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 06:39:43 PM
That would be great. It brings up something. Should the fighters speak?
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Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 06:40:29 PM
If they include Reggie as a fighter, yes ;)
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 06:43:44 PM
I just imagined Reggie as the final fighter.AHHH!
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 02, 2008, 07:20:32 PM
ahahaha getting to Reggie is pretty much the ending. You're destined to lose.
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Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 07:33:36 PM
Yeah, Reggie should be the secret end boss you get to after you beat Tyson. :o
is he still bankrupt? Poor guy.. Nintendo should throw him a bone and ask to use his name/likeness for this game
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 09:29:38 PM
I not sure how I feel about that. The last bad thing I remember him doing was that ear bitting incident. Good idea or bad idea everybody?
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Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 09:32:24 PM
good idea: including him in Punch Out! bad idea: letting him get his own spin-off game where you eat children (wii motion + compatable)
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 02, 2008, 09:39:53 PM
This game looks great, the art style is really stunning while maintaining the same "feel" as the classic punch-out. Congrats to Nintendo for creating what looks like a great looking and FUN game that continues Punch-Out.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 09:44:48 PM
Yep I like that as well GP. Has anybody had any memorable fights against the boxers in Punch Out!!?
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 02, 2008, 10:41:40 PM
Looks pretty meh to me. Like Wii Sports boxing but with better character detail.
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Post by: Ian Sane on October 02, 2008, 10:43:40 PM
People always ask for multiplayer in Punch-Out and I don't see how that would work. Punch-Out isn't really a boxing game. It's a really a boss rush. Every boss has a pattern and you have to dodge when needed and attack when there's an opening. Is it really that different than a typical shmup boss?
So how do you do that with two players? I can think of ways to have two player boxing but not resembling Punch-Out style gameplay.
I'm happy to see this franchise back. Though I want to see a screenshot of a new character. Maybe I'm being paranoid but I get suspicious of a remake if all I see are pre-existing characters. They're all from the first Punch-Out too, no Super Punch-Out exclusive characters.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 10:56:32 PM
That is a interesting theory.
Wii sports boxing has shown that it works.
I'm sure they will have new characters.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 02, 2008, 11:01:43 PM
It works, but I wouldn't pay money for it.
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Post by: Toruresu on October 02, 2008, 11:02:59 PM
Hmm...It seems like a remake, but what the heck. You all know we'd still buy it.
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Post by: Ian Sane on October 02, 2008, 11:23:42 PM
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Wii sports boxing has shown that it works.
That isn't Punch-Out gameplay though. Or it sure as hell doesn't feel like it to me. Personally I found Wii Boxing to be a mess and not nearly as solid as the other Wii Sports. Maybe it IS what Punch-Out multiplayer would be but it's not that great. And if you want it you already have it.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 02, 2008, 11:26:20 PM
That isn't Punch-Out gameplay though. Or it sure as hell doesn't feel like it to me. Personally I found Wii Boxing to be a mess and not nearly as solid as the other Wii Sports. Maybe it IS what Punch-Out multiplayer would be but it's not that great. And if you want it you already have it.
Yes but with the Wii Motion Plus Wii Sports Boxing could provide a great framework for this game.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 11:27:57 PM
Have you played the arcade Punch Out!! Ian? Same thing.
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Post by: Ian Sane on October 02, 2008, 11:55:31 PM
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Have you played the arcade Punch Out!! Ian? Same thing.
What do you mean? It doesn't have multiplayer.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 12:07:11 AM
I am saying that would be how multiplayer could work. Ok imagine the arcade game.Picture how the game has Little Mac at the bottom of the screen and your adversary across from Little Mac. It is similar to boxing in wii sports. Also as Golden said the Wiimotion plus can make the dodges and punches quicker and more fluid.
Ian how would you imagine multiplayer to work?
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Post by: LuigiHann on October 03, 2008, 12:10:35 AM
People always ask for multiplayer in Punch-Out and I don't see how that would work. Punch-Out isn't really a boxing game. It's a really a boss rush. Every boss has a pattern and you have to dodge when needed and attack when there's an opening. Is it really that different than a typical shmup boss?
So how do you do that with two players? I can think of ways to have two player boxing but not resembling Punch-Out style gameplay.
I actually think it'd be interesting in that respect, something like a fighting game, where each character has basic moves and special moves, but the special moves have more predictable patterns and weaknesses, so you have to strategize accordingly.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 12:21:41 AM
Next Level Games is developing this.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 03, 2008, 12:26:22 AM
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 12:32:50 AM
My god I can't stop laughing!!
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 03, 2008, 01:39:53 AM
The only way multiplayer could work with the Punch-Out game mechanics is if you had a split screen, or if it was online or something so that the player would be behind Little Mac (their character), but for the other player it would be just the opposite.
But split screen type games suck, so this would only really be a good idea with online or networked play, where each player gets to have the whole screen for viewing. That said, maybe multiplayer in this game should be exclusively online?
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Post by: ShyGuy on October 03, 2008, 01:42:34 AM
That music is still awesome after all these years.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 03, 2008, 01:51:30 AM
That music is still awesome after all these years.
Indeed it does.
*listens to NESkimos "punchout a tragedy"*
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Post by: IceCold on October 04, 2008, 03:44:40 AM
The video gave me a Jungle Beat boss vibe.
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Post by: Stogi on October 04, 2008, 03:51:15 AM
Little mac is BLACK...............ish
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 04, 2008, 05:11:21 AM
I think that is a tan. Little Mac has lots of spare time.So he probably goes to the beach.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 04, 2008, 12:18:41 PM
I'm sure he gets a lot of sun running through the city with Doc beside him on a bicycle.
You could do local multiplayer as a split-screen time attack to see who can beat a fighter the fastest.
For online multiplayer, they really need to include a create-a-fighter mode that allows you to make some hilarious creations. I would structure a system that would let you register in a weight division, and then have a regional ladder system that allowed you to fight three or four people for a lower belt, fight three more and win a belt, fight three more and win the championship. Like a regional tournament, and then once you win the championship you can fight whoever you want, or enter world tournaments.
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Post by: ShyGuy on October 04, 2008, 01:54:24 PM
Little Mac is an Italian Stallion. Like Rocky.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 04, 2008, 02:50:35 PM
Little Mac was black all along. He just had that skin condition that Michael Jackson has, but he managed to get it treated.
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Post by: LuigiHann on October 04, 2008, 06:38:22 PM
I think maybe they made the main character a little blacker to compensate for the fact that all the enemies are ludicrous racial stereotypes...
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 05, 2008, 01:45:11 AM
Silks I like your idea of the local multiplayer. To add to the create-a-fighter idea I would like a mode where you can fight your creations,give it different tendencies and special moves and send it online to share.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 05, 2008, 01:49:16 AM
Oh man, that would be awesome. Craft a fighter and then see how it fares against human competition. Kind of like a user-generated Bangai-O Spirits level.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 05, 2008, 10:38:49 PM
After watching the trailer many times I noticed that when Glass Joe is flying through the air and the croissants are flying around him. Glass Joe's nose is moving left and right. Also his hair in the first shot is moving when he gets hit.Also Von Kaiser's reaction when Little Mac dodges Kaiser's uppercut.King Hippo's eyes are moving in and out when Little Mac hits him in his gut.
Just some little touches I noticed.
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Post by: Spinnzilla on October 05, 2008, 11:03:19 PM
Although the balance board does make sense for this, I hope you can play with-out. The graphics are some of the cleanest I've seen on the wii yet.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 05, 2008, 11:10:31 PM
that would be cool to play with the balance board.
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Post by: Spinnzilla on October 05, 2008, 11:12:30 PM
that would be cool to play with the balance board.
yes and punching with two wii motes would be better than any work-out in wiifit. :P
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Post by: Ian Sane on October 06, 2008, 01:25:38 PM
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Ian how would you imagine multiplayer to work?
I wouldn't imagine it because it wouldn't make sense. Punch-Out isn't a boxing game. It's about memorizing AI pattern. Take the AI away and it's just two goofs pounding each other like Wii Boxing. The AI is a crucial element of Punch-Out.
I like the idea of creating a fighter and his whole pattern and test it out on people. That is Punch-Out gameplay and would add endless replay value to the game.
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Post by: Stogi on October 06, 2008, 01:54:22 PM
There could be multiplayer; just not directly against each other.
You could face each other by seeing who could whoop an AI's ass faster.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 06, 2008, 05:49:02 PM
I wouldn't imagine it because it wouldn't make sense. Punch-Out isn't a boxing game. It's about memorizing AI pattern. Take the AI away and it's just two goofs pounding each other like Wii Boxing. The AI is a crucial element of Punch-Out.
I like the idea of creating a fighter and his whole pattern and test it out on people. That is Punch-Out gameplay and would add endless replay value to the game.
Yeah, and it would be cool if people could download custom fighters and try their luck against them, as well as create and upload their own. And I imagine multiplayer might be the player who designs the better fighter wins.
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Post by: Spinnzilla on October 06, 2008, 05:53:04 PM
Yeah, and it would be cool if people could download custom fighters and try their luck against them, as well as create and upload their own.
you mean somewhat like racing ghost on mariokart? I think that's a fantastic idea.
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Post by: D_Average on October 08, 2008, 11:55:02 AM
Anyone here played the SNES "Super Punch Out"? That game was a great sequel and easily qualifies in my all time top ten.
I just find it out how some outlets are acting like this Wii version is the first sequel to the original Punch Out. Am I the only one that bought the sequel?
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Post by: Ian Sane on October 08, 2008, 12:32:35 PM
Super Punch-Out is the game I'm more familiar with. I wasn't so hot at it but my brothers mastered it to the point where they could do no-hit speedruns. They would try to top each other's times, usually when the other was out of the house, and then when one discovered a new trick to beat that time they would repeat it until the other brother was completely removed from the scoreboard.
Despite loving Super Punch-Out the older of my brothers isn't interested because he figures Nintendo will f*ck it up. He doesn't like 3D and doesn't like motion control so he's automatically biased against pretty much any Wii game.
At the time I thought everyone loved Super Punch-Out but when I got online I encountered a lot of people who disliked it because it didn't play exactly like the NES game. The irony is that both games are based on arcade games and Super Punch-Out follows the arcade gameplay much more accurately. In reality Mike Tyson's Punch-Out is the oddball of the series. It's like if people crapped on A Link to the Past because it didn't play like Zelda II.
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Post by: Stogi on October 08, 2008, 01:25:46 PM
What's that arcade game where it was split adjacently into two stations and you boxed friends using two joysticks with little glove covers?
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Post by: D_Average on October 08, 2008, 01:36:26 PM
Super Punch-Out is the game I'm more familiar with. I wasn't so hot at it but my brothers mastered it to the point where they could do no-hit speedruns. They would try to top each other's times, usually when the other was out of the house, and then when one discovered a new trick to beat that time they would repeat it until the other brother was completely removed from the scoreboard.
Despite loving Super Punch-Out the older of my brothers isn't interested because he figures Nintendo will f*ck it up. He doesn't like 3D and doesn't like motion control so he's automatically biased against pretty much any Wii game.
At the time I thought everyone loved Super Punch-Out but when I got online I encountered a lot of people who disliked it because it didn't play exactly like the NES game. The irony is that both games are based on arcade games and Super Punch-Out follows the arcade gameplay much more accurately. In reality Mike Tyson's Punch-Out is the oddball of the series. It's like if people crapped on A Link to the Past because it didn't play like Zelda II.
Thats exactly what I did. What I love about the game is there are so many opponents that are great for speed runs. Back in the early 90's my buddies and I would constantly top each others great scores.
Now looking back and owning both games for my Wii, I'd say Super Punch Out has aged better. While Punch Out was a great game in its time, the gameplay in Super Punch Out is just more satisfying IMO.
For anyone that doesn't have it, just pick up Fight Night 2 for the Cube. The entire Super Punch Out game is included with it. On top of that, once you beat it, you can play as Mac in Fight Night.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on February 18, 2009, 04:13:53 AM
Well the ESRB has rated the game.Here are the details (http://Http://esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=26338)
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 18, 2009, 05:23:37 AM
Well the ESRB has rated the game.Here are the details (http://Http://esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=26338)
So I wonder if this means the game is almost finished?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on February 18, 2009, 05:34:05 AM
I heard it was going to be released some time in the first half of the year.So it should come fairly soon.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on February 18, 2009, 09:18:03 AM
I have to agree with Ian Sane again. Punch Out is a pattern recognition AND Rhythm game wrapped into a box package.
They should not have multiplayer in the game, because it wouldn't fit, you would have to change the entire design core for multiplayer and then it just becomes a boxing game. Boring.
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Post by: Stogi on February 18, 2009, 10:45:50 AM
I have to agree with Ian Sane again. Punch Out is a pattern recognition AND Rhythm game wrapped into a box package.
They should not have multiplayer in the game, because it wouldn't fit, you would have to change the entire design core for multiplayer and then it just becomes a boxing game. Boring.
Not necessarily. You could make multiplayer heavily strategic, rather than simply a boxing game. I think it could fit nicely.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 18, 2009, 12:41:19 PM
I have to agree with Ian Sane again. Punch Out is a pattern recognition AND Rhythm game wrapped into a box package.
They should not have multiplayer in the game, because it wouldn't fit, you would have to change the entire design core for multiplayer and then it just becomes a boxing game. Boring.
Must have multiplayer punch-out!
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 18, 2009, 01:10:32 PM
Let's see what we can expect from the short summary... One character flexes his pectoral and glute muscles prior to a fight: Super Macho Man, definitely
While another boxer belches during a cutscene: Its either Soda Popinski or King Hippo
Dropping shorts: King Hippo obviously
I wonder if this will be a remake or a new PO with both new and classic characters.
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 19, 2009, 01:38:50 PM
I am concerned that the new Punch-Out will be a remake. We haven't seen any screenshots of new characters for example. After all this time I think we deserve a new game. No one has waited 15 years to play the NES game with 3D graphics.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on February 19, 2009, 03:02:49 PM
I think we will get some new characters, but Ian you should expect all the old characters to return...and it won't be a remake if the patterns are different.
As for making the multiplayer more strategic...boxing is very strategic but I really do not see how you can turn the punch out Formula into a multiplayer game. If you want to just have those characters selectable and have a more traditional arcade multiplayer boxing game, that I can see happening...but to me it would not be Punch Out, but something else.
But I guess it doesn't matter, as long as the single player remains intact and with the traditional game design it doesn't matter.
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Post by: Stogi on February 19, 2009, 03:06:29 PM
I'm talking strategic in the sense that it's more slowed down and it's more about successfully completing combos. Or even easier, just take what we learned from Wii boxing and improve apun it.
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Post by: SirSniffy on February 19, 2009, 03:32:06 PM
They should totally add a female in there...like some big chick named Ursula or something. I think we've come far enough that people won't get offended at hitting women in the mouth with a big glove.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on February 19, 2009, 03:50:09 PM
I am concerned that the new Punch-Out will be a remake. We haven't seen any screenshots of new characters for example. After all this time I think we deserve a new game. No one has waited 15 years to play the NES game with 3D graphics.
15 years is a long time, not to mention Super Punch-Out wasn't anywhere near the popularity that the original was. So to the average longtime gamer, it's really been over 20 years since the last Punch-Out came out. The reason the characters from the original are being included is so it'll get the attention of the average Punch-Out fan who probably haven't played the game in 20 years and only remembers the original.
Plus it might be a plan of Nintendo's to make younger gamers interested in playing the original and so they'll go out and download the original on the Virtual Console. A way of using one product to hopefully sell another to an audience that otherwise might not have been interested.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 19, 2009, 04:11:18 PM
They should totally add a female in there...like some big chick named Ursula or something. I think we've come far enough that people won't get offended at hitting women in the mouth with a big glove.
Yeah, especially since other Punch-Out wannabes have included women in their ranks (like the infamous Mama Tua in "Ready To Rumble Boxing 2").
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 19, 2009, 04:55:44 PM
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I think we will get some new characters, but Ian you should expect all the old characters to return...and it won't be a remake if the patterns are different.
I wouldn't expect all the old characters to return since they didn't in Super Punch-Out! It would be cool though. You are right that different patterns would make them all different anyway. But that would still be so lazy if there weren't any new characters, you know? F-Zero GX's only new characters were unlockable AX characters (which are near impossible for most gamers to unlock) and although that game was still awesome I found that design choice hurt some of my enthusiasm for the game. It seemed lazy and made things seem more stale. I wouldn't want that for Punch-Out! A good mix of old and new characters (or all the old characters plus several new ones) would keep things fresher. I think it would show the developer is willing to go that extra mile instead of just doing the bare minimum.
Regarding a woman I wouldn't care but I'll bet some feminist group would. Yeah knock-offs have had it but those are so low profile. Nintendo is so huge that they get targetted more and having a game that "glorifies violence against women" is probably not a good idea. You can point out Chun Li but remember that in fighting games you can play as the female characters. In Punch-Out it would just be you controlling the male character beating up the female one. Sounds idiotic but sane people wouldn't complain anyway. I figure Nintendo ought to avoid the issue.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 19, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
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Regarding a woman I wouldn't care but I'll bet some feminist group would.
Technically a true feminist would like women to be represented in it. At least I would love to have women boxers!
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 19, 2009, 06:01:56 PM
Oh let's be honest...
Punch-Out will be made of phail, because every other Wii game has been crap. Ian says so and he is right.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on February 23, 2009, 04:01:35 AM
Gamestop has a tenitive release date set at 05/18/09. The game will cost $49.99.
That isn't a bad release time. I don't think much is coming in May.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 23, 2009, 04:17:13 AM
Isn't it coinciding with Lotion Puss?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on February 23, 2009, 04:33:44 AM
Vitua Tennis 2009 I heard was coming in April and that uses Motion+ So Wii Sports Resort should be coming in March or April.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 23, 2009, 04:50:38 AM
That's too soon! The world is not ready!
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 23, 2009, 10:28:25 AM
Not to mention Nintendo has yet to fully unveil and demonstrate Motion Plus. I think a summer release is more likely.
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Post by: Spinnzilla on February 23, 2009, 11:47:34 AM
this better have 16 player online co-op.
"GANG BEATING!!"
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Post by: Stogi on February 23, 2009, 01:29:39 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'll still be getting the game, I just think the NES style controls could possibly hold it back.
Why do you think that? People who want to play a boxing game with motion controls will be satisfied and people who played the NES game who want to relive the classic controls will also be able to play it the retro way it's a win win situation.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 04, 2009, 01:31:26 AM
Instead of having multiple motions, aim, and pacing for the punches, the punches are digital. Waggle left for left button punch and waggle right for right button punch.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 04, 2009, 02:46:34 AM
I'm not worried. Its just that after hearing endless whining about Nintendo forcing motion controls without any other options I am surprised that classic controls are now an issue.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on March 04, 2009, 11:11:11 AM
I'm not worried. Its just that after hearing endless whining about Nintendo forcing motion controls without any other options I am surprised that classic controls are now an issue.
Actually I'm starting to think that a lot of the complainers are doing it just for the lulz. I mean really, it seems that a lot of the people that complain are just looking for something to complain about just for the fun of it.
It's kind of like when you get together with friends, sometimes you'll intentionally be an assh*le, just to liven things up. I get the feeling that a lot of the people who complain about stuff on the internet are really just like that. Trying to liven things up, because it'd be rather boring if there was nothing to argue about.
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Post by: Spinnzilla on March 04, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
I really hope difficulty is very close to original's, as I don't want to finish the game in a day. BRING THE PAIN. I was also hoping for the option of using two wii-motes rather than the nun chuck combo.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 04, 2009, 07:28:41 PM
Adding a button-only control style isn't inherently bad, it just likely means that the motion controls aren't as intricate as they could be. I was hoping the controls in this game would be an evolution of Wii Sports boxing, which couldn't be replaced by button presses. I can't say I'm disappointed though, because I wasn't expecting that, just hoping.
If the gameplay is solid then I might pick this game up at some point.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 04, 2009, 07:35:27 PM
At least it doesn't sound like the CUSTERFLUCK that Mario Power Tennis Wii is.
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Post by: Ian Sane on March 04, 2009, 07:53:43 PM
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I sometimes love the Nintendo fanbase...
First, they complain that Punch-out might have botchy motion controls.
Today it was confirmed that the game will have classic NES style control as an option, and now THAT is a problem.
Now we know why Nintendo does whatever the hell they want :p .
Isn't entirely possible that it's different people complaining about the two things? I was afraid that Punch-Out would have lousy motion controls and I'm GLAD they're offering a traditional method. Let the fools have their waggle. If the game can work without it then give me something that's accurate and responsive. My only complaint would be that I would like Classic Controller support as well since it's more ergonomic than turning the remote on its side. But that's nitpicking.
Use what works best for the game. EVERY TIME. Motion controls are floaty and inaccurate and if you can't make full use of them DON'T. Find something that works with the nunchuk and remote's button layout and provide a classic/Gamecube controller option.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on March 05, 2009, 01:02:59 PM
I am really hoping they add more punches to make the core game more complex. In both of the earlier games you only had four punches and then the super punch. I hope they add at least four more punches including hooks and uppercuts. Since it's digital, having 8 punches makes sense.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 05, 2009, 01:17:52 PM
Imagine Punch-Out controlled exclusively by Dance Pads or Bongos.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 05, 2009, 11:39:19 PM
Imagine Punch-Out controlled exclusively by Dance Pads or Bongos.
I could actually visualize that since Dance Pads do have an A and B button.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 05, 2009, 11:56:55 PM
Imagine Punch-Out fight patterns designed to make you... dance.
A bizarre but interesting correletion between your real-life legwork and the on-screen fisticuffs.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 20, 2009, 12:20:30 AM
UPDATE!
For the first time ever in a Punch Out game, the new Wii game will have a 2 player mode, and will also feature the return of Doc Louis, Mac's trainer.
Here's the press release: http://gonintendo.com/?p=76321
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 20, 2009, 12:47:40 AM
Having a 2-player mode actually makes this a little more enticing for me, though I still don't think I'll be picking this up until it hits the bargain bin (which means cheap used price when it comes to Nintendo-published titles).
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 20, 2009, 12:56:08 AM
The control setup is what I figured it to be.The 2 player mode will help with replayability.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 20, 2009, 01:23:20 AM
And fat burning.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 20, 2009, 01:40:01 AM
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Ian Sane on March 20, 2009, 03:22:18 PM
I'm iffy on two player but I'm iffy on this game period. If they had to break the game to get multiplayer to work that's no good. But if it's like Metroid Prime 2 where they just tacked something on, and it sucked, but it didn't ruin the single player, then I can live with it. Obviously it would be best if it's just really good but the idea just doesn't seem very feasible with Punch-Out's gameplay.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Luigi Dude on March 23, 2009, 03:34:57 PM
WOW. Looks like Next Level has brought the game successfully to 3D while maintaining what made the game so much fun in the first place. The visuals are nothing short of beautiful.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2009, 05:10:32 PM
Just saw it at game trailers and it is great.The Pink jumpsuit is back.I liked how Doc Louis Raises Little Mac on his shoulders.It looks like there will be more than one round too.Much like the Nes game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 23, 2009, 06:50:05 PM
Like I suspected, Punch-Out is going for the same idea as Street Fighter IV: Incorporate elements, characters and ideas from the classic game while completely updating the graphics, sound and even some of the gameplay.
This definitely feels like its paying homage to the classic game while being new enough for everyone. It makes sense since the most beloved entry in the series is the NES title.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 24, 2009, 01:57:45 PM
BALANCE BOARD SUPPORT CONFIRMED! (Well, I think its been confirmed. It was on an Italian Nintendo press release, but its been translated): http://www.balanceboardblog.com/2009/03/punch-out-wii-supports-wii-balance.html
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 24, 2009, 02:01:35 PM
Hmm this is nice news.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2009, 02:02:47 PM
I have yet to see a balance board. Is there enough room for a 6'4" individual to duck and dive?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 24, 2009, 03:38:56 PM
Depends on how big said individual's feet are.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Kairon on March 24, 2009, 04:14:23 PM
God the style of this game looks really hot. The only weird thing is that mac looks a little stiff as he throws punches...
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 24, 2009, 04:55:55 PM
I like this part of the article:
"Punch-Out!! on Wii offers great new control opportunities, utilising both the Wii Remote and Nunchuk to let you mimic the movements of the left and right hands as you let the leather fly. Meanwhile, the “classic” control system, invites you to use the Wii Remote in a sideways position to simulate the original NES controller and gives the real retro fight feel that Punch-Out!! fans love."
So bottom line, there's no grounds for any kind of bitching since the game can use both motion controls or classic controls.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 24, 2009, 06:16:23 PM
"Punch-Out!! on Wii offers great new control opportunities, utilising both the Wii Remote and Nunchuk to let you mimic the movements of the left and right hands as you let the leather fly. Meanwhile, the “classic” control system, invites you to use the Wii Remote in a sideways position to simulate the original NES controller and gives the real retro fight feel that Punch-Out!! fans love."
So bottom line, there's no grounds for any kind of bitching since the game can use both motion controls or classic controls.
Actually, fans HAVE complained about this as they feel that if they added classic controls then the motion controls suck, and vice versa. So yes, even when options are given to the player its a problem.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 24, 2009, 07:06:42 PM
Well, not that I'm defending the "fans" or anything, but if motion controls can be replaced by buttons then this does likely mean they aren't as ambitious or intricate as they could be. I don't know how you could deny this. However, this isn't indicative of whether or not the current controls actually work, nor does it mean something more ambitious would have worked. Given the nature of Punch-Out!!, it is a fast-paced game where precision is important, and if they had tried more complex controls -- such as attempting to build upon those in Wii Sports -- they would likely not function very well. In this game's case, if the motion controls work (and I haven't seen anything which suggests they don't), they will be more engrossing than the button-only controls even though all they are doing is replacing buttons.
While I can understand how one might be disappointed with the lack of intricate motion control, if the current controls not only function well but also allows the option for buttons then I don't see a problem. Anything more complex would make the game more realistic, which sort of goes against the spirit of Punch-Out!!; for anyone looking for something realistic, there are other boxing games available on Wii.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 24, 2009, 07:08:18 PM
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for anyone looking for something realistic, there are other boxing games available on Wii.
Good boxing games is another story though.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 24, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
I've never played any of them so I wouldn't know. Wii Sports Boxing seems pretty solid though, and everyone has that. If nothing good is currently out there then there will probably be something eventually, possibly using WM+ to expand on Wii Boxing's 1:1 control. There is only one Punch-Out!! though, and it should not become like everything else.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 24, 2009, 07:51:53 PM
Punch-Out was never meant to be a deep, realistic boxing simulator. Its an arcade game (it DID start as an arcade game) with only the basics.
For that to happen, EA would have to bring their Fight Night series to Wii and create a whole new control scheme based on that.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 24, 2009, 08:17:27 PM
With M+ getting as much hype as it has been and EA's surprising good efforts to support it, I wouldn't be surprised if Fight Night was the next big EA Sports game to get the M+ upgrade. Hopefully with dual Wiimote M+ support.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 24, 2009, 08:22:05 PM
With M+ getting as much hype as it has been and EA's surprising good efforts to support it, I wouldn't be surprised if Fight Night was the next big EA Sports game to get the M+ upgrade. Hopefully with dual Wiimote M+ support.
That would be very cool. EA's current Wii Motion+ games are getting a ton of praise, so I'd think it is pretty much a lock we'll see Fight Night using it.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 25, 2009, 05:28:52 PM
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/24128 Disco Kid fights Little Mac, Read all about it! http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47168.html Glass Joe vs Little Mac http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47167.html Von Kaiser takes on Little Mac
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 25, 2009, 08:16:51 PM
Awesome videos!
I am starting to suspect that the balance board confirmation was bogus. They checked the other press releases from Nintendo and the only one that confirms this is the Italian one. If the game did indeed use the BB shouldn't we have heard something about it by now?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 25, 2009, 08:20:45 PM
Wouldn't balance board support make this game too complex anyway? It would mean that there would be some sort of complex dodging system with all of the leaning and such. It would seem to go against the spirit of a Punch-Out!! game and doesn't really make sense.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 25, 2009, 09:55:12 PM
Wouldn't balance board support make this game too complex anyway? It would mean that there would be some sort of complex dodging system with all of the leaning and such. It would seem to go against the spirit of a Punch-Out!! game and doesn't really make sense.
I agree as well. The gameplay would allow for moving left and right, but according to GDC impressions the game works great with both motion controls and classic controls.
I would love a confirmation of this. It isn't of Nintendo to leak something in a foreign press release.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: vudu on March 26, 2009, 02:55:35 PM
I thought I read that you can play with classic controls, motion controls or the balance board. Meaning if you used the balance board you wouldn't be playing with your hands at all--everything would be done using the board.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on March 26, 2009, 03:00:40 PM
No offense, but that's retarded.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: vudu on March 26, 2009, 03:01:45 PM
I thought so, too. (Hey, it wasn't MY idea.)
I found the article I mentioned (http://kotaku.com/5183241/wii-punch+out-has-another-control-scheme-your-feet). Looks like I didn't bother to fully read it.
The headline is Wii Punch-Out!! Has Another Control Scheme: Your Feet and the first sentence of the article is "Nintendo's European arm leaks one more previously unannounced Punch-Out!! features, noting that the Wii remake of the NES classic will offer Wii Balance Board support for a third control scheme".
However, if I had gone on to read the article I would have seen the following.
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Seems Little Mac has a fitness ultimatum of his own to issue, as Nintendo of Italy's press release brings first word of Balance Board support, indicating that Punch-Out!! players will be able to dodge punches by shifting their weight on the Wii Fit peripheral. It sounds like the Balance Board will be used in tandem with the Wii Remote and Nunchuk motion control scheme.
Move along, nothing to see here.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 26, 2009, 09:28:12 PM
Well, I guess it could work, so long as it is just as simple as leaning to the left makes your character dodge to the left and leaning to the right makes your character dodge right. Anything more is too complex for a Punch-Out!! game if you ask me.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 27, 2009, 01:44:51 PM
You know what I sometimes like about the Nintendo fanbase? When their fears are confirmed to be wrong, they stay quiet and look away. But the minute someone mentions something negative they look back and waggling their fingers saying "I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW".
After a strong set of positive impressions from the media Destructoid has posted a slightly negative set of impressions, mainly ragging on the motion controls (which can be switched to classic controls on the fly): http://www.destructoid.com/gdc-09-hands-on-with-punch-out-wii-126414.phtml
What I find amusing is that because of THIS set of impressions fans are saying the game is doomed, never mind the fact that it was a short demo consisting of four matches from the EASY first circuit and NLG has promised more content and features in the final version of the game, including the possibility of multiple difficulty settings and more robust content.
You know what? I am truly convinced that even if the game delivers on ALL aspects, from gameplay to content and there's nothing wrong to complain fans will not be happy because the game is NOT exactly as they envisioned and will not enjoy it for what it is; a return of the classic game in a new package.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 27, 2009, 07:45:15 PM
Pap64, I think you should give up on this "fanbase" you keep referring to ("fanbase" is in quotes because, well, if they're fans why are they so negative?). They seem like the type who just like to complain about everything and aren't ever going to change or be satisfied with anything. Perhaps you should just ignore them if they annoy you? Or do they not annoy you and you are just making observations?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 27, 2009, 08:01:15 PM
Pap64, I think you should give up on this "fanbase" you keep referring to ("fanbase" is in quotes because, well, if they're fans why are they so negative?). They seem like the type who just like to complain about everything and aren't ever going to change or be satisfied with anything. Perhaps you should just ignore them if they annoy you? Or do they not annoy you and you are just making observations?
I'm annoyed by fanbase people who criticize someone else for being disgusted by the fanbase! ;)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 27, 2009, 08:40:56 PM
Pap64, I think you should give up on this "fanbase" you keep referring to ("fanbase" is in quotes because, well, if they're fans why are they so negative?). They seem like the type who just like to complain about everything and aren't ever going to change or be satisfied with anything. Perhaps you should just ignore them if they annoy you? Or do they not annoy you and you are just making observations?
A little bit of both. I admit they do annoy me, but they don't annoy me enough that my whole gaming experience is ruined. I mainly like to make observations and point out how a fanbase reacts to something.
I mean think about it...
During the GC years if this Punch-Out was released people would have jumped all over it, claim that Nintendo was the best and give it a high score.
But since this Punch-Out is coming out on the very evil Wii now the fanbase is cynical, since it employs some new things exclusive to this generation of gaming (like motion controls).
What I find funny is that some people complain that this game is basically the classic NES game with better graphics. Yet many games are essentially updated takes on classic gameplay conventions.
Street Fighter IV is an example of this. Yes, it has brand new graphics and engine tweaks, but it plays like a classic Street Fighter game. All of the characters save for a few are from previous games and it plays very closely to the old arcade games (though I am sure some of the more hardcore fans will tell major differences between the two).
So, isn't Street Fighter IV the same game but with shinier packaging? Technically yes, but it shines because the gameplay still works and the presentation is great.
I suspect the same thing will happen to Punch-Out. Even if it plays exactly like the NES titles the gameplay will still prove worthy and the new take on the series will make it something outstanding.
Not every game needs to innovate or break new ground just to be good.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 27, 2009, 08:49:19 PM
Punch-Out has potential to be a monster hit and one of Nintendo's talked about bridge games. The first punch-out was a very casual game that ANYONE could enjoy. The motion controls are icing on the cake for those on the fence who bought the Wii more for "physical" games like Wii Sports. Not to mention it has eye catching box art. It is odd how now the series is some hardcore game when it has always been a game for everyone. I hope Nintendo gives it proper marketing because they may have something special on their hands.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 27, 2009, 08:56:49 PM
Punch-Out has potential to be a monster hit and one of Nintendo's talked about bridge games. The first punch-out was a very casual game that ANYONE could enjoy. The motion controls are icing on the cake for those on the fence who bought the Wii more for "physical" games like Wii Sports. Not to mention it has eye catching box art. It is odd how now the series is some hardcore game when it has always been a game for everyone. I hope Nintendo gives it proper marketing because they may have something special on their hands.
I think the reason fans say Punch-Out is a hardcore game is because the game progressed and got harder as you learned the ropes.
I agree that Punch-Out was one of the many bridge games on the NES. Not only was the game accessible and easy to understand it featured Mike Tyson, who at the time was very famous and thus everyone knew this was his game.
I think gamers in general don't realize that ALL of life's activities can be hardcore. Baseball, for example, can be enjoyed casually. But once you learned the ropes and decide to pursue it as a profession it becomes harder. People enjoy bowling with friends. But professional bowlers know that it can be hard to try and understand how the ball rolls and how things like speed and movement can affect a throw.
If you go on you learn that nothing in life is easy nor impossible that you can't enjoy it. That's what Punch-Out is; a game so easy any gamer can learn, but those with the skills and patience can progress. And even then, the game doesn't change. The idea is still the same; dodge and hit. The thing is that the opponent has gotten smarter and now YOU must be the smart one.
Many arcade games showed this practice too. The original Donkey Kong featured a simple idea. But as the guys behind "The King of Kong" will tell you there's a lot more going on.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 27, 2009, 09:01:48 PM
Punch-Out was almost flawless when it came to ramping up the difficulty. No matter your skill you could progress past a couple of the fighters, which provide a sense of accomplishment since EVERY battle was like an epic boss battle.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 27, 2009, 09:10:34 PM
When I first played the game I was 7 to 8 years old. The game actually scared me because the characters looked really tough and my guy was very small. When I was in Middle School I re-discovered the game and decided to conquer it so to speak. Every day I would play it and advance. One day I got up to King Hippo. The next day I realized how to beat him and moved up to the next. I kept going till I got to Macho Man and it was really fun climbing the ladder of success.
Punch-Out Wii looks to accomplish that. I think the motion controls, despite the simplicity of them, could add a lot.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 27, 2009, 10:06:35 PM
The first punch-out was a very casual game that ANYONE could enjoy.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. Then again, I suppose I'm talking semantics as labeling any game as "for everyone" is a bit of a misnomer as I don't believe there to be any game in existence which absolutely every person on the face of the planet would enjoy. Case in point: me. I don't like Punch-Out!!, the game is just too difficult. I'm not even going to tell you how many times I attempted to beat the first round of boxers, as even with being as open as I am about my dearth of gaming skill, it's still too embarrassing to mention. :-[
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 27, 2009, 10:10:43 PM
Pretty much everyone in my family loved it and they are NOT gamers. They couldn't get past the first round of boxers but they still loved it, there is enough sense of accomplishment even if you can, let's say, get by two of them. Also I'll hit back at your supposed semantic indictment, I said it is a game that anyone COULD enjoy. Not necessarily WILL enjoy.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 27, 2009, 10:22:54 PM
Well in that case, maybe I shouldn't be so ashamed of how far I could (not) get.
Isn't every game one that anyone could potentially enjoy? The possibility is there if the taste matches.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 27, 2009, 10:24:06 PM
Well in that case, maybe I shouldn't be so ashamed of how far I could (not) get.
Isn't every game one that anyone could potentially enjoy? The possibility is there if the taste matches.
Not really because some games have extreme learning curves and only appeal to a very small group of people.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 27, 2009, 10:33:39 PM
Hm I think I see what you mean. Punch-Out!! appeals to everyone because it has simple controls and is easy to understand. Something like Street Fighter II has complex controls and button combos... I never played it more than once because it was ridiculous. I at least tried to get into Punch-Out!!.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 27, 2009, 10:37:23 PM
Hm I think I see what you mean. Punch-Out!! appeals to everyone because it has simple controls and is easy to understand. Something like Street Fighter II has complex controls and button combos... I never played it more than once because it was ridiculous. I at least tried to get into Punch-Out!!.
That is a better way to put it. The game was easy to get into and you can at least get past the "first level". The Mario games are pretty similar as well with that pick up and play while having fun even if there is more depth then maybe your skill allows you to accomplish.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 27, 2009, 11:00:53 PM
The first punch-out was a very casual game that ANYONE could enjoy.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. Then again, I suppose I'm talking semantics as labeling any game as "for everyone" is a bit of a misnomer as I don't believe there to be any game in existence which absolutely every person on the face of the planet would enjoy. Case in point: me. I don't like Punch-Out!!, the game is just too difficult. I'm not even going to tell you how many times I attempted to beat the first round of boxers, as even with being as open as I am about my dearth of gaming skill, it's still too embarrassing to mention. :-[
Back in the day the game WAS for everyone, regardless of skills. I remember my mother, my older sister and my cousin getting into the game and being overjoyed by having beaten the toughest opponent.
The game comes from a very different time. Back then games were simple in execution and concepts, and thus were very easy to get into. But they weren't easy. The game got harder as you progressed and conquered each stage. The challenge came from the fact that as you got better the game kept testing your skill, but it was still a breeze to understand.
Nowadays, games are too complicated from the get go. They have to insert tutorials just to make sense of the controls and the game becomes more about trying to master the concept than it is about playing it.
This is why the Wii is such a hit with everybody. Its deceptively simple but the challenge ramps up as soon as you decide to master it. Wii Sports, in particular, is easy enough that you can skip the tutorial and still play it. But if you decide to go towards Pro status in all events it quickly becomes difficult, especially in baseball and boxing.
Punch-Out Wii will likely follow this philosophy. Start the game insanely easy, but then the difficulty ramps up as you conquer each fighter.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: vudu on March 29, 2009, 07:55:47 PM
Yeah because that is all the game will have content wise right? Seriously it isn't a big deal especially since they indicated there will be a lot of unlockables in the game. Not to mention the 2 player mode.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_Neal on March 29, 2009, 08:24:34 PM
I won't complain about anything until I play it. I'd rather be blindly optimistic for the next two months instead of almost blindly pessimistic. Especially when Nintendo's been really cagey with the content in this game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 30, 2009, 01:04:40 AM
The first two games had only about a dozen characters or so, so that doesn't really surprise me.
I just saw a commercial for the NES Power Glove on YouTube, and apparently it was compatible with the original Punch-Out!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYBzKFm-rd0
How much do you want to bet that somebody is going to make a claim that the Wii version has no real new content since the original game technically had motion controls?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 30, 2009, 01:57:44 AM
The first two games had only about a dozen characters or so, so that doesn't really surprise me.
I just saw a commercial for the NES Power Glove on YouTube, and apparently it was compatible with the original Punch-Out!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYBzKFm-rd0
How much do you want to bet that somebody is going to make a claim that the Wii version has no real new content since the original game technically had motion controls?
Some morons on GameFAQs are already doing that. While I was debating a troll on the "New Play Control! Pikmin" board, he was trolling Nintendo in general by claiming they are abandoning hardcore games. He claimed Excitebots is only for children and their parents, and that Punch-Out is just a better looking version of the original. After I pointed out that technically you could apply that to Street Fighter IV, I haven't heard back from him.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 30, 2009, 02:32:14 AM
I think Pap's comparison to Street Fighter IV is reaffirmed more by this news. Most of the fighters in SFIV are from previous games, though they are made "new" again by adjusting their movesets along with a brand new graphical style to further impact the player.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 30, 2009, 02:53:36 AM
Going even further with the Street Fighter comparison...
Street Fighter III was good, but the reason its not as beloved is because the new characters weren't memorable (So much so that none of them returned in SF IV).
While Super Punch Out was great the characters are not as memorable (No Little Mac, Doc Louis and only a few returning characters from the original).
Punch-Out Wii looks to be like the SF IV of the series; it goes back to the most popular game in the franchise, re-invents it in a striking graphical look, keeps the classic gameplay intact while creating new elements around that (motion controls, multiplayer and possibly balance board support).
People need to realize that Nintendo plans to re-launch the franchise, and the best way to do so is to get people nostalgic and trigger their NES memories.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 30, 2009, 03:12:24 AM
Punch Out 1 had: Glass Joe Von Kaiser Piston Honda Don Flamenco King Hippo Great Tiger Bald Bull Piston Honda AGAIN Soda Popinski Bald Bull AGAIN Don Flamenco AGAIN Mr. Sandman Super Macho Man Mike Tyson/Mr. Dream
That's 11 unique fighters. and Disco Kid would make 12. So they must be bringing in some characters from Super Punch Out. I'm guessing Bear Hugger, he seems to be the most popular from the sequel.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: DAaaMan64 on March 30, 2009, 05:38:42 AM
My friend beat this game in his time at the demo unit at GDC. Less than one hour. I'd say it must be quite a lot easier.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 30, 2009, 06:40:20 AM
My friend beat this game in his time at the demo unit at GDC. Less than one hour. I'd say it must be quite a lot easier.
Um, wasn't it a demo with 4 or 5 fights? Basically the minor circuit.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 30, 2009, 06:51:38 AM
But the first circuit was super easy anyways in the original.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on March 30, 2009, 09:45:44 AM
Was anyone else confused as a kid as to why this guy was introduced as F* Charlie? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnNxuvKD12M)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 30, 2009, 10:54:51 AM
It's just the minor circuit in the GDC game. Considering it takes about 4 minutes to beat the minor circuit in the original, I'd say "under an hour" is quite an improvement.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on March 30, 2009, 12:55:17 PM
So is balance board support real?
It's the only way I had imagined playing this game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 30, 2009, 01:07:58 PM
It's the only way I had imagined playing this game.
It isn't 100% confirmed. The reason people claim it might be real is because the confirmation came from a press release by Nintendo of Italy. The thing is that the other press releases have the exact, same info as the Italian one, but no mention of balance board, so the information for now is partly true, partly false.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: vudu on March 30, 2009, 02:14:56 PM
The first two games had only about a dozen characters or so, so that doesn't really surprise me.
Super Punch-Out had 16 characters. I'm disappointed that the sequel can't at least match that.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on March 30, 2009, 02:22:27 PM
Anyone up for creating a Super Punch Out Time Attack sticky thread now that its out on the VC? We could post the 3 best times or so on each fighter. Forum members could send in a pic to validate their time.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Ian Sane on March 30, 2009, 02:27:17 PM
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That's 11 unique fighters. and Disco Kid would make 12. So they must be bringing in some characters from Super Punch Out. I'm guessing Bear Hugger, he seems to be the most popular from the sequel.
Has Nintendo stated that all the characters from the first Punch-Out are in the game? I would assume we'll get a mix of characters from both games plus some new ones. One new character would be pretty damn lazy. I'm quite certain we'll get more than that.
There should be at least as many characters as Super Punch-Out has. I am quite disappointed that there aren't. I think my biggest fear with this game is that Nintendo just isn't doing enough with it. We've waiting almost 15 YEARS for a new Punch-Out game and it just seems worrying that it might be a little too similar to the NES game. Super Punch-Out should absolutely not be more advanced than this game. When Nintendo resurrected Metroid it isn't like the new games were less advanced than Super Metroid. Sequels should move forward and if a series remains inactive for so long the expectations are higher.
Nobody waited this long for the NES game with some new characters and new graphics. Even if the game turns out to be really good if that's what we get I would say they've failed.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: vudu on March 30, 2009, 02:31:10 PM
Has Nintendo stated that all the characters from the first Punch-Out are in the game? I would assume we'll get a mix of characters from both games plus some new ones. One new character would be pretty damn lazy. I'm quite certain we'll get more than that.
Nope, only one new character has been confirmed. The rest are returning characters.
We don't know the mix of original characters and Super Punch-Out!! characters, but all I think ShyGuy was showing is that there will be at least one SPO character returning.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 30, 2009, 02:32:46 PM
It's not a sequel, it's called "Punch-Out!!"
meaning, it's a spinoff game so give the project to a spinoff developer that isn't Retro.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 30, 2009, 02:35:09 PM
Hey look at Ian complain. What a surprise!
Let's ignore all the promising gameplay footage, and wait until something that is at worse questionable is revealed to :(
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 30, 2009, 03:49:32 PM
Everything GP says is hilarious when you picture her avatar saying it in a dry, sarcastic way.
Punchout Wii has confirmed Multiplayer and online, right?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 30, 2009, 04:05:09 PM
ShyGuy it has been confirmed that there will be Local multiplayer.No word on online yet.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 30, 2009, 09:48:30 PM
GamePro: Compared to current title character is the squad with 13 fighters somewhat meager. Is there more to unlock, or download to? Tanabe: Oh, there is a lot to unlock enter! There are, for example, characters, new ring environments, challenges, victory animations, etc. possible. In fact, the disc that we must seize the brim and a few other things no longer have space. We are the first internal Nintendo development team, based on such a space problem with the Wii-DVD hits it really gets a lot of stuff!
Ok now the complainers can stop now.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on March 30, 2009, 09:55:32 PM
How many female characters will be in the game?
...I'll show myself out.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 30, 2009, 10:31:01 PM
I wouldn't feel right watching Little Mac give a woman a black eye.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 30, 2009, 10:46:50 PM
GamePro: Compared to current title character is the squad with 13 fighters somewhat meager. Is there more to unlock, or download to? Tanabe: Oh, there is a lot to unlock enter! There are, for example, characters, new ring environments, challenges, victory animations, etc. possible. In fact, the disc that we must seize the brim and a few other things no longer have space. We are the first internal Nintendo development team, based on such a space problem with the Wii-DVD hits it really gets a lot of stuff!
Ok now the complainers can stop now.
Why does that looks like a bad translation of a interview? Whoever wrote that appears to have failed English in school.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 30, 2009, 10:48:33 PM
GamePro: Compared to current title character is the squad with 13 fighters somewhat meager. Is there more to unlock, or download to? Tanabe: Oh, there is a lot to unlock enter! There are, for example, characters, new ring environments, challenges, victory animations, etc. possible. In fact, the disc that we must seize the brim and a few other things no longer have space. We are the first internal Nintendo development team, based on such a space problem with the Wii-DVD hits it really gets a lot of stuff!
Ok now the complainers can stop now.
Why does that looks like a bad translation of a interview? Whoever wrote that appears to have failed English in school.
Because it is a bad translation done by google, the interview was in German.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: vudu on March 31, 2009, 02:13:08 PM
That interview doesn't really say much. When you start the game you'll only have access to the Minor Circuit. Beating it will UNLOCK the Major Circuit. He interviewee didn't say anything to contradict the report of only 13 opponents.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 10, 2009, 01:22:17 AM
http://gonintendo.com/?p=78655
GIGA MAC!
Giga Mac is a character available on head to head mode. When the other players enough damage Mac will turn into Giga Mac and deal more damage.
Looks cool. AND, now Mac has a final smash for SSB 4 XD .
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 10, 2009, 01:57:29 AM
bowser, jigglypuff, mr. game and watch, fox, wolf, falco
also turning Giga in Punchout didn't seem to really help the person who was losing
See, they turn into GIANTS. Little Mac just gets bigger. I think he would be slightly taller than Ganondorf or Bowser in their normal form.
And, I think they had Giga Mac being pummeled because of the whole "David and Goliath" aspect of the game. But I am sure Giga Mac is deadly.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 13, 2009, 05:01:12 AM
In the newest GI they have Bear Hugger and Don Flamenco as returning characters. Http://gonintendo.com/?p=78885
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 13, 2009, 12:46:13 PM
Hah, Flamenco looks really evil.
And good to know they pulled someone out of Super Punch-Out.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Rize on April 13, 2009, 04:15:04 PM
I'm waiting for reviews of this one. Honestly, if they could have topped Super Punch Out, wouldn't they have done it by now (the GBA or GameCube would have been fine platforms for the third game)? I'm starting to seriously think my initial fear will turn out true. It's going to be easier than the first two games owing to the reduced responsiveness of motion control. May I be wrong.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 13, 2009, 04:19:36 PM
I'm waiting for reviews of this one. Honestly, if they could have topped Super Punch Out, wouldn't they have done it by now (the GBA or GameCube would have been fine platforms for the third game)? I'm starting to seriously think my initial fear will turn out true. It's going to be easier than the first two games owing to the reduced responsiveness of motion control. May I be wrong.
Considering I think Punch-Out!! topped Super Punch-Out shouldn't be much of a problem. Also you must not be paying to any of the hands-on play throughs of the game because the controls are NOT gimped. It is interesting that you have all these doubts when the overwhelming response from people who played it has been positive.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 13, 2009, 04:21:58 PM
Motion is fun. More interesting than BUTTON BOXING, GIVE ME A BREAK, PEOPLE SHOULD INTO THEIR GAMES FOR ONCE AND APPLY REAL PHYSICAL COORDINATION.
Wii Wheeling is awesome.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 13, 2009, 04:34:36 PM
Honestly, if they could have topped Super Punch Out, wouldn't they have done it by now (the GBA or GameCube would have been fine platforms for the third game)?
That's a BS argument. What about Metroid? There was 7 years in between releases (1994's Super Metroid, 2001's Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion). Or in Japan how many years did they go between Mother 2 and Mother 3? For all we know they just had no interest in releasing a new Punch-Out.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 13, 2009, 04:43:27 PM
Honestly, if they could have topped Super Punch Out, wouldn't they have done it by now (the GBA or GameCube would have been fine platforms for the third game)?
That's a BS argument. What about Metroid? There was 7 years in between releases (1994's Super Metroid, 2001's Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion). Or in Japan how many years did they go between Mother 2 and Mother 3? For all we know they just had no interest in releasing a new Punch-Out.
Same with Sin&Punishment. There are plenty of franchises that remain dormant for a VERY VERY long time that come back.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Luigi Dude on April 13, 2009, 07:39:29 PM
Well Bear Hugger and Don Flamingo are now confirmed for the game. Scans from the recent issue of Game Informer have come out and in it, both Bear Hugger and Don Flamingo are shown.
Somebody on Gamefaqs posted the scans, here's the links.
I wonder if Mad Clown will be in the game now, since he's just a pallete swap of Bear Hugger?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 13, 2009, 07:42:33 PM
So what is the list of characters that we know so far? My guess is that Bald Bull will be back.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 13, 2009, 07:59:49 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Punch-Out!!_characters#Characters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Punch-Out!!_characters#Characters) has a nice list. So far we have confirmed:
Bear Hugger Don Flamenco Glass Joe King Hippo Von Kaiser
Plus the new character Disco Kid.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 16, 2009, 12:53:34 PM
Morgan Webb (G4TV) showed of Punch Out for the Wii on the Jimmy Fallon Show last nite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks_pA81rvac <--- might get taken down soon, so you better watch it asap if you're interested
(http://i40.tinypic.com/t0re42.jpg)
Here is the hulu.com link - start @ 29:33 http://www.hulu.com/watch/68157/late-night-with-jimmy-fallon-wed-apr-15-2009#s-p1-so-i0
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 16, 2009, 12:59:37 PM
I saw the video and it was really, really bad. Morgan Webb didn't explain how the game worked, so Jimmy Fallon ended up waggling like an idiot while King Hippo pummeled the living crap out of Mac. Definitely one of the worst videogame demonstrations yet.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 16, 2009, 01:48:08 PM
But the game looked really good. especially on that 72" wide screen TV they were using
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 16, 2009, 02:26:50 PM
But the game looked really good. especially on that 72" wide screen TV they were using
It did look nice. But that doesn't excuse the fact that the presentation was laughably bad.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 16, 2009, 02:45:05 PM
I wish I had the kind of money to buy a screen that large (although I don't have any room for a TV that big anyways).
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 16, 2009, 02:57:57 PM
- exhibition mode: fight any boxer of your choosing, practice against holographic representations of the fighters you can’t seem to beat - fights will come with a set of challenges (achievements), and if you accomplish these specific task, you’ll be able to unlock music, voice samples and more
http://gonintendo.com/?p=78957
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on April 16, 2009, 04:08:39 PM
Wow. The game looked so clean.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on April 17, 2009, 02:01:41 AM
- fights will come with a set of challenges (achievements), and if you accomplish these specific task, you’ll be able to unlock music, voice samples and more
Ooh, I like that because then it isn't just about winning.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 17, 2009, 02:53:54 AM
- fights will come with a set of challenges (achievements), and if you accomplish these specific task, you’ll be able to unlock music, voice samples and more
Ooh, I like that because then it isn't just about winning.
Yeah it is a nice addition Mop it up.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 17, 2009, 03:37:30 PM
A couple more details.
- completing a circuit changes Little Mac’s outfit (green, to blue, to ect…) - use all three stars at once for a triple star spinning uppercut - ring size/venue changes from circuit to circuit - Little Mac wears a helmet in the training session (details discussed earlier) - as mentioned before, there will be specific challenges in Exhibition mode
Von Kaiser challenges: - Win the fight and land EVERY punch thrown - TKO Von Kaiser in under a minute - KO Von Kaiser with only 5 punches
Glass Joe challenges: - knock him down three times, but let him win by decision - find the one-punch knockout - win a fight without dodging/blocking/ducking
- camera zooms in as you beat up your opponent - pressing the minus button between rounds will regain health. This is allowed once per fight, you’ll see a visual confirmation of the button press when Doc Louis eats a chocolate bar - lose 100 times and earn the training helmet to make you invincible - you can also tap 1 and 2 to regain health after being knocked down - depleted heart meter means you can’t punch - special mode unlocked after you beat the game (details are secret) http://gonintendo.com/?p=79511
Well these are some nice additions.The challenges are going to bring a nice element to the game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2009, 03:41:10 PM
I find that training helmet interesting. Sounds like it is a fair compromise between the casual players and the more "hardcore" players.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on April 17, 2009, 03:50:10 PM
I find that training helmet interesting. Sounds like it is a fair compromise between the casual players and the more "hardcore" players.
100 losses though? if i was a casual player in the sense most people here see it as (ie. dumb) i'd never stick with the game to get that many losses. I'd pop in wii fit and jog with a cute puppy instead, ya can't lost at that!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 17, 2009, 03:56:14 PM
EasyCure you make an interesting point. Say you are playing the game and you are playing the game. You make it to the final boxer and you keep on trying to beat the last guy.You can't seem to beat him/her.So you keep on trying and trying.The drive to win will keep you trying and trying until you beat him/her.There are bound to be lots of losses.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2009, 03:56:52 PM
I find that training helmet interesting. Sounds like it is a fair compromise between the casual players and the more "hardcore" players.
100 losses though? if i was a casual player in the sense most people here see it as (ie. dumb) i'd never stick with the game to get that many losses. I'd pop in wii fit and jog with a cute puppy instead, ya can't lost at that!
Or maybe it is for people like me that felt like throwing their controller through the TV in Punch-Out and Super Punch-Out after getting massacred by one guy.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: vudu on April 17, 2009, 03:57:20 PM
This game is sounding better and better. I ragged on it earlier for having a limited number of competitors, but adding challenges and additional features make the game a little meatier.
Definitely looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 17, 2009, 03:57:28 PM
I just know some fans are going to squeal about the helmet. But really, will you try to lose 100 times in a row? You play to win. Also, the helmet would be kind of insulting if you need it to win so I think it seems fair and balanced.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2009, 03:58:08 PM
I just know some fans are going to squeal about the helmet. But really, will you try to lose 100 times in a row? You play to win. Also, the helmet would be kind of insulting if you need it to win so I think it seems fair and balanced.
Give me the helmet! Revenge will be mine. ;)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2009, 03:58:46 PM
I do find it hilarious how one of the challenges is to knock Glass Joe down 3 times but still let him win.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on April 17, 2009, 03:59:26 PM
The challenges sound like an awesome addition to the game.
EDIT: 6 people posted before I finished writing that sentence. GP, you posted 3 times!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2009, 04:00:07 PM
I find that training helmet interesting. Sounds like it is a fair compromise between the casual players and the more "hardcore" players.
100 losses though? if i was a casual player in the sense most people here see it as (ie. dumb) i'd never stick with the game to get that many losses. I'd pop in wii fit and jog with a cute puppy instead, ya can't lost at that!
Or maybe it is for people like me that felt like throwing their controller through the TV in Punch-Out and Super Punch-Out after getting massacred by one guy.
that just sounds like you'd start losing on purpose in order to rack up enough losses to gain the helmet.
EasyCure you make an interesting point. Say you are playing the game and you are playing the game. You make it to the final boxer and you keep on trying to beat the last guy.You can't seem to beat him/her.So you keep on trying and trying.The drive to win will keep you trying and trying until you beat him/her.There are bound to be lots of losses.
Im sure someone dedicated would keep going back for more, but when we talk about "casual" players here, its usually associated for "grandmas" and whatnot. Those are the people i don't see getting 100 losses because if they're stuck on the same fight, they'll give up and eventually forget about the game.
For core players who might not be very good i can see this being a good leg up. They'll be the ones who migh get frustrated, put the game down for a week, but come back to it and who knows.. maybe they'll suffer some more losses and start the cycle over again. Eventually they might rack up enough losses to get the Helmet and have incentive to kepe playing the game.
All the "hardcore" players though won't have to worry about it cuz they're uber 1337 and don't ever lose, so they'll NEVER see the helmet ;) In all honesty, i'd probably fall into that second category; a core gamer who wouldn't be that good at the game, since i've never owned Punch Out! before.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2009, 04:06:26 PM
Well in my experience PUnch-Out has always had a strange addicting quality to it even if you can only get so far, even with more casual gamers. So it is tough to say.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 17, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
Well I don't really agree with you about the casual point EasyCure.
Anyway the helmet I've heard is optional so you can put it on if you want to.It isn't thrust upon you and can't take it off once you get your 100th loss.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2009, 04:39:28 PM
Well I don't really agree with you about the casual point.
Anyway the helmet I've heard is optional so you can put it on if you want to.It isn't thrust upon you and can't take it off once you get your 100th loss.
Are you talking to me? How can you disagree with something I've personally witnessed with Punch-Out?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 17, 2009, 04:46:55 PM
GP I was talking to EasyCure.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2009, 04:49:09 PM
Glass Joe challenges: - win a fight without dodging/blocking/ducking
If it's anything like the first game, this will be the easiest challenge in the game...
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- knock him down three times, but let him win by decision
...and this will be the hardest! I don't think he even attacked often enough to knock you down in the first round.
Ultimate Party Bear I think the second one could be solved by knocking him out once per round but letting him beat you the rest of the time.Take his hits.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2009, 05:08:29 PM
Yeah the way that challenge is worded seems to indicate it doesn't have to occur in the first round (besides wouldn't that be a TKO if he gets knocked down 3 tmes in one round?).
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 17, 2009, 05:11:50 PM
Yes It would be a TKO if you knocked out your foe if it happened in one round.:)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 17, 2009, 05:16:54 PM
I mentioned the first round only to point out how rarely Glass Joe even throws punches, i.e. not enough to even knock you down once by the end of the first round. As I recall, he gets fairly aggressive at the start of the third round, but who knows what he'll really be like in the new game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on April 17, 2009, 10:00:29 PM
Giving you invincibility is taking it too far. The helmet should just make you take half damage or something, effectively creating an "easy" mode, not a "automatic win" mode. That's boring.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 17, 2009, 10:07:09 PM
Giving you invincibility is taking it too far. The helmet should just make you take half damage or something, effectively creating an "easy" mode, not a "automatic win" mode. That's boring.
Well you have the option of not using it.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on April 17, 2009, 10:09:04 PM
Yeah but I wanted an option to make the game easier. Is there any word of a difficulty select?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 17, 2009, 10:58:28 PM
Yeah but I wanted an option to make the game easier. Is there any word of a difficulty select?
I haven't seen anything about difficulty settings.I'll look around.Nope no confirmation of Different difficulty settings yet.
doesn't rule out it being unlockable. Maybe after 5000 losses you get an easy mode :p
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 18, 2009, 01:28:53 PM
Heh who knows EasyCure. Anyway there is going to be a title defense mode.As one might expect once you beat the game you can go up against the boxers again.They will have different tactics from their previous fight.Its like fighting an all new person. Http://gonintendo.com/?p=79620
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on April 18, 2009, 01:47:33 PM
WIN
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on April 18, 2009, 03:48:22 PM
Anyway there is going to be a title defense mode.As one might expect once you beat the game you can go up against the boxers again.They will have different tactics from their previous fight.Its like fighting an all new person.
It sounds like this is basically a hard mode. Maybe the first time around won't be so difficult.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 20, 2009, 02:32:01 AM
This game will be great for exercise.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 22, 2009, 01:37:17 PM
Uh oh, old school NES-pad purist lamers don't like exercise.
All the Gerstmanns this generation make me furious.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 24, 2009, 11:51:40 PM
In the most recent 1up "Listen up" podcast they say that Piston Honda is going to be in the game. Here is that info (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=80430) Also in a recent ad for the game it has Bald Bull on the ad. Here is the ad (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=80260)
So the confirmed boxers are Glass Joe,Von Keiser,King Hippo,Disco Kid,Don Flamenco,Bear Hugger,Bald Bull and Piston Honda.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 03, 2009, 03:10:54 AM
Looks like the first review has been released from the Official Nintendo Magazine UK. The full review was posted here.
http://highdefgeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=8795
According to the review the game sounds like it turned out great. The normal mode they say is really easy but once you unlock the hard mode it becomes rage inducing old school arcade difficulty. In other words, it does a good job of appealing to newcomers as well as appealing to the long time fans.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Dasmos on May 03, 2009, 05:39:13 AM
This is good news.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 03, 2009, 07:04:46 AM
Yeah it is.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 03, 2009, 07:10:14 PM
A lot of people will be eating crow once this game is released. It seems that Next Level Games has created a game so solid, so robust and so appealing to both older gamers and casual gamers that there really isn't anything to complain about. And those that do are merely complaining for the sake of it.
I am concerned, however, that the review says nothing about the supposed balance board support. I think it WAS a rumor that ran amock.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on May 03, 2009, 08:49:38 PM
I am concerned, however, that the review says nothing about the supposed balance board support. I think it WAS a rumor that ran amock.
If reviewers weren't even aware that Excitebots has online play, we can't be so sure they aren't overlooking the Balance Board support in this game.
I expected that the "normal" round would be easy and the unlockable mode would be the hard one the series is known for. With Metroid Prime 3's "normal" mode actually being the easy mode, it's a trend with games as of late. The only complaint I can envision about that is that you can't play the "hard' mode right away.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 04, 2009, 01:36:05 AM
A lot of people will be eating crow once this game is released. It seems that Next Level Games has created a game so solid, so robust and so appealing to both older gamers and casual gamers that there really isn't anything to complain about. And those that do are merely complaining for the sake of it.
The thing that worry's me though is that some of the reviewers might be too stupid to play the hard mode or try the exhibition mode challenges and as a result will mark the game down for being too short and easy with no replay value, even though the game isn't. Which as a result could end up misinforming a lot of gamers, who will then complain about the game, even though they haven't even played it.
Just like how I remember a lot of Wario Land Shake reviews said the game only had 20 levels and there was no replay value after beating it. Which was a complete lie since there was 12 hidden levels to unlock after beating it, not to mention trying to collect all the treasures and trying to complete the stage missions in that game added a huge amount of replay value.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Spinnzilla on May 04, 2009, 01:54:07 PM
The thing that worry's me though is that some of the reviewers might be too stupid to play the hard mode or try the exhibition mode challenges and as a result will mark the game down for being too short and easy with no replay value, even though the game isn't. Which as a result could end up misinforming a lot of gamers, who will then complain about the game, even though they haven't even played it.
Like the nintendo IGN team? They were complaining about that last podcast.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 04, 2009, 02:48:08 PM
The more i hear about this game, the more i want to buy it.
Thing is, I've never owned a Punch-Out!! title before. I say owned because i remember seeing the game played on an NES at my brothers friends house when i was reeeeeally little, and i remember seeing the arcade Punch-Out!! at the local arcade years ago... i just don't remember if i ever PLAYED it lol.
Is a VC purchase in for me to get the most out of this new wii title??
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 04, 2009, 02:52:20 PM
The more i hear about this game, the more i want to buy it.
Thing is, I've never owned a Punch-Out!! title before. I say owned because i remember seeing the game played on an NES at my brothers friends house when i was reeeeeally little, and i remember seeing the arcade Punch-Out!! at the local arcade years ago... i just don't remember if i ever PLAYED it lol.
Is a VC purchase in for me to get the most out of this new wii title??
For $5 I'd say you should definitely get Punch-Out!!. I think it could really help you appreciate the new game more.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 04, 2009, 03:48:50 PM
is Super Punch-Out!! on the VC service yet?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 04, 2009, 03:57:45 PM
Yes but I'd recommend Punch-Out!! over that because the new game is going to be more in line with the first game then the second.
Gotcha. I plan on beating Scarface (Wii edition) tonight, then going back to Madworld and finishing that since i hear its pretty short (i'm probably in the third level or so) so after those two, i might just squeeze in time for the original PO before the new one comes out. I better like it!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 05, 2009, 06:26:46 PM
Nintendo World Store hosting Punch-out Compitation (http://Http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2009/05/05/compete-for-punch-out-title-at-nintendo-world/)
Who:Adults,teens,kids ages 10 and up,Punch-Out and videogame enthusiust.
When:Saturday May 16th 2009 1-4 pm Where:Nintendo World Store 10 Rockafeller Plaza New York,NY 10020
Visuals: 1 winner will win the WVBA trophy Fans will recieve Nintendo premiums and can play the Wii game Event photography and Punch Out W!! gameplay will be avalable.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 05, 2009, 06:41:11 PM
Nintendo World Store hosting Punch-out Compitation (http://Http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2009/05/05/compete-for-punch-out-title-at-nintendo-world/)
Who:Adults,teens,kids ages 10 and up,Punch-Out and videogame enthusiust.
When:Saturday May 16th 2009 1-4 pm Where:Nintendo World Store 10 Rockafeller Plaza New York,NY 10020
Visuals: 1 winner will win the WVBA trophy Fans will recieve Nintendo premiums and can play the Wii game Event photography and Punch Out W!! gameplay will be avalable.
I might go. If anything it'll be an excuse to try the game out before buying it, see if its worth an immidiate purchase or if i can wait out and spend time catching up on my other games.
If Pale goes, i'll be sure to go though. I missed out on meeting him for the Mario Kart Wii event they held there, cuz he wasn't sure if he was going and i ended up oversleeping lol. Pale, don't forget the bucket hat if you do go!
If I do end up going, i'll try to take a ton of photos for NWR too.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on May 06, 2009, 04:49:18 PM
Ya...you should probably VC first before going into this. Just from the videos, I can tell it'll definitely be helpful to first play the original and/or super punch out. Also, that way you would played the evolution of it.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 06, 2009, 04:53:17 PM
I'm surprised nobodies posted these new video's yet.
Ya...you should probably VC first before going into this. Just from the videos, I can tell it'll definitely be helpful to first play the original and/or super punch out. Also, that way you would played the evolution of it.
Thats a good tip, but i might go just for the photo opps and not to try the game out (extensively) so it wouldn't matter if i play the other PO titles or not.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: ShyGuy on May 06, 2009, 09:15:29 PM
I've decided to protest this game until Nintendo confirms Trace Memory Wii is coming to the US.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Peachylala on May 07, 2009, 04:36:49 PM
Realize you are the only one who will do that, ShyGuy. I want that game too. :(
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 07, 2009, 05:10:24 PM
Wow, the commercial for the game is great. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaL8HqufFI
I don't really like it because it doesn't have much gameplay footage.
Normally I'd agree, but the clip was pretty darn funny, so it didn't bother me. Besides, we don't need anymore footage, the game will be out soon enough.
Wow, the commercial for the game is great. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaL8HqufFI
I don't really like it because it doesn't have much gameplay footage.
Normally I'd agree, but the clip was pretty darn funny, so it didn't bother me. Besides, we don't need anymore footage, the game will be out soon enough.
they should have gotten Carl Winslow ( Reginald VelJohnson ) for Doc Louis.
I guess you haven't seen him recently. He is waaay to big to play Doc Louis. I just finished watching Chuck season 2 and he is in one of the episodes, so trust me when I say that the guy they chose was a much much better choice. I think they did a real good job with the casting.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 11, 2009, 04:56:54 PM
they should have gotten Carl Winslow ( Reginald VelJohnson ) for Doc Louis.
I guess you haven't seen him recently. He is waaay to big to play Doc Louis. I just finished watching Chuck season 2 and he is in one of the episodes, so trust me when I say that the guy they chose was a much much better choice. I think they did a real good job with the casting.
I disagree, i think they should've used Ralph Macchio for Lil Mac
kidding, it woulda made it looked like Rocky 5
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 11, 2009, 05:36:13 PM
I added the offical site to the original post.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 14, 2009, 01:05:13 AM
Well we now know the official character lineup. Someone on Neo Gaf has gotten an early copy and has even posted pictures to prove it.
Circuit 1:
- Glass Joe - Von Kaiser - Disco Kid - King Hippo
Circuit 2:
- Piston Hondo - Bear Hugger - Great Tiger - Don Flamenco
Circuit 3:
- Aran Ryan - Soda Popinski - Bald Bull - Super Macho Man
Final Fight:
- Mr. Sandman
And in case anyone is wondering why Mr. Sandman is the final boss, it looks like it's a tribute to the original Punch-Out arcade. In the original arcade, Mr. Sandman was the final opponent you faced. So it actually works quite well.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 14, 2009, 06:00:32 AM
I was just looking around for info on the balance board situation. There is PAL box art that shows on the back of the case that the balance board is supported. Any staff members or Europeans want to confirm this.
IGN's Craig Harris gives the game a GREAT 8.8/10. Can't wait!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 15, 2009, 08:36:16 PM
NP gave it a 8.5
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Ian Sane on May 16, 2009, 12:46:56 AM
Well I read IGN's review. Sounds like it's worth buying so I'll get it. But only ONE new character? The game controls best with the NES controller setup? It sounds like this is EXACTLY what I feared it would be - a sequel that stays WAY too close to the original. It honestly sounds like Super Punch-Out is the more advanced game and that was released 15 years ago. After all this time I wanted more.
Now, hey, it's a new Punch-Out game and it sounds great and worth owning. But after all this time we deserve much more than what sounds to me like a cookie cutter sequel with 3D visuals. Nintendo is capable of better.
Hopefully I can actually find a copy on the release date. Monday's a holiday here in BC and it would be cool to have the whole day to play this.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 16, 2009, 12:51:06 AM
8.8 is the sucks. I R predictable. Seriously it is sad when a game is getting praised like crazy and Nintendo is lazy now because they stuck closer to the formula that MORE people seem to love, including myself. Maybe Nintendo didn't go the Super Punch-Out!! route because they felt others weren't nearly as impressed with that game? Nah, it has be because they are lazy! I mean all they did was provide the game with some amazing personal, tons of replay value via fun challenges/unlockables, multiplayer mode, and a WHOLE NEW second quest which flips everything on its head that has NEVER been done before in the series.
But I guess since it retains the mechanics of the original game and shows respect towards it, it is Punch-Out!! with pretty graphics right? Let's forget how it leap frogs BOTH console games in regards to features. But I guess since Ian doesn't like the original Punch-Out!! no one should be happy with this game and the re imagining of some of our favorite characters. I know I HATED the Super Punch-Out!! roster besides a couple of fighters (along with the classic ones). These characters are far from carbon copies of their original versions either, they are re imagined and imbued with what appears to be some tremendous personality, animation and interaction. The familiar is made new again.
Then:
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I was afraid that Punch-Out would have lousy motion controls and I'm GLAD they're offering a traditional method. Let the fools have their waggle.
Now:
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The game controls best with the NES controller setup? It sounds like this is EXACTLY what I feared it would be - a sequel that stays WAY too close to the original.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 16, 2009, 12:56:04 AM
1up's been pretty Nintendo-friendly recently, and that continues with their Punch-Out review...A+, also known as the highest possible score on their scale (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3174243&p=44).
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 16, 2009, 12:59:37 AM
Ian I have a few questions for you.Do you have a balance board? Are you going to start out NES style and not try out the other control setups?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 16, 2009, 01:03:37 AM
Ian I have a few questions for you.Do you have a balance board? Are you going to start out NES style and not try out the other control setups?
ROFL I can answer both of those, NO.
It couldn't hurt to ask.
Anyway I'm probably going to try out the balance board first.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on May 16, 2009, 01:49:50 AM
If I got this game I would use the motion controls, because I mean seriously that's what the Wii is all about right? They might take some getting used to but I'm not going to allow myself to wimp out and use the NES-style controls. It's like when I got Mario Super Sluggers, the motion controls felt kind of disconnected so I started using the NES-style controls. After a while I decided they were no fun, so I forced myself to use the motion controls. Now I can't imagine using anything else, they are just so satisfying.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 16, 2009, 09:46:08 AM
Tomorrow is that compatition at the Nintendo World Store. Who plans on going?
i'll be checking it out. dont think i'l participate in the tourney since theres no way i'd win, but i'll check it out and post some pics here. probably wont get to post them till tomorrow lol
edit: im on the 1 train into the city now, i'll post some impressions if i do get to play the game. hell i'll post impressions of how others play the game since im there.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 16, 2009, 01:44:51 PM
Wooo its packed and hot in here!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 16, 2009, 02:11:54 PM
Did you meet up with anyone at NWR EasyCure?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 16, 2009, 05:29:33 PM
You mean did I meet up with anyone at NWS from NWR?
No, wasn't aware anyone else was going. Pretty lame event actually. I'll post more when I get off the train.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 16, 2009, 05:34:09 PM
Yeah thats what I meant.nron10, one of the staff was there. He put up a blog about going yesterday.
ok can't wait.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 16, 2009, 10:22:19 PM
I am really excited for this game now that it is getting great reviews all around. It sounds like the perfect game for fans of the original who may have liked Super Punch-Out!! but it was not a favorite of theirs (My guess is that more people prefer the original to the SNES one which few people seemed to have played). The challenges should be a blast to complete.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_Neal on May 16, 2009, 10:39:17 PM
You mean did I meet up with anyone at NWS from NWR?
No, wasn't aware anyone else was going. Pretty lame event actually. I'll post more when I get off the train.
I was there, too.
It was pretty lame, but I was the second person who did the trivia at the end of round one of the tournament. I won a pink hoodie and a copy of the game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Peachylala on May 16, 2009, 10:45:59 PM
Considering that the same company who thought people dressed up as Pikmins in NY made up the same events, I'm not surprised.
(yes, I still remember that)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 17, 2009, 02:25:55 AM
I am so intrigued as to who is the last secret boxer in the title defense mode. Everybody has sworn secrecy on that, so it better be funny, shocking or awesome.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 17, 2009, 02:30:42 AM
You mean did I meet up with anyone at NWS from NWR?
No, wasn't aware anyone else was going. Pretty lame event actually. I'll post more when I get off the train.
I was there, too.
It was pretty lame, but I was the second person who did the trivia at the end of round one of the tournament. I won a pink hoodie and a copy of the game.
Hm iwe probably passed eachother once or twice and didn't even know it. I really should check out the staff blogs more!
The event was pretty lame, and I felt the staff didn't really try hard enough to pump up the crowd. I recognized half the staff from my time there and out of all of them, only one had the kinda energy needed to be a hypeman (the guy with the red Ryu bandana, I'm sure nron10 saw him). All by himself though, he looked like a crazy man lol... poor Mike :(
I might of had a better time if I was familiar with the series, but I'm not. The trivia was all greek to me so I didn't bother, and I didn't get any hands on time with the game either. It sure looked fun though. My girlfriend and I picked up some merch and left the event maybe an hour after getting there, and walked up and down this awesome street fair just a few blocks away from NWS.
I took a few pics which I'll try to post later Sunday for all to enjoy. Besides the awesome merch I picked up, the other good thing to come out of today was that I downloaded Punch Out! On my wii via VC and am enjoying the game! After winning the Minor Circuit and seeing Lil Mac running down the streets of a pixelated Bronx, NY in his all pink outfit.. I realized why this one kid at the tourney wore the same outfit, and how out of the loop I was there amongst real fans :(
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 17, 2009, 02:42:32 AM
I got to start playing Punch Out again. I'm stuck on Another World Circuit. Can't get past Mr.Sandman.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 17, 2009, 03:24:42 AM
Please use spoiler tags!!!
Also, I think that I'm going to have nightmares (http://i44.tinypic.com/2quteg8.jpg)
That's RMC from Gonintendo
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 17, 2009, 10:38:08 AM
Flames, I think Maxi was talking about the original Punch-Out, unless he got Punch-Out Wii early.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 17, 2009, 10:41:47 AM
Pap you are right I am talking about the original.Besides you guys already know most of the roster for the Wii game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 17, 2009, 10:44:45 AM
OH NOES MAXI SPOILED PUNCH OUT NES! NOW I KNOW THAT MIKE TYSON IS THE LAST GUY!!!
:p
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 17, 2009, 10:50:38 AM
Well EasyCure just DLed the VC version of the original so maybe we should use spoiler tags.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 17, 2009, 11:31:03 AM
OH NO PAP SPOILED IT I HAD NO IDEA MIKE TYSON WAS THE LAST GUY IN MIKE TYSON'S PUNCH OUT AND WAS LATER REPLACED WITH MR. DREAM!
thanks for looking out maxi ;)
i finally got passed Great Tiger and then lost to Bald Bull.. sigh
games a blast though, and yes i am reffering to the original.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on May 17, 2009, 04:23:56 PM
AERIS DIES!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 17, 2009, 05:16:29 PM
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 17, 2009, 05:22:58 PM
I can only afford to buy 5 Wii games in the next month and a half and this doesn't make the cut, but I will probably try to rent it on GameFly and if I really like it I may end up spending money i don't have to keep it.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 17, 2009, 07:47:24 PM
BTW there is one other new boxer and it is a shocker in Punch-Out!!, supposedly he is the boss of the Title Defense mode. It is:
Donkey Kong!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Peachylala on May 17, 2009, 08:47:18 PM
Here's a spoiler: MERYL MERRIES PANTS SHITTER IN MGS4.
And Rosalina is that kid in her storybook.
God I love randomness.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on May 17, 2009, 11:03:06 PM
Man Little Mac got wailed on by a Giant Monkey. I find that funny. The ending was perfect for the character.
How long before someone claims this is a racist immitation of Mike Tyson as the games final boss? and is serious about it
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 18, 2009, 11:47:47 AM
I posted some pics of the NWS tourney in the Staff Blog thread on that topic, so here i'm going to post the more random shots i took from that same trip:
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/DSC00476.jpg) Giant DSi on the outside of NWS. Cute!
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/DSC00479.jpg) Know how hard it is to see all this stuff and NOT buy it? Not that I didn't buy anything at all...
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/DSC00483.jpg) Sadly this ISN'T what i bought :(
Once i left NWS, my girlfriend and I went to some street fair we noticed on the way TO the NWS. There were alot of the same types of tents selling thigns like sunglasses, clothes, jewelry, etc. But this one had something completely different..
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/DSC00493.jpg) Recycled Metal Art! How cool are these!?
Oh and it wouldn't be a day in Manhattan without seeing some weirdos
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/DSC00498.jpg) I wish i had a better shot, he had batman logo's all over his front side, and he was muttering something as he walked his bike down the street.. odd.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/DSC00525.jpg) Made me think of Okami and how i really need to play that game again.. or rather, start playing it again.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/DSC00529.jpg) This one was right at the end of our trip, right outside the steps to the subway station. I thought it was cute.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/DSC00537.jpg) Sorry gotta catch this train
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/DSC00547.jpg) This one looks like Gort to me..
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/DSC00549.jpg) This is back in my home town, where if you look closely enough you can see this cop texting on his phone WHILE DRIVING.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Ian Sane on May 18, 2009, 06:47:06 PM
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Ian I have a few questions for you.Do you have a balance board? Are you going to start out NES style and not try out the other control setups?
Having the balance board would require me to buy Wii Fit so no, I don't have one. I will likely start out NES style but will try out the other control options.
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Seriously it is sad when a game is getting praised like crazy and Nintendo is lazy now because they stuck closer to the formula that MORE people seem to love, including myself.
If Nintendo just sticks close to formulas that people love then we would just get Mega Man style cookie cutter sequels. The Lost Levels would be the norm for Nintendo sequels instead of the exception. Nintendo has traditionally been the company that raises the bar with their sequels. They're the guys that either stuff each sequel with tons of new content or try some different things out and change things around while still retaining the basic feel of the series. Only one new character and gameplay practically lifted from the NES game? That is lazy. Any moderately competent dev with a decent budget and realistic release deadline can do that. With Nintendo I expect more. That's what makes Nintendo sequels special.
If it was just More Super Punch-Out with 3D graphics and optional waggle I would also be disappointed even though that's the style I prefer. It should have a good mix of familiar and new characters and should change things around a bit. Like how the other two console Punch-Outs are similar but different from each other so too should this game be similar but different from them.
Wasn't able to find the game today. I guess Canada is getting it a few days later like normal. I should expect it yet it bums me out every time because then I'm always behind and any discussion about the game is full of spoilers from people who have had a good couple extra days to get further.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 18, 2009, 06:54:20 PM
Ian I want you to make a video of you playing with motion controls and upload it on your youtube account.
Ian I think I saw a release date of the 20th for Canada.
Also Ian this whole topic is a big spoiler.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on May 18, 2009, 07:37:10 PM
Yeah it is quite ridiculous... although I guess this explains why he uses a boxing glove as a bat in Mario Super Sluggers. He was fine-tuning his punches in preparation for this.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Caliban on May 18, 2009, 11:40:59 PM
Wasn't able to find the game today. I guess Canada is getting it a few days later like normal.
*facepalm* It's Victoria day. Everyone is closed, so it's most likely that you will be able to get the game tomorrow.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 19, 2009, 11:43:30 AM
Donkey Fisting
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 19, 2009, 04:55:54 PM
Well when I get home tonight I'll finally get to play it. I can't wait, it sounds like the best game for Wii in quite awhile (not to mention one of the best games period in 2009). Sounds like a fantastic successor to Punch-Out!! with both old and new. CANNOT WAIT!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 19, 2009, 05:00:41 PM
What exactly happens when you "cannot wait"? Do you fly off the handle? Get the game and start playing it earlier than you planned?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 19, 2009, 05:04:22 PM
well, turns out that this isn't "my first punch out" after all. it's pretty durn hard actually.
Yeah it is Rize. Depnding on what type of controls you have it can be fairly challenging to really hard.
I played with the Balance board and that control setup is the hardest. I tried Wiimote/Nunchuck and that is a bit easier than the balance board but still challenging. I would imagine that the NES controls is the easiest. This game is great. The Music is great. The different fighters pose a nice change of pace each fight.I recommend this title to everyone.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 20, 2009, 04:21:33 AM
I managed to get to Great Tiger and wow does he scare me. I thought I'd do fine with him since I can EASILY get by him in Punch-Out!! but he plays with my mind so much! To anyone that thinks this game was going to be easy, think again, I can't imagine what the Title Defense mode is like! If you like Punch-Out!! you will love this game, so much personality, high production values, challenging, great sound (I love how they mix in the classic sound effects), and above all else it is a blast to play. So far I think it is the BEST, yes the BEST, Punch-Out!! game.
Next-Level and Nintendo should be proud with the final product, and with the somewhat lackluster reception the new Bionic Commando game is getting, it seems to reinforce Nintendo's stance on keeping the game, in gameplay mechanics, as close to the original as possible while still creating a great title for a new generation.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Dasmos on May 20, 2009, 05:59:48 AM
I bet Super Punch Out!! is still the best, but this'll be better than the forever overrated Mike Tyson's Garbage Time!! This still needs to get a Aussie release date, I can't be bothered importing.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 20, 2009, 06:47:58 AM
Oh my god, this game is fucking amazing. I am having a blast working through all of the boxers in the game. I played a whole bunch of career mode yesterday and made it up to the second to last boxer. BY far my favorite bout in the game thus far was versus Aran Ryan. He didn't have much character in SPO, but now... just wow. Dude was off the wall, and the manner in which you fought him was so counter-intuitive, it was crazy.
I also spent some time messing with the Exhibition Mode which is also very cool. You can hone your skills on your current challenger, or take on boxers you've already crushed. All of those boxers now have three objectives tied to them for you to accomplish which unlocks some stuff. I did all of the Glass Joe challenges which were all very inventive, and very fun to accomplish.
I'm actually ridiculously excited to go home and play more, the game is that good. This has easily become one of my favorite Wii games over the course of a single day.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: bosshogx on May 20, 2009, 09:09:45 AM
Picked mine up yesterday and had a friend graciously let me borrow his Wii while mine is being repaired. I finished the Minor Circuit and quit after getting bested twice by The Great Tiger. I'm fairly certain I got his pattern down, but was too tired to keep playing. I completed all of the exhibition challenges against Glass Joe, which proved to be more challenging than I thought.
My only minor gripe thus far, no subtitles. I want to know what they are saying. :)
Taking the boxer stereotypes to the next level. Remember kids, it's just a joke. :D
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Sundoulos on May 20, 2009, 09:11:00 AM
Grrr...I'm still waiting for Amazon to send my copy. I'm glad to hear that everyone is having so much fun with the game. Like many others, I was disappointed when I heard about the final roster, but the things I'm reading here are very encouraging.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on May 20, 2009, 09:51:07 AM
Picked it up last night and I'm definitely hooked (no pun intended). Here are some quick impressions thus far:
Loved - Character animations, much more fluid than previous versions - New ring for each circuit, keeps things fresh - Combining stars together for one huge punch - Sounds effects = AWESOME - KO animations - Defending the title, great addition
Annoying - No classic controller support, I've got huge thumbs, and the Wiimote D pad is so tiny - Only tracks your top time for each character instead of top ten as in the SNES version - Motion controlled menus - Lil Mac tires out from punching where as in the last version he tired from getting punched - No rapid fire punching as in the last version
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 20, 2009, 10:20:35 AM
I curious what control setup everybody is using.
Well last night I made it to Soda Popinski. Whatever you do don't hit him with a star.He will counter attack quickly with 2 devastating uppercuts.
Most people have a hard time with Great Tiger There is certain counters to his moves that you can do. Experiment with them.
Aran Ryan is a jerk. Watch out for his headbutt.If you just counter punch after he makes his move then you aren't going to make much headway. Got to beat him to the punch.
I haven't played much exhibition mode but it is a nice addition.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_Neal on May 20, 2009, 10:56:57 AM
- Lil Mac tires out from punching where as in the last version he tired from getting punched
I'm pretty sure that comes back from MTPO. You get tired when you throw a punch and it gets blocked.
Definitely. And I'm sure thats why they reverted to it as this is more of a remake of the original rather than an iterative release.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 20, 2009, 12:01:30 PM
I said I almost purchased this yesterday but bought a belated mothers day gift of EA Active instead. After reading the impressions here,I think I'm gonna byte the bullet and go get this today. thanx for continuing to make my wallet cry.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 20, 2009, 12:16:13 PM
Amazon has it for $40 BnM, if you don't mind waiting.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on May 20, 2009, 12:20:50 PM
Also forgot to mention the lack of online leader boards. Thats where this game really has its legs, going for faster times. The lack of this feature is simple inexcusable.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 20, 2009, 12:27:40 PM
Amazon has it for $40 BnM, if you don't mind waiting.
Decisions decisions... I'm trading in my EA Active to go get it at BB instead for the free $10 gift card. But do I spend the $10 gift card on PO now or get it for the same price on Amazon to receive later?
I could use that money($10 gc) for WSR/GST/TW10/Conduit later though
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Sundoulos on May 20, 2009, 12:32:30 PM
Amazon has it for $40 BnM, if you don't mind waiting.
That's why I'm waiting. Normally, even if I elect to use the free shipping option (because I'm really cheap), I normally don't have to wait that long before getting a new game. This time, they're telling me that my shipping date isn't until May 26th. Oh, well...
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Rhoq on May 20, 2009, 12:40:24 PM
Two words: Amazon Prime. Well worth the yearly membership fee, as long as you are a frequent shopper.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on May 20, 2009, 01:17:19 PM
As much as I dislike whoring myself to Gamestop they're offering 20% credit towards any trade ins for Punch Out. I gave them three games I know I'll never play again, and walked out paying a cool $15 for Punch Out.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 20, 2009, 01:31:19 PM
that is a very tempting offer. any trade ins? including GC games?
I could proabably part with 5+ GC games and not miss any of them.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 20, 2009, 01:43:17 PM
I don't think they take GameCube games anymore. I know they stopped taking original Xbox games.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on May 20, 2009, 02:50:13 PM
I'm not sure, doesn't hurt to call, I used a ps3 game and a Wii and DS one.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 20, 2009, 04:39:17 PM
I just returned EA Active(re-bought at BB) and asked about the trade in deal. They take anything they still sell, and gamecube was accepted. So I'm gonna go back there later today with some backlogged games I will never get to
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on May 20, 2009, 05:40:21 PM
I just returned EA Active(re-bought at BB) and asked about the trade in deal. They take anything they still sell, and gamecube was accepted. So I'm gonna go back there later today with some backlogged games I will never get to
Good move. As Punch Out is a game you can log tonz o time into.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on May 20, 2009, 06:02:15 PM
I'm trying to convince my brother to buy this game so that I can try it out. He was a fan of the NES Punch-Out!!, but he's not so keen on Wii (he bought it for his wife... or so he claims).
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 21, 2009, 01:24:48 AM
Well I got past Soda Popenski. The exibition mode is nice help on tough guys.
Now I have to beat Bald Bull. I got to get all of his punches down.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: broodwars on May 21, 2009, 01:51:22 AM
I have to admit, I was never a huge fan of the original Punch Out (I played around with it a little as a kid at a friend's house and found it fun but grew bored after a few fights) so I wasn't really interested in this game leading up to its release. However, today at work a co-worker brought the game in and just tore through the Minor Circuit during his lunch/dinner breaks, and it looked like a lot of fun. Don't know why everyone who had a go at King Hippo lost till late in the day (everyone was getting nailed by his double-fist grab lunge, which I don't understand since it looks like you can obviously hit his stomach to stop it), though...his patterns look pretty simple. Definitely a good party game, based on how everyone watching the game was getting into the vs. mode matches. Still, I might just pick the game up later on if it drops in price a bit. $40-$50 seems a bit steep for a game where it looks like you're doing the same thing over and over again (looks like it could get really repetitive).
Incidentally, one of my co-workers playing the game is black, and his reaction to the Disco boxer was priceless. I found it rather funny that they all had a good laugh over Glass Joe and his flying bread, but got a bit annoyed with the Disco fighter. :P
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 21, 2009, 04:00:07 AM
I think it is funny how some are thinking of this game as some party casual game. Punch-Out!! is about as traditional and "core" as you can get when it comes to challenge, it is very "old school" though like any great core title others can pick it up and enjoy as well. But really this is the most "core" console game when it comes to challenge that we've gotten in a LONG time.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 21, 2009, 04:19:51 AM
He conveniently forgets that video games are repetitive.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 21, 2009, 04:27:33 AM
This game is designed in such a way that I can see getting as much time if not more then any current traditional game. The challenges alone will take a lot to complete, and I am almost scared to see what Title Defense is about! Not to mention the VS mode is quite creative and fun (I love Gigamac and how it turns into a boss battle of sorts, great stuff).
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 21, 2009, 09:06:11 AM
I really want to get this game after all the praise your guys are throwing around, and I do enjoy the original Punch Out on the VC but i still don't think i'm ready for second helping of PO when i haven't finished the first! And if 'Mr. Dream' is as hard as they say he is, i iprobably never will lol.
This is definately on my list of games to get down the line though.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 21, 2009, 09:12:42 AM
Mr.Dream has the same tactics as Mike Tyson. There are several videos on youtube on how to beat Iron Mike.I haven't beat the NES version yet. I am stuck on Mr. Sandman
How far are you EasyCure in the NES game?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 21, 2009, 09:28:37 AM
Mr.Dream has the same tactics as Mike Tyson. There are several videos on youtube on how to beat Iron Mike.I haven't beat the NES version yet. I am stuck on Mr. Sandman
How far are you EasyCure in the NES game?
Bald Bull knocked me the F out in the first round cuz i was sleepy. It was my only match against him, though.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 21, 2009, 09:32:01 AM
Mr.Dream has the same tactics as Mike Tyson. There are several videos on youtube on how to beat Iron Mike.I haven't beat the NES version yet. I am stuck on Mr. Sandman
How far are you EasyCure in the NES game?
Bald Bull knocked me the F out in the first round cuz i was sleepy. It was my only match against him, though.
Heh that is who I am up to on the Wii game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2009, 11:21:11 AM
If you can make it to Mr. Dream (Mike Tyson), you should consider that an accomplishment. Very few people I know actually beat that game, and most of the ones that did had to use a code to go straight to the boss fight(myself included). So don't beat yourself up if you can't seem to finish it.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on May 21, 2009, 11:31:38 AM
If you can make it to Mr. Dream (Mike Tyson), you should consider that an accomplishment. Very few people I know actually beat that game, and most of the ones that did had to use a code to go straight to the boss fight(myself included). So don't beat yourself up if you can't seem to finish it.
Oh trust me I know all about Mike's difficulty, its stuff of legends and any self respecting gamer should fear him. I'm positive this will be one of the games i'll get to the last boss and never beat, and i'm okay with that.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2009, 11:45:19 AM
It got to Iron Mike about 3 times without the code. Got my ass whooped hard and quickly. I had to search out the code to go straight to the Prize Fight. Still took me I don't know how many attempts before I barely beat Mike. Bragging rights where had as I joined the elite few that had actually finished the game, w/ or w/o the code.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: bustin98 on May 21, 2009, 12:22:51 PM
Yay I got my copy of Punch Out. I went through the Minor circuit in 15 minutes. But I only got stars from Glass Joe. I need to slow down and pay attention to the clues.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on May 21, 2009, 02:02:40 PM
I'm stuck on Soda Pop right now.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2009, 02:03:48 PM
As much as I dislike whoring myself to Gamestop they're offering 20% credit towards any trade ins for Punch Out. I gave them three games I know I'll never play again, and walked out paying a cool $15 for Punch Out.
I just returned EA Active(re-bought at BB) and asked about the trade in deal. They take anything they still sell, and gamecube was accepted. So I'm gonna go back there later today with some backlogged games I will never get to
Good move. As Punch Out is a game you can log tonz o time into.
I took 8 GC games to gamestop and and they offered me $10.80 (including 20%?) so I just decided to keep my games. PO will have to wait till another day or I decide to buy it online.
Is there any sort of online in PO? like a leader board or anything like that?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 21, 2009, 02:07:33 PM
As much as I dislike whoring myself to Gamestop they're offering 20% credit towards any trade ins for Punch Out. I gave them three games I know I'll never play again, and walked out paying a cool $15 for Punch Out.
I just returned EA Active(re-bought at BB) and asked about the trade in deal. They take anything they still sell, and gamecube was accepted. So I'm gonna go back there later today with some backlogged games I will never get to
Good move. As Punch Out is a game you can log tonz o time into.
I took 8 GC games to gamestop and and they offered me $10.80 (including 20%?) so I just decided to keep my games. PO will have to wait till another day or I decide to buy it online.
Is there any sort of online in PO? like a leader board or anything like that?
There isn't but I don't think it needs it. Also NWR's review of the game is up.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2009, 02:15:42 PM
I just saw the review, but you don't think the game could be a little more competitive between friends if it included a online leaderboard? Kinda like sending time trials ghost to friends in MKWii, and seeing if they can beat your time, it could extend the replayability of the game indefinitely for some.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 21, 2009, 02:22:00 PM
Well that isn't really disimilar to how there are videos of people beating the bosses in the NES and SNES games quickly. With the videos everybody can see them and see if you beat them.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 21, 2009, 02:29:30 PM
I think the competitive nature will still be present despite the absence of a leaderboard.
Like Maxi said, people will post videos of their best times, trade secrets and tactics to beat the characters.
You will be surprised at how many Punch Out exclusive communities there are in the internet.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on May 21, 2009, 02:46:55 PM
People will post videos, of course, but its a pain in the @ss. In 2009, there is no excuse for lack of online leaderboards in a score or time chasing game. Don't get me wrong, I still love the game, I just get urked when developers make such obvious oversights.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2009, 03:08:04 PM
People will post videos, of course, but its a pain in the @ss. In 2009, there is no excuse for lack of online leaderboards in a score or time chasing game. Don't get me wrong, I still love the game, I just get urked when developers make such obvious oversights.
I agree. Now how hard would it be to be able to click a option that updates your leader board to include the times/scores of your friends? Nintendo wants to take baby steps and protect the children from teh online predatorz, well there is no better baby step than online leaderboards.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 21, 2009, 03:20:46 PM
Leaderboards would only get flooded by hacked scores like all previous leaderboard online Wii games.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: broodwars on May 21, 2009, 03:25:42 PM
Leaderboards would only get flooded by hacked scores like all previous leaderboard online Wii games.
QFT. I don't mind the lack of Online Leaderboards, as I find that just makes people rather unpleasant online. I do mind the lack of Online play at all, though.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 21, 2009, 03:33:49 PM
Yeah, I remember looking at scores for Rayman Rabbids dancing games way back. They were impossibly high for such imprecise controls. Even last night's Mario Kart cheaters continue to bring my opinion of the Nintendo audience down.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on May 21, 2009, 03:39:19 PM
Leaderboards would only get flooded by hacked scores like all previous leaderboard online Wii games.
Nonsense. That's like saying we should ban online banking because it'll just end up flooded with hackers.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 21, 2009, 04:18:58 PM
I don't get to see your bank statements.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2009, 07:49:24 PM
Because of the warm glow and heated discussion this game has brought on(in two different PO threads) I just bought the game on Amazon. will get it sometime next week.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 21, 2009, 07:51:43 PM
Great BlackNMild. What control style are you going to use?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2009, 10:12:35 PM
which ever i feel suits my mood for the game. I haven't played it yet, so I couldn't tell you.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: bosshogx on May 22, 2009, 09:35:26 AM
This exhibition mode challenges are cool. KO Von Kaiser in 5 punches? I think I'm on the right track to figuring it out, but I haven't quite got it yet. Normally when something is too tiresome to figure out I just skip over to Gamefaqs for the answer. Don't give me that look, I don't have near the time to game as I used to and I hate not finishing games.
Punch-Out!! = win!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 22, 2009, 10:00:58 AM
I was a little stumped on that one too, bosshogx. Then I accidentally discovered that if you star punch people when they are doing a pose, it is an instant knock down With that in mind, it made it quite a bit easier to perform those KOs with only a few punches.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on May 22, 2009, 04:41:05 PM
Just got my first "decision win" against Soda. Now on to the Bull!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Caliban on May 22, 2009, 10:48:32 PM
Soda's beating me to a pulp. *sigh*
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 22, 2009, 11:36:59 PM
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Caliban on May 23, 2009, 12:46:37 AM
Without a doubt. All the other boxers were either slow, or had wide movements which made them easier to defeat whether at first or after one training session. I've got his pattern down, but his short movements with speed and power are giving me problems, and for me it looks like I'm going to have to increase my eye-hand coordination response which could mean a bit more of training.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: nickmitch on May 23, 2009, 01:19:35 AM
Did everyone know about the Target-exclusive bundle? I'm not reading this whole thread to find out, but I got it today. $55 and you get a nunchuck.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 23, 2009, 01:29:40 AM
I got it at Target but didn't get the deal.It wasn't there when I got it.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2009, 07:31:12 PM
I got this game today in the mail, as it looks like the Post Office doesn't work on saturdays anymore(well atleast not last saturday).
I almost thought I was about to breeze through the first circuit until I got beat down by King Hippo. Thats when I decided to open the instruction manual and actually look at the controls. After a few exhibition matched against King Hippo, fucked him up in the second round with like 1:30 left.
Started knockin people out left and right, with a small hiccup on Great Tiger, but my ego got checked at Don Flamenco. I don't know why I couldn't get his timing down, but he was helping me find a comfortable spot on the ring floor to take a nap. I must have restarted the 1st round about 10 times before I decided I was ready to fight him for real, and we went all the way till the 3rd round where I won by KO with about 1:00 left on the clock.
Have to take a break because all this punching in my hot as house is making me sweat. Now I'm off to go handle the Big Boys, starting with Aran Ryan.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 27, 2009, 07:53:02 PM
NES controls don't make you sweat =O unless it's Super Gerstmann Punch-Out, Featuring Mr. Couch
something's not right here!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2009, 08:02:16 PM
remote and nunchuck buddy, remote and nunchuck. I was thinking about throwing in some balance board support too, but its just to hot for all that movement. I'll save that for when my sister wants to play and I need a good laugh.
One thing that doesn't seem right though. If I come into the 1st circuit and there are already 4 people in it, one with the title belt, shouldn't I be ranked #5 and not #4? wouldn't the title holder be ranked #1 and the 3rd person under him be ranked #4? cause that would make me, the "new comer" #5 as in the 5th person.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: D_Average on May 27, 2009, 08:07:37 PM
One thing that doesn't seem right though. If I come into the 1st circuit and there are already 4 people in it, one with the title belt, shouldn't I be ranked #5 and not #4? wouldn't the title holder be ranked #1 and the 3rd person under him be ranked #4? cause that would make me, the "new comer" #5 as in the 5th person.
Hmmm... I'm sure they'll update it. Oh wait.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 27, 2009, 08:19:30 PM
I guess you're ranked as the #1 contender.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on May 27, 2009, 08:20:35 PM
One thing that doesn't seem right though. If I come into the 1st circuit and there are already 4 people in it, one with the title belt, shouldn't I be ranked #5 and not #4? wouldn't the title holder be ranked #1 and the 3rd person under him be ranked #4? cause that would make me, the "new comer" #5 as in the 5th person.
Nintendo fails at math. Remember how the Elite Four in Pokémon games always has five members?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 27, 2009, 08:27:36 PM
One thing that doesn't seem right though. If I come into the 1st circuit and there are already 4 people in it, one with the title belt, shouldn't I be ranked #5 and not #4? wouldn't the title holder be ranked #1 and the 3rd person under him be ranked #4? cause that would make me, the "new comer" #5 as in the 5th person.
Nintendo fails at math. Remember how the Elite Four in Pokémon games always has five members?
In Pokemon it is the Elite 4 and the Champion.
Anyway Punch Out!! is awesome.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: blackfootsteps on May 27, 2009, 08:59:42 PM
One thing that doesn't seem right though. If I come into the 1st circuit and there are already 4 people in it, one with the title belt, shouldn't I be ranked #5 and not #4? wouldn't the title holder be ranked #1 and the 3rd person under him be ranked #4? cause that would make me, the "new comer" #5 as in the 5th person.
Title belt holder = Champion Number 1 Contender " " 2 " " " " 3 " " Number 4 Contender = You :)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2009, 09:02:01 PM
Yeah, it made sense after Pro said it, but thanks for making sure it made sense.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: blackfootsteps on May 27, 2009, 09:13:54 PM
Yeah I guess there's an echo in here ;)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2009, 03:31:46 PM
Is it weird that my arms are sore today? I didn't realize that playing punchout was really working me out. Now I'm glad I didn't do any balance board dodging.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 28, 2009, 03:39:43 PM
Is it weird that my arms are sore today? I didn't realize that playing punchout was really working me out. Now I'm glad I didn't do any balance board dodging.
It's awesome this way. Burns actual calories as opposed to playing a PC FPS.
You've noticed by now, that for the motion controls to work effectively (timely) you'd have to react and move your arms as fast as Mac and usually in sync with Mac. Those quick alternations made my biceps sore the next day.
But I didn't PANCH-OUT yesterday, was too busy owning biker fags in Mario Kart. 4-Reggie Gang Assaut ftw.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2009, 05:45:12 PM
I'm lovin this game. The challenge of one boxer at a time. And I take my time to make sure the fight is going my way.
I just beat Soda Popinski for the 1st time and in the 1st round with only 17seconds left.
damn my arms are sore.
so far disappointed so good :thumbsup;
edit: Just beat Blad Bull too thanx to something I remembered from Mike Tysons PO 1st round 30 seconds left!!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Tanookisuit on May 28, 2009, 09:13:49 PM
I almost bought this today. I'm still waist-deep in Rhythm Heaven and Excitebots, but I'm dying to play Punch Out!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 31, 2009, 12:40:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l7LZMaN8f0
Did you guys know there is infinites? The video above shows of some of the combinations to beat some of the boxers without being hit.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 31, 2009, 01:30:29 AM
Damn, I just beat Title Defense Don Flamenco, so I guess this isn't of much use to me anymore. Oh well, cool that you can do it though.
I do use that delayed punch technique often, but never realized with a set pattern you could take it that far.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 05, 2009, 09:40:48 PM
I need some help with Mr. Sandman my first time through. Any tips? Nevermind beat him.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 07, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Has anybody beat Title Defense mode? I have a question about Last Stand Mode.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 07, 2009, 01:59:38 PM
Has anybody beat Title Defense mode? I have a question about Last Stand Mode.Is there a limit to how many times you can lose?Someone is wondering if once you lose 3 times if that is it and can't play Last Stand mode anymore.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: bosshogx on June 08, 2009, 09:55:04 AM
I had to start this game over after my Wii got back from the repair shop. I got all the way to Super Macho Man in just under an hour and lost to him because I forgot about his super punch technique. Oh well, 10-1 ain't a bad start. Back to conquering the exhibition challenges and finding out what secrets the Title Defense mode has cooked up for me.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on June 08, 2009, 11:25:00 AM
So i'm still playin the original Punch Out on Wii's virtual console and i'm still digging it, even if i keep getting my ass handed to me.
After a few weeks without playing it, i got back into the game yesterday and spent a couple of hours on it and finally managed to take down Bald Bull for the second title. I'd only faced him a handful of times because i'd normally end up getting frustrated that i couldnt take down Great Tiger even though i knew his freaking patters by heart. So whenever i would get up to Bald Bull i'd be all nervous and think "oh man, i finally made it this far again, i can't **** up" and down i go.. lol. But i beat him!
Too bad it took so long to do that i forgot what Piston Honda was like, so he kicked my ass plenty the second time around. I finally nailed him and moved on to Soda Popinski and thought i was doing well, but he got a couple of those uppercuts on me and took me down. After 3 or so attempts (on him) i decided to call it a night. The more i play this though, the more eager i am to get Punch Out Wii.. damn i need more time/money!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 16, 2009, 03:21:51 AM
Yo, I have unexpectedly played a ton of the Mutli. I love it. Very strategic, a chess match of the mind with a good friend.
Also lots of yelling.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: kraken613 on June 21, 2009, 07:11:12 PM
I just picked this up! Man its awesome! It feels like Punchout! The graphics and style are awesome and some of the best animations! They just kept what Punchout was about and made a new version and did it well!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: bosshogx on June 22, 2009, 09:23:18 AM
Halfway through TD mode. Up against The Great Tiger and his mutli colored jewel memorization punches.
This was quite hilarious to observe with my partially colorblind friend playing. He was getting so frustrated because he couldn't tell the difference between the blue and white flashes. He thought he was just having to dodge on reaction. It wasn't until I pointed out the white means duck gem flash that he said, "Wait, the gem is flashing white?" For the rest of the match, I had to call out "left, right, or duck". It was a cake walk after that.
:D
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 29, 2009, 06:14:20 PM
This is a picture used on Nintendo's front page. You can't tell it was a boxing game without the caption.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on June 29, 2009, 06:30:30 PM
I'd buy it.
If the art style was a lil more cartooney, i'd swear that was a boss of sorts in "Screwing Mama"
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on June 30, 2009, 10:46:46 PM
So I got something cool in the mail today..
Its a coupon for $10 off this game! At first I thought it was from best buy, and thought it was odd they had my name and address... but turns out its an offer from NOA, even cooler! Did anyone else receive one of these?
This might just be the incentive I need to pick this game up sooner than later.. its valid till the end from july 1st to the end of the month, so I got time. (My guess is NOA sent these out to My Nintendo club members who hadn't registered Punch Out before the start of their new points year, which is tomorrow isn't it? Sneaky bastards...)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: vudu on July 01, 2009, 02:00:54 PM
I got something similar, but a bit different. Mine was in cooperation with Amazon, not Best Buy, and it's only good for $5 off.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on July 01, 2009, 03:45:05 PM
so my coupon pwns your coupon?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: vudu on July 01, 2009, 04:10:40 PM
Probably not. Yours is $10 off $49.99, plus tax. Mine is $5 off $46.99, no tax. In either of our states, mine's better. ;D
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on July 02, 2009, 11:17:34 AM
I hate you vudu
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 02, 2009, 12:46:09 PM
I just got the Amazon coupon in the mail (from NOA). Too bad I've had the game since day one. Anyone want the promo code?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on July 02, 2009, 09:02:11 PM
so i'm still playing the original PO and i'm stuck at Soda Popinski...
i hate his laugh because it reminds me of the stress that came from playing LoZ2 and getting game overs. UGH
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 03, 2009, 12:50:03 AM
Soda Popinski is easy, just dodge that huge uppercut and follow through with some face punches. Super Macho Man will kill you though...and Sandman...and Tyson (punch him when he blinks for stars...he can only be knocked down with star punches).
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on July 03, 2009, 10:12:01 AM
Soda Popinski is easy, just dodge that huge uppercut and follow through with some face punches. Super Macho Man will kill you though...and Sandman...and Tyson (punch him when he blinks for stars...he can only be knocked down with star punches).
Soda Popinski is easy to read, its just by the time i get to him i'm so aggrivated at the game that my frustration messes with my concentration and i make stupid mistakes i wouldn't of made otherwise. The same thing happened with Great Tiger and the secound bout against Piston Honda;
I knew their patterns but i'd make one mistake that'd throw me off, lose, start over frustrated and it'd happen over and over again.
Still hate Soda's Ganon-laugh
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on July 05, 2009, 01:27:09 PM
Ok, so now Mr. Sandman has got me beat. I've dealt with Piston Honda enough now to figure out how to beat him in the first round, so i breeze right thru him. Soda Popinski isn't so bad when i'm NOT trying to figure out how to get stars off him. If i just doge and throw my uppercuts i'll usually get a TKO in the second round, good enough for me!
Then I gotta fight Bald Bull again, and at first i had some trouble cuz i forgot his pattern, but once i remembered it he's a peice o' cake. So easy to get stars off him and knock him down once or twice without him even having to do his charge attack.
To my surprise, Don Flamenco kicked my ass lol... I know i should be very embarrassed by that, and i am. Its just the second time you fight him he moves a lil quicker (from what i remember) and somehow mess up my doges. I'll usually dodge too early and Lil' Mac will slide back to the center just as Don is punching, ugh! Once i decided to be patient with him (soooo annoying) i took him down, no problem.
Then Comes Sandman.. i think i faired well the first time around. I made it to the second round and i was doging his punches fairly easily, minus the 3 quick uppercuts. In the rematch i got slaughtered though, i dunno what happened. He seems simple enough, as long as i figure out how to (successfuly) dodge those 3 uppercuts...
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: bosshogx on July 10, 2009, 02:24:52 PM
I finally beat TD Bald Bull today. I first round TKO with 2 seconds left on the clock. This was after 3 days of trying to figure his patterns and timing out. The things that make him tough are:
-Having to knock him down with a star punch. This puts extra pressure on me not to get hit, thus losing my stars. -Nailing him during a bull charge. I see the timing of it, after he snorts, but I still only land it about 6 out of 10 tries -Getting the timing on the delayed jabs. Even worse is hitting the small window to get a star out of it.
I tried out Super Macho Man in Exhibition mode and was able to get a TKO after only two or three tries. Of course, when you're not taking any damage, things are always easier. :)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 13, 2009, 03:00:38 PM
Nice bosshogx! I'm currently stuck on Bald Bull myself and haven't been motivated enough to try and figure out his pattern well enough to beat him. I may go back soon though and start trying again since it's really bothering me that I got so close to beating the game but didn't accomplish the task.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: SixthAngel on July 14, 2009, 01:44:37 PM
If you are a club Nintendo member get ready to get a special downloadable fight with Doc.
I am only at Aran Ryan (he's beating the stuffing out of me) but I wish I was a club member so I could beat the chocolate bars out of Doc. I like him but sometimes he just needs a beating when he says something like. "What's your favorite flower? Mine's chocolate." SMACK
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on July 14, 2009, 01:56:02 PM
If you are a club Nintendo member get ready to get a special downloadable fight with Doc.
I am only at Aran Ryan (he's beating the stuffing out of me) but I wish I was a club member so I could beat the chocolate out of Doc. I like him but sometimes he just needs a beating when he says something like. "What's your favorite flower? Mine's chocolate." SMACK
Can you post some more info? If this is only available for a limited time i'll run out and buy the game just to not miss out on the experience.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 14, 2009, 01:56:58 PM
see the Club Nintendo thread (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=26917.msg531670#msg531670)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: SixthAngel on July 14, 2009, 02:10:59 PM
I don't think you need to buy Punch Out. It stands on it own.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on July 15, 2009, 11:24:29 AM
I don't think you need to buy Punch Out. It stands on it own.
At first i thought it was some sorta DLC for the game and would possibly expire after some time. Doesn't matter either way cuz i checked my old email, which i happen to have signed up to My Nintendo with, and I'm not eligible because i never made it to platinum (i think..) status.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 02, 2009, 04:31:19 PM
BUMP (on the head!)
Finally got the game, finally got some time with it today,spent the last few hours plowing thru the contender mode. Maaan this game is fun! I only tried the motion controls, sans balance board, for a practice round but then went back to playing NES style. Since I'm still playing the original version, I was just too used to this setup to change. Now that I've beat contender mode, I'll try to complete the title defense mode with motion controls.
Am I the only one currently playing this?? Lol
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 02, 2009, 04:41:25 PM
Yeah I need to get back to this. Currently playing Sonic and the Dark Knight,Animal Crossing:City Folk and The Conduit. Also Pokemon Fire Red.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 02, 2009, 05:19:41 PM
I've actually been good at juggling all my games lately. I thought with PO i'd do a fight per night, but ended up being hooked and plowing through the contender mode. I'll leave title defense bouts to my one match a night schedule, just so I can keep my other games on an even rotation as well... it'll be hard though, this game is addictie!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on August 02, 2009, 05:25:35 PM
I would have continued playing this game if I hadn't let my friend (who's on house arrest) borrow it. Any time I come over we usually play RE4 and try to completely beat Missionary Mode (all characters all 5 star ratings). It's been a blast.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 03, 2009, 12:40:51 AM
I would have continued playing this game if I hadn't let my friend (who's on house arrest) borrow it. Any time I come over we usually play RE4 and try to completely beat Missionary Mode (all characters all 5 star ratings). It's been a blast.
lawl? so who's on top? you or the friend?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on August 03, 2009, 05:30:38 AM
ya, I expected that, but shouldn't you of all people understand in calling things by a different funnier name?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 03, 2009, 04:15:28 PM
He prefers to play RE4 sitting backwards on a chair with his Zapper+ (aka reverse cowgirl) than that standard, boring, missionary mode.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: KDR_11k on August 03, 2009, 04:46:40 PM
I just got Punch Out for 15€ (down from 50) from an insolvent retailer, seems like a good deal.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 03, 2009, 04:58:48 PM
Good deal, indeed.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 03, 2009, 05:20:03 PM
Much better than the lame $10 off i got from Nintendo themselves :( If it weren't for that stupid coupon, i probably wouldn't of gotten the game for another year or so.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 04, 2009, 12:41:08 PM
This isn't a game i'm in a hurry to finish, but I appreciate having it as a means of getting a mild Wii workout bundled with wacky boss challenges.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 04, 2009, 01:05:12 PM
It's too hot to work out :)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 04, 2009, 02:09:32 PM
If you wear a Rambo or Karate Kid headband, you'll be fine.
Many 1980s Heroes wore Headbands.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 04, 2009, 02:12:08 PM
If you wear a Rambo or Karate Kid headband, you'll be fine.
Many 1980s Heroes wore Headbands.
even Solid Snakes unlimited ammo headband can't keep me from sweating bullets I'm asthmatic and me and humid weather+cardio don't mix well
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 06, 2009, 01:46:48 AM
This game is awesome. Seriously Nintendo should just buy Next Level Games as a first party developer because their work so far has been fantastic.
The one thing I love so much about the game is that its the perfect audience game. There's a lot of color, commentary and action going on you can't help but stay focused. I bought the game for my birthday. While I was waiting for my sister to finish dinner I started playing the game and blowing through the first circuit. First it was my nephew who joined when I got to King Hippo. Then, when I got to Bear Hugger my father joined and started commenting on the fight and yelling to watch out for the attacks. By the time I got to Soda Popinski my mother, sister, niece and brother in law had all sat down and started to watch me play and enjoy it greatly.
Disco Kid drew laughs because of his flamboyance, Soda Popinski disturbed with the sloshing sound he made after every punch, Aran Ryan made everyone angry so on and so forth.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 06, 2009, 03:02:29 AM
Yeah, I've been wondering why Nintendo hasn't bought Next Level Games. They've proven that they've got a lot of talent and that they want to work on the Wii.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 06, 2009, 03:18:30 AM
Not to mention that alongside Retro Studios they have used Nintendo's franchises to the fullest. Punch Out takes the franchise to a whole new level, especially with the gameplay options and characters.
Everybody criticized the game for not having enough new characters. While this is somewhat of a con the old characters have been presented in such an amazing way it is forgiven. Seriously I ask anyone to watch a video of Aran Ryan on Super Punch Out, then watch a video of him in Punch Out Wii and the difference is night and day.
The classic characters pretty much became new again, especially with the addition of their title defense personas.
Once again, Nintendo should buy Next Level Games since their work with existing Nintendo franchises has been phenomenal.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on August 06, 2009, 03:41:14 AM
They created Super Mario Stikers and then did the follow up on the Wii.
They're quickly becoming the new Camelot.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 06, 2009, 09:57:43 AM
I had no idea NLG wasn't 1st party. That's news to me!
It'd be nice to have them be backed 100% by nintendo and develop some more awesome games, but they should be allowed to branch out too, so they don't end up like camelot only doing mario sport sequels.
Oh, and I didn't know before hand that NLG was the studio behind this PO, but when I turned the game on and heard the music I knew it was them; very reminiscent of mario strikers sound.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 07, 2009, 09:00:54 PM
Wada: This is a great opportunity, so I have something I'd like to say. In Punch-Out!!, the game gives you a lot of hints about effective timing of punches. There is a big boxer called Bald Bull in the NES version as well and a light flashes to the right in the audience when he charges. If you punch when it flashes you will land a body blow.
Tanabe: What? Really?
Wada: No one has known about that for about 22 years…
Everyone: (laughter)
Wada: I was wondering when I would have a chance to tell people that.
Iwata: You've been holding that information for 22 years since the release. (laughs)
Wada: Now that I had the chance. (laughs) There are a lot of hidden elements in the NES version.
themoreyouknow.jpg
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Caliban on August 08, 2009, 12:27:53 AM
That's... that's commendable to keep such a secret for so long.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 08, 2009, 02:54:28 AM
That's no secret, that's useless game design. Why make some outlandish connection between the opponent character and GENERIC BACKGROUND ACTIVITY?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Caliban on August 08, 2009, 09:30:30 PM
Why? Because. Just because.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 09, 2009, 12:02:30 AM
Because its cool.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 09, 2009, 05:09:00 AM
k.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Ghisy on August 09, 2009, 05:36:52 AM
Just got the US version off Ebay for 29 euros, shipping included. It's new so I guess it's not a bad deal.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on August 09, 2009, 04:31:39 PM
I know you didn't like Mario Strikers Charged AND its radical take on the Mario universe. But its unfair to call them scum, especially since they did an AMAZING job with Punch-Out and brought back to life a franchise nearly forgotten by its parent company.
Did you even play Punch-Out on Wii or are you letting your hate of the company keep you away from a solid game?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on August 10, 2009, 12:11:11 AM
I guess I am being unfair, though I still believe that anyone who can take the Mario universe and turn it into... THAT atrocity deserves to be slapped. They shouldn't be allowed near the Mario franchise ever again.
They seem suited for Punch-Out!! though, that kind of attitude and crudeness better fits a boxing game. The game looks solid for what it is but I still don't think it's something I'd be into, so it is on my "will buy when cheap" list. And that's a long list so it could be a while...
I didn't manage to convince my brother to buy it so I haven't been able to try it.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 10, 2009, 12:18:06 AM
OK now that's better now.
You have to agree, of course, that NLG can make games with lots of character and energy. They also know how to load a game with features and extra modes, which is why I think they would be great as Nintendo developers.
If it wasn't for these things Punch-Out Wii wouldn't have been as memorable as it is.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 10, 2009, 12:21:22 AM
But, but I really enjoyed Mario Strikers!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 10, 2009, 12:21:42 AM
I guess I am being unfair, though I still believe that anyone who can take the Mario universe and turn it into... THAT atrocity deserves to be slapped. They shouldn't be allowed near the Mario franchise ever again.
Pfft! It was the Mario universe viewed through the lens of an over-the-top sports game, and it was a LOT of fun.
As for Punch-Out!!, I'm loving the game, but there's one gripe I have with the game: you should never be able to dodge too soon, and this concept would lead into a natural game mechanic.
I don't like how, when the opponent winds up an attack and you dodge it right away, you generally wind up getting hit by it because Mac completes the dodge too soon.
Instead, I would've had it be a reactionary system where, if you dodge in a correct direction quickly (I say "correct" because certain hooks will hit you if you dodge the wrong way), the opponent would immediately unleash the attack, miss and you would be rewarded with a longer period of time during which you could punch your opponent. Take longer to dodge and your opponent will stay stunned for less time, thus rewarding players with faster reflexes with better KO times while still giving slower players a chance to play through the same game, just without breaking any records.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on August 10, 2009, 12:24:57 AM
It's the wrong kind of energy for Mario Strikers, it makes the game feel cold and mean-spirited. They do have an attention to detail but they also overlooked what makes the Mario universe charming.
Punch-Out!! looks to be pretty feature-full (I'm especially interested in the challenges where you have to KO the opponent with certain conditions) but both of the Mario Strikers games are light on features. Just two main modes, Exhibition and a short Season mode, and few options to toy with between them.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on August 10, 2009, 12:34:56 AM
I guess I am being unfair, though I still believe that anyone who can take the Mario universe and turn it into... THAT atrocity deserves to be slapped. They shouldn't be allowed near the Mario franchise ever again.
Pfft! It was the Mario universe viewed through the lens of an over-the-top sports game, and it was a LOT of fun.
As for Punch-Out!!, I'm loving the game, but there's one gripe I have with the game: you should never be able to dodge too soon, and this concept would lead into a natural game mechanic.
I don't like how, when the opponent winds up an attack and you dodge it right away, you generally wind up getting hit by it because Mac completes the dodge too soon.
Instead, I would've had it be a reactionary system where, if you dodge in a correct direction quickly (I say "correct" because certain hooks will hit you if you dodge the wrong way), the opponent would immediately unleash the attack, miss and you would be rewarded with a longer period of time during which you could punch your opponent. Take longer to dodge and your opponent will stay stunned for less time, thus rewarding players with faster reflexes with better KO times while still giving slower players a chance to play through the same game, just without breaking any records.
YES! I noticed the "dodging too soon" thing as well. Its even more annoying when the opponent fakes an attack then hits extremely fast (like Mr. Sandman who goes BOO 2 or 3 times before he deals a quick blow).
But I always blamed it on the fact that I get to jittery and dodge too soon, not on the game itself. The game gets you so excited and on your feet that you risk the chance of acting "too soon.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 10, 2009, 11:14:53 AM
I realize that this was how the original punch out was, but times have changed and having a game that's 100% reflex based is probably a bad idea.
If you look at the numbers, the game has only sold around 470,000. Compare that to the original Punch-Out that sold over 3 million copies. I wouldn't be surprised if this is Nintendo's way of testing the waters to see if truly hardcore games can still sell well or not and they're probably leaning toward "no" at this poiint. :\
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 10, 2009, 11:42:43 AM
Nintendo's testing nothing. This game is just another non-casual bone thrown out to do something about the money that leaks from the swimming vault.
It just exists.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BwrJim! on August 10, 2009, 11:50:36 AM
470k? thats WELL... 150K is the marker for a sequel. I agree with Ningurl69 *huggles, its a bone for fun and a throwback.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 10, 2009, 03:34:12 PM
I realize that this was how the original punch out was, but times have changed and having a game that's 100% reflex based is probably a bad idea.
If you look at the numbers, the game has only sold around 470,000. Compare that to the original Punch-Out that sold over 3 million copies. I wouldn't be surprised if this is Nintendo's way of testing the waters to see if truly hardcore games can still sell well or not and they're probably leaning toward "no" at this poiint. :\
First of all, what numbers are you using? If you are using VGchartz numbers then your argument looses strength. Second, if you want to see if the Punch Out franchise has legs you should have checked the numbers for Super Punch-Out as well for comparison's check. Third, did you check if the Punch-Out NES sales numbers are from the year of release or overall lifetime sales? I ask because if your numbers are OVERALL LIFETIME sales numbers then its unfair to use the numbers of a title that's been out for years and is still selling thanks to digital distribution to compare the numbers of a title that's been at retail for 2-3 months.
Assuming the sales numbers for Punch-Out Wii you posted are accurate then its nearing half a mill, which is not bad at all, and its likely that it will reach a million before the year's end in the US (don't forget that the game sales in Europe and Japan as well).
So its unfair to say that the game is a "failure" and an example of why core games don't sell on Wii when its likely the numbers are not correct, one example is a game that's been selling FOR YEARS and the numbers of the Wii title that's been out in retail for two months are good.
And in fear of derailing the thread many core titles on the 360 and PS3 also don't sell as well as expected, even with full marketing behind them. Don't believe for a second that only Wii has bad luck selling certain core titles.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 10, 2009, 04:02:09 PM
Pap, no one here called it a Failure. I think you're missing the point.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 10, 2009, 04:09:58 PM
I know that by logic games that appeal to a part of the fanbase will not sell as well as games that appeal to everybody (especially if those games are hyped to no end, like the case with Wii Sports Resort in which Nintendo used a big chunk of New York to hype the game). Just saying that its a tad unfair to compare NES Punch-Out's 3 million vs. Punch Out Wii's 470 K when one titles has been out forever and the other has been at retail for around 2 to 3 months and is still selling.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 10, 2009, 04:29:48 PM
It was also a legendary Mike Tyson product.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 10, 2009, 04:39:30 PM
Tyson got Punch-Out, Forman got a grill..
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Stogi on August 10, 2009, 06:12:41 PM
I'd just like to state this VERY clearly:
Ahem...
THIS GAME IS ABOUT TIMING, NOT REFLEXES.
That is all. Thank you.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 10, 2009, 06:17:08 PM
Yeah, considering that at the time Mike Tyson was a champion and very few games featured his likeness I am sure his appearance (and his legendary difficulty) drove game sales even further.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Luigi Dude on August 10, 2009, 07:09:42 PM
Yeah, considering that at the time Mike Tyson was a champion and very few games featured his likeness I am sure his appearance (and his legendary difficulty) drove game sales even further.
Exactly, people don't seem to remember just how big Mike Tyson was at the time this game came out. When the original Punch-Out came out back in 1987, Mike Tyson was pretty much the most popular sports star at the moment. His fights were all major events that people would go crazy over.
This is why it was any extremely smart move for Nintendo to make a deal with him for the original Punch-Out, because without Mike Tysons name attached to it, the original wouldn't have sold half of what it did. That is how big Mike Tyson was back then.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 10, 2009, 07:13:53 PM
Wasn't Mike Tyson also a highly controversial figure despite his champion status? Maybe that also helped spark even more curiosity towards the game.
I would like to know the sales numbers for the Mr. Dream version (that's another thing, the original Punch Out had two versions at retail, one with Tyson and one without him).
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 21, 2009, 02:27:48 PM
BUMP!
I am loving the hell out of this game. I, however, have one issue with it. In boxing, if in the course of the rounds you knock down your opponent three times then you win. This rule is sometimes ignored in games so the game plays longer. In Punch Out, on the other hand, is messed up.
If you knock down your opponent two times in round one, and then again in round three it doesn't count as a TKO since you have to knock him out three more times in that round. Fair enough, but the issue is that this rule doesn't apply to Little Mac at all! If Little Mac is knocked out two times in round one, he gets knocked out for good in round two.
This is pretty unbalanced since in the original the rule applied to Mac as well.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 21, 2009, 03:05:46 PM
I seem to recall that is how it was in the original.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: vudu on August 21, 2009, 03:13:57 PM
In the original if you fell down 3 times you didn't lose automatically, but it would take the will of God to let you get back up before Mario counted to 10.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 21, 2009, 03:18:29 PM
Interesting. I always thought it was three knock downs and you're out.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Mop it up on August 21, 2009, 05:34:53 PM
In the original if you fell down 3 times you didn't lose automatically, but it would take the will of God to let you get back up before Mario counted to 10.
You might as well have lost automatically because no human can press the button fast enough to get back up.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: SixthAngel on August 22, 2009, 06:46:51 AM
I am loving the hell out of this game. I, however, have one issue with it. In boxing, if in the course of the rounds you knock down your opponent three times then you win. This rule is sometimes ignored in games so the game plays longer. In Punch Out, on the other hand, is messed up.
If you knock down your opponent two times in round one, and then again in round three it doesn't count as a TKO since you have to knock him out three more times in that round. Fair enough, but the issue is that this rule doesn't apply to Little Mac at all! If Little Mac is knocked out two times in round one, he gets knocked out for good in round two.
This is pretty unbalanced since in the original the rule applied to Mac as well.
I've been knocked down three times in multiple rounds and gotten back up a few time.
One time it started the tko animation and I yelled "nooooooo" only to have little Mac bounce right back up because they put in a fake out tko animation. I didn't know what do and got beat down for a few seconds until I got back in the game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 22, 2009, 09:15:35 AM
I think you need to hit 1 and 2 buttons as fast as possible while that happens.
Also, I noticed an easter egg. In the World Circuit arena you can spot DK out in the audience. Its tricky since you have to pay attention during the cutscenes in which the audience is fully seen, but DK can be clearly seen in the back.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 23, 2009, 03:30:03 PM
I think you need to hit 1 and 2 buttons as fast as possible while that happens.
Also, I noticed an easter egg. In the World Circuit arena you can spot DK out in the audience. Its tricky since you have to pay attention during the cutscenes in which the audience is fully seen, but DK can be clearly seen in the back.
Like Clubber Lang... watching...waiting..
sweet!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 28, 2009, 04:08:57 PM
I just read ANOTHER neat secret in Punch-Out Wii. When looking at the character data in the Wii disc Disco Kid is labeled as "Kid Quick". Kid Quick is a character from the old Punch Out arcade games. This indicates that the guys at Next Level Games were thinking of remaking the character and be the sole arcade representative (while some of the characters appeared in the arcade games all of them had console appearances). But turns out that he was so different from the original character they made him a new character, BUT he still retains Kid Quick's stats, right down to the hometown.
Pretty cool, eh?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on August 29, 2009, 08:44:53 PM
Dammit pedro, you're ruining nintendos plans to keep this underwraps for 20 years!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: broodwars on December 28, 2009, 10:38:49 PM
I just picked the Wii Punch Out today, and given that we just had Christmas and there might be a few more new Punch Out owners out there I might as well *bump* this.
So far, I've made my way up to Soda Popinski, and in general haven't had too much trouble in Career mode (though the battles with Dom Flamengo and Great Tiger gave me some trouble until I did some practice in Exhibition). From the looks of my practice fight with Soda, though, the game gets a lot harder from here on out. Still, despite not being terribly fond of the original NES game and boxing in general, I'm finding myself really liking this game. The presentation is quite nice (though I would have liked subtitles for the non-English dialogue. Still, at least I could understand Don Flamengo), and the Challenge mode in Exhibition is more fun than I thought it would be (I've cleared all the Challenges up to Bear Hugger, who I only have the Challenge to clear him in Round 1 left). The game just has a sheer energy and sense of fun to it. Pity the unlockables are rather...blah.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 28, 2009, 10:49:02 PM
Keeping up an infinite combo via serious Motion Control usage is a good workout.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: broodwars on December 28, 2009, 10:57:20 PM
Keeping up an infinite combo via serious Motion Control usage is a good workout.
Bah...I tried playing that game with the Wiimote + Nunchuck motion control combo way back when on a Gamestop demo kiosk, and I was struggling to beat Glass frickin' Joe. No one in their right mind should use anything other than the Wiimote on its side NES-style for that game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 28, 2009, 11:21:21 PM
"No one in their right mind should use anything other than the Wiimote on its side NES-style for that game."
wrong. only those not looking for a physical challenge on top of the regular challenge of the game should do that.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: broodwars on December 28, 2009, 11:33:27 PM
"No one in their right mind should use anything other than the Wiimote on its side NES-style for that game."
wrong. only those not looking for a physical challenge on top of the regular challenge of the game should do that.
In a game that relies on split-second timing like this one does, it's not worth the hassle of trying to use unresponsive Wii motion control IMO.
Unresponsive Wii controls? Explain to me how I beat Story Mode with so called "unresponsive controls".
You learned to compensate for the lag, I suppose, just as I'm having to learn to compensate for the lag when I'm using the propeller suit in NSMBW. To each their own, I suppose.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on December 29, 2009, 12:11:22 AM
"No one in their right mind should use anything other than the Wiimote on its side NES-style for that game."
wrong. only those not looking for a physical challenge on top of the regular challenge of the game should do that.
In a game that relies on split-second timing like this one does, it's not worth the hassle of trying to use unresponsive Wii motion control IMO.
Unresponsive Wii controls? Explain to me how I beat Story Mode with so called "unresponsive controls".
You learned to compensate for the lag, I suppose, just as I'm having to learn to compensate for the lag when I'm using the propeller suit in NSMBW. To each their own, I suppose.
Or maybe I learned to read my foe better than you.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 29, 2009, 12:21:03 AM
But some may say I have an unfair advantage athleticism & rhythm run in my genetics...
Punch-Out!! is another game that weeds out weakness. The gamepad excuse is proof that 'gamers' are UNRESPONSIVE. Why is it that the usual Wii critics tend to be WEAK PEOPLE?
I am responsive. I am Wii Fit. The motion gameplay is exciting. If you can't hand Glass Joe his own ass with some simple waggle, that's a sign the individual SHOULDN'T be ignoring the physical opportunities this game presents. Jesus Christmas, my 10 yr-old cousin can waggle his way past King Hippo the first time around. To be consciously fast enough to move in-sync with Little Mac is a hidden gem of disciplined physical arcade gameplay that shows lazy people are still a complete mess despite the added accuracy of Wii Sports Resort Swordplay.
The gamepad play is such a bland piece of cake.
I like using the B/Z-trigger option for jabs. I think it's faster than pushing Up on the stick, and it helps balance the responsibilities for the two arms.
BnM, let's spar with Caterkiller.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: broodwars on December 29, 2009, 12:33:20 AM
Punch-Out!! is another game that weeds out weakness. The gamepad excuse is proof that 'gamers' are UNRESPONSIVE. Why is it that the usual Wii critics tend to be WEAK PEOPLE?
Sticks & Stones, Pro. I have no need to prove myself to anyone, especially to you. If a game expects me to execute commands with speed and accuracy, I think it only suitable that the controls enable me to do so. I find motion control in general to be too unpredictable for twitch gameplay, because there is a delay in execution from the console having to interpret your movements. I'll stick to the much more reliable and expedient nature of buttons, thanks.
Whatever our disagreements on the motion control in Punch Out, though, we can all agree on one thing: there's an option for everyone in here, whether you like motion control or not. So let's get back to appreciating the game itself, shall we, before the moderators have to intervene?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Kairon on December 29, 2009, 12:34:41 AM
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: Guitar Smasher on December 29, 2009, 12:58:43 AM
I got the game for Christmas from my bro. I'm also stuck at Soda Popinski at the moment. I've used motion controls exclusively and have had no problems, other than figuring out how to throw high punches at first. I guess sometimes I get carried away throwing one too many punches at a time, leaving myself vulnerable to attack.
I love the arcade style of the game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: SixthAngel on December 29, 2009, 06:30:09 AM
Has anyone played the Club Nintendo Doc Louis fight?
I am still on title defense. I stopped for a while because it was disheartening to have these lightweights beating me all over the ring.
On a side note I have never had a problem with the motion controls and do no better or worse with the buttons. It is also a lot more fun to shadow box to bring up my life when I knock somebody down.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 30, 2009, 08:35:56 PM
Ok, I just picked this game up again a little bit ago for the first time since the week it came out and decided I should atleast finish it one time through. I got inspired after I lent it to a friend about a week or so ago and he was eager to give it back since he had already beat it.
I left off on Super Macho Man who wasn't all that hard since he was pretty easy to read, but now I'm on Mr. Sand Man and I'm not sure I would last 4 seconds in the ring with this guy. He is the spiritual Mike Tyson from the old Punch Outs and he used to kick my ass all the time. I'm really intimidated from even trying the title fight since it's looks pretty pointless. I'm doing exhibition and I sure his 1st few punches would have TKO'd me in an actual fight.
So my question is, what are my cues that I'm looking for because i'm getting pummeled in exhibition mode.
truth is I haven't really tried to fight him, I was just looking to see what his initial pattern is, but I can't tell when to dodge his quick left jab that looks like it will floor you on the first hit. does this guy blink or something that I'm not noticing?
edit: Nevermind, I think I figured him out.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on December 30, 2009, 09:36:10 PM
I was about to respond with something to help you. Been asleep for most of the day.
You might of noticed but every fighter flashes red for when you have to dodge or counterpunch. He doesn't have many "tells" that you can read quickly and react. Sometimes he throws different timed punches such as his "stand still" and "Night Night" His other punches are rather quick. So you need to pay attention. It takes a while to get his timing down.
Good Luck BlackNMild!!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 30, 2009, 09:43:15 PM
I just figured out that if you just keep punching about once every "one one thousand", you will catch him open every single time and likely get lots of stars.
I've knocked him out almost twice in a single round now without getting touched, but the minute I get touched, it's pretty much down hill from there. It's too hard to know when to dodge that left hand downward punch that has no tell, and if you get tired, dodging is the only defense.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on December 30, 2009, 09:50:17 PM
Hmm I think you can counterpunch him in the face when he does his "stand still" punch.Hit him with a right punch to his face.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 30, 2009, 10:03:14 PM
Hmm I think you can counterpunch him in the face when he does his "stand still" punch.Hit him with a right punch to his face.
I don't think you understand what I figured out. I was punching him once every second and he never got to throw a punch because I countered them all. I was even getting stars every once in a while.
I was literally one punch away (my glove was almost to his face) from a TKO in the 2nd round just now when he was saved by the bell!!!!
EDIT: KO 0:48.49 in the 3rd round!!!!!
edit 2: No on ever said that there was a mini game in the credits - 171500 (i wasn't sure what was going on till the credits were about 1/3 thru already)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on December 30, 2009, 10:05:52 PM
I see. Well I hope you can beat him.:)
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 30, 2009, 10:12:08 PM
:D On to Title Defense!!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BeautifulShy on December 30, 2009, 10:28:12 PM
Yeah Nintendo has had interactive credits since SSBM. I like the NSMB Wii credits. Congradulations BlackNMild on beating Mr.Sandman!!
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: broodwars on December 30, 2009, 10:33:24 PM
Nice. Best of luck there. I'm doing some training against Super Macho Man before I take him on. His normal moves are pretty easy to read, but I keep misreading his spin punch. Considering he has two such moves, it's probably best that I get the hang of reading that, along with his delayed left punch.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 30, 2009, 11:06:43 PM
Once you get past him, if you read my spoiler for Mr. Sandman it takes alot of the guess work out of the fight. The real challenge appears to be after him, so I will carry that on some other time.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: SixthAngel on December 31, 2009, 03:07:21 AM
Once you get past him, if you read my spoiler for Mr. Sandman it takes alot of the guess work out of the fight. The real challenge appears to be after him, so I will carry that on some other time.
I think the first few guys are technically easier than Sandman (but still hard) since he beat the stuffing out of me again and again.
The real difficult part is that you have to "forget" how you fought them last time. Glass joe has a punch that starts out the exact same as his old punch so out of habit you dodge and then he hesitates and slugs you after the dodge.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 31, 2009, 12:45:24 PM
Good thing I haven't really played it since June or whenever it came out, I already "forgot" how I fought them last time. Advantage = Mine
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 31, 2009, 12:56:47 PM
I hereby rename this game "EXCITE PUNCH," cuz it's so awesome it's EXCITEing.
Infernal Monkey delivers yet again http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/features/21008/
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 31, 2009, 02:15:33 PM
Newest edition to the EXCITE series of games.
Does this mean we can call NSMBW "EXCITE JUMP"?
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: broodwars on January 07, 2010, 05:43:22 AM
Finally got around to playing this again, and after a few tries took down Sandman (the only punch he gave me serious problems on was that delayed left hook, which was a problem because I grew accustomed to being ready to dodge left at any time to avoid all his other punches). Now that Title Defense is unlocked, I went ahead and defeated Glass Joe again (which was surprisingly hard due to having difficulties obtaining Star Punches, not to mention the opponents now seem to know how to dodge Star Punches). Looking at the mode, honestly I don't know if I'm going to bother finishing it. Sure, I'd like to unlock that 14th boxer (yes, I know who he is), but I'd much rather be boxing new enemies rather than all these old ones with new moves and fewer weaknesses. I also wish the rewards were completing the Challenges were actually worth unlocking, as they're glorified Sound Test Modes that I never bother with in any other game as well.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 08, 2010, 03:34:32 PM
The changed-up behaviors in Title Defense should've been the default game.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: broodwars on January 08, 2010, 04:22:36 PM
The changed-up behaviors in Title Defense should've been the default game.
You could be right, there...especially if it meant getting more boxers from Super Punch-Out or new characters altogether. Still, I had a good deal of fun in the standard career mode, and Title Defense being pretty much this game's "Hard Mode" I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it as much if that were the default.
Title: Re: PUNCH OUT!!
Post by: EasyCure on January 11, 2010, 10:54:57 PM
I hate you guys, I really do.
Its bad enough that after demoing this game to a cousin of mine (a new wii owner after giftmas) I miss it to death after lending it to him, but now i have you guys reminding me of how enjoyable it is, reminding me i still have yet to beat Title Defense mode AND THERE'S A MINIGAME DURING CREDITS!? Maybe its been so lon since ive played it, but i don't remember that one at all. ****!
