Topic: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held

[Kytim89]

The DS 2 should have a built in rumble pack that can be turned on and off in the settings menu. What about storing the miis on the device's memory? A tilt sensor with motion and a stylus with force feedback sounds good. A virtual hand held service. about two to four Gigabytes of internal memory. How about the camera(if any?) should have the ability to play and record video. The DS 2 should have screen savers and a more robust game catalog from Nintendo(Star Fox DS). Improved speakers and a USB port for accessory support(ie Guitar grip).

[Tanookisuit]

I saw a Sprint commercial yesterday, and it showed 5 guys sitting around a campfire playing DSi systems, and one guy says, "eat it, Yoshi!" or something like that.

Do you think Nintendo is going to partner with Sprint for 3G or 4G connections for the next DS?  I know it's a possibility, and Nintendo allowing not only systems, but character names in a Sprint commercial makes me wonder...

[Stogi]

link?

[BlackNMild2k1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWcobnRzU1o&feature=player_embedded

I just searched it on Google

Ne Sprint commercial campfire, 1st result

[Stogi]

interesting...

He said share 5 highspeed connections...I'm assuming he means using one of those cellphone routers. The ones that get the 3G/4G signal then WLAN to other devices.

That was one of the longest parts of the commercial though....

[Kytim89]

Could Final Fantasy 7-9 ever be ported to the DS 2? Or does Sony have a grip on tose titles like Microsoft and Rare? Personally I would be eager to see these games on the next DS system. I am not interested in playing them on the PSP because I could just play them on my PS2.

[Stogi]

^^
None of that makes any sense.

[BeautifulShy]

The DS 2 should have a built in rumble pack that can be turned on and off in the settings menu. What about storing the miis on the device's memory? A tilt sensor with motion and a stylus with force feedback sounds good. A virtual hand held service. about two to four Gigabytes of internal memory. How about the camera(if any?) should have the ability to play and record video. The DS 2 should have screen savers and a more robust game catalog from Nintendo(Star Fox DS). Improved speakers and a USB port for accessory support(ie Guitar grip).

You realize how much all of this would add to the price of the handheld correct?

[Kytim89]

The DS 2 should have a built in rumble pack that can be turned on and off in the settings menu. What about storing the miis on the device's memory? A tilt sensor with motion and a stylus with force feedback sounds good. A virtual hand held service. about two to four Gigabytes of internal memory. How about the camera(if any?) should have the ability to play and record video. The DS 2 should have screen savers and a more robust game catalog from Nintendo(Star Fox DS). Improved speakers and a USB port for accessory support(ie Guitar grip).

You realize how much all of this would add to the price of the handheld correct?

How much?

[Stogi]

lol

[Kytim89]

I guess Nintendo could include this stuff if they did it cheaply, which is higly likely considering their conservatism.

[BeautifulShy]

The DS 2 should have a built in rumble pack that can be turned on and off in the settings menu. What about storing the miis on the device's memory? A tilt sensor with motion and a stylus with force feedback sounds good. A virtual hand held service. about two to four Gigabytes of internal memory. How about the camera(if any?) should have the ability to play and record video. The DS 2 should have screen savers and a more robust game catalog from Nintendo(Star Fox DS). Improved speakers and a USB port for accessory support(ie Guitar grip).

You realize how much all of this would add to the price of the handheld correct?

How much?

While I don't have a exact price I think most of these aren't needed on a handheld.
A rumble pack would just put more tax on the battery life of the system.
The screensavers I don't think really add anything.
I think with what you have here the handheld would be $250. I would like to keep the price lower than $200 if possible.

[Kytim89]

I want the system to have really good feature. This is all pure speculation, which is the point of the post.

[NWR_insanolord]

The DS 2 should have a built in rumble pack that can be turned on and off in the settings menu. What about storing the miis on the device's memory? A tilt sensor with motion and a stylus with force feedback sounds good. A virtual hand held service. about two to four Gigabytes of internal memory. How about the camera(if any?) should have the ability to play and record video. The DS 2 should have screen savers and a more robust game catalog from Nintendo(Star Fox DS). Improved speakers and a USB port for accessory support(ie Guitar grip).

You realize how much all of this would add to the price of the handheld correct?

How much?

While I don't have a exact price I think most of these aren't needed on a handheld.
A rumble pack would just put more tax on the battery life of the system.
The screensavers I don't think really add anything.
I think with what you have here the handheld would be $250. I would like to keep the price lower than $200 if possible.

Most of the things in that post wouldn't be especially expensive, actually. Half of them could be done on the DSi with software updates, which means they wouldn't add to the cost of manufacturing the device.

[Shaymin]

I want Whispernet on the DS as much as anyone - if not more. The only thing is they'd have to have at least two different models, and probably 3 if they want decent coverage in Japan, because of the differences in mobile technologies between North America and Europe.

It's possible that the 2nd rev of this system could have it assuming the providers get to a single world standard by then, but it's probably not going to happen out of the box. If it does though, there'd probably be a price increase across the board for content in order to pay the carriers for data usage.

[Kytim89]

What about the stylus? It is supposed to motion based? The next system should be called the Super Dual Screen.

[TJ Spyke]

Could Final Fantasy 7-9 ever be ported to the DS 2? Or does Sony have a grip on tose titles like Microsoft and Rare? Personally I would be eager to see these games on the next DS system. I am not interested in playing them on the PSP because I could just play them on my PS2.

Microsoft owns Rare, Sony does not own Square Enix or any of the Final Fantasy games. Assuming Nintendo's next portable is powerful enough to run them (which is not hard considering the PSP can play them), Square Enix could release any of the Final Fantasy games on it.

[Kytim89]

Could Final Fantasy 7-9 ever be ported to the DS 2? Or does Sony have a grip on tose titles like Microsoft and Rare? Personally I would be eager to see these games on the next DS system. I am not interested in playing them on the PSP because I could just play them on my PS2.

Microsoft owns Rare, Sony does not own Square Enix or any of the Final Fantasy games. Assuming Nintendo's next portable is powerful enough to run them (which is not hard considering the PSP can play them), Square Enix could release any of the Final Fantasy games on it.

Good! The sooner the better!

[Chozo Ghost]

N64 and GC may have been disappointments to Nintendo, but failures they were not.

I agree with that. They were profitable, and the games sold millions and were enjoyable. I don't know how that could be a failure.

There was also the N64DD, which only launched in Japan near the end of the N64's life and had only a small number of titles that made use of it.

If the Virtual Boy was Nintendo's Saturn, then that was their 32x.

[Chozo Ghost]

The Virtual Boy would be impossible to emulate on the DS, it used special screens to create the 3D effects.
Plus I highly doubt Nintendo wants to being attention to their biggest failure.

It wouldn't be impossible. It just wouldn't be in 3D, that's all. I believe there are VB emulators that exist on the PC, so it theoretically could be done on the DS as well.

But of course, your point about Nintendo not wanting to draw attention to their failure is probably valid. Then again, the VB is rather old now, and few people remember it or have ever even heard of it, so it wouldn't be too embarassing to draw attention to it now, I think.

Again, I think the games would just appear as regular 2D but should still be fully playable. So its something that COULD be done.

Edit: Then again, what if Nintendo surprises everyone by making the DS2 be a 3D system? The VB was a flop, but the technology wasn't mature in those days. If Nintendo attempted it now with current technology it would blow everyone's minds and it would really put them apart from Sony and its (presumably) 2D handheld. If you look at what Nintendo has done this gen with touchscreens and motion controls, I don't think them pulling something like that is out of the question.

[Stratos]

I don't think it's a matter of Nintendo wanting to hide their failure so much and how many people would actually pay money to play those old VB games? Not to many I recon.

[Kytim89]

Could Nintendo use one of those filters from the DSi camera, you know the one that changes the color of the screen? They could have a button in the settings menu that could swith the screen with a filter that could simulate the screen of the virtual boy. Think of it as built in 3-D glasses for a handheld.

[Mop it up]

I forgot about the 64DD add-on, that could definitely be considered a failure. Nintendo probably lost some money on that one.

It wouldn't be impossible. It just wouldn't be in 3D, that's all.

The system had two screens to create the 3D effects, which couldn't be replicated on the DS screens since they can't be positioned directly in front of your eyes. Altering the games to display on a single screen and a different resolution is more effort than it is worth, plus cutting out the 3D is removing the whole point of the Virtual Boy. Otherwise it's just a red-coloured Game Boy. There were only 14 games released and not all of them were from Nintendo; it wouldn't be worth the effort.

[Kytim89]

What about the Game and Watch, Game Gear, Atari Lynx, Neo Geo Pocket color, turbo graffix and gameboy/color/advance?

[Stogi]

I think I remember Miyamoto saying that Nintendo was lucky to have survived financially in the years between N64 and Gamecube. Something about how a lack of innovation was leading them in the same path as SEGA. I believe this was stated back in 2004 when the DS first emerged or when the wii was announced in 2006.

Man, I'd love to find that source where he says that. Sounds really interesting, especially as I personally consider the GC as Nintendo losing some of their footing creatively.

Missed this from earlier.

You thought the GC lost some footing creatively? I actually thought a lot of games were VERY creative. Miyamoto made one of his best new IP's, Pikmin, which is hilarious in how it works and even tugs at our heart strings from time to time. Retro re-invented the Metroid series into a FP view for god sakes and used the GC controller to perfection. No joke, Prime was probably my favorite game of the last gen and the most well made game in years. Donkey Kong Jungle Beat was the best side-scroller in years and you played it with drums! If that's not creative, then nothing is. Then there's Wind Waker, made with the best art style ever...so good in fact, that I have yet to see it topped (hopefully Nintendo doesn't listen to there fans and makes Zelda Wii cel-shaded). Then there was Melee, which some might consider the best multiplayer game of all time.

And that doesn't even include third party efforts with ED, BG&E, RE4, Rogue Squadron, Killer 7, and Viewtiful Joe.

My point being, you may want to rethink your opinion. The GC was awesome and you know it!