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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #100 on: February 28, 2010, 03:56:29 PM »
What about the virtual boy?
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« Reply #101 on: February 28, 2010, 04:06:31 PM »
The Virtual Boy would be impossible to emulate on the DS, it used special screens to create the 3D effects.
Plus I highly doubt Nintendo wants to being attention to their biggest failure.
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« Reply #102 on: February 28, 2010, 04:43:09 PM »
What ws their second failure?
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #103 on: February 28, 2010, 04:47:24 PM »
Super Smash Brothers Brawl? :P

Maybe the Virtual Boy was their only failure. Unless something like the Game Boy Micro counts, I think that sold poorly.
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« Reply #104 on: February 28, 2010, 04:51:04 PM »
Could the N64 be regarded as a failure in some way? It did fairly good, but considering that it used cartridges in the dawn of CD based games.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #105 on: February 28, 2010, 05:05:42 PM »
You could make that case, it would depend on how you are defining "failure." It lost a lot of marketshare to the PlayStation and didn't surpass its predecessor in sales. However, it was quite a profitable system for Nintendo, so it wasn't a financial failure in the way that the Virtual Boy was.
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« Reply #106 on: February 28, 2010, 05:18:37 PM »
What about the Gamecube? I think I remember Miyamoto saying that Nintendo was lucky to have survived financially in the years between N64 and Gamecube. Something about how a lack of innovation was leading them in the same path as SEGA. I believe this was stated back in 2004 when the DS first emerged or when the wii was announced in 2006. The wii and DS acted as a defibrillator for Nintendo's finances.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #107 on: February 28, 2010, 05:53:33 PM »
Nintendo had 1 (read: ONE) non-profitable quarter since the release of the NES(?) and it happened during the GC era. 1 quarter being a 3 month span of the year and overall the were still profitable throughout that whole year.

N64 and GC may have been disappointments to Nintendo, but failures they were not.
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« Reply #108 on: February 28, 2010, 06:39:05 PM »
Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2010, 05:53:33 PM
N64 and GC may have been disappointments to Nintendo, but failures they were not.
I agree with that. They were profitable, and the games sold millions and were enjoyable. I don't know how that could be a failure.
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« Reply #109 on: February 28, 2010, 08:09:43 PM »
Quote from: Kytim89 on February 28, 2010, 05:18:37 PM
I think I remember Miyamoto saying that Nintendo was lucky to have survived financially in the years between N64 and Gamecube. Something about how a lack of innovation was leading them in the same path as SEGA. I believe this was stated back in 2004 when the DS first emerged or when the wii was announced in 2006.

Man, I'd love to find that source where he says that. Sounds really interesting, especially as I personally consider the GC as Nintendo losing some of their footing creatively.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #110 on: February 28, 2010, 08:38:15 PM »
It has been a long time since I heared that staement. So somethings might have faded from my memory. Basically Miyamoto said that Nintendo had to reinvent their style(ie motion controls).
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« Reply #111 on: February 28, 2010, 10:55:46 PM »
They should reinvent their approach to handheld package design because honestly, whose hands have 90° angles in them?  The square iterations of the GBA and DS really bother me.  Not just because of how they're uncomfortable, but because Nintendo made, what I think, is the best controller ever with the GC controller.  It's just so perfect and comfortable ergonomically, so they're clearly aware of how to design something really well to fit into a person's hands, and they just don't seem to care to work that into their handheld designs.  If there's one thing I want more than hardware, software, or motion controlling, it's just to make it fit well in my hands.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #112 on: February 28, 2010, 11:04:30 PM »
have you ever tried to fit a GC controller into your pocket?
how comfortable was that?

A portable system has to first be portable and functional before economical to hold in your hands otherwise we end up with another GameGear or Nomad.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #113 on: February 28, 2010, 11:46:01 PM »
Optional grip attachment?
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #114 on: February 28, 2010, 11:54:21 PM »
Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2010, 11:04:30 PM
have you ever tried to fit a GC controller into your pocket?
how comfortable was that?

A portable system has to first be portable and functional before economical to hold in your hands otherwise we end up with another GameGear or Nomad.

Or Atari Lynx. ;D
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #115 on: March 01, 2010, 12:37:59 AM »
Quote from: Mop it up on February 28, 2010, 11:46:01 PM
Optional grip attachment?

Leave it to the third-party accessory makers I say.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #116 on: March 01, 2010, 12:51:56 AM »
I had an idea where the bottom of the system had two handle bars that popped down on either side. That way you could hold the system more naturally.
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« Reply #117 on: March 01, 2010, 12:54:15 AM »
Could the DS 2 have a radio player?
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #118 on: March 01, 2010, 04:59:10 AM »
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Could the DS 2 have a radio player?

I would love to put my monkey* app on the DSi for radio on the go.

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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #119 on: March 01, 2010, 11:02:27 AM »
What about a movie player?
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #120 on: March 01, 2010, 11:15:02 AM »
Maybe as an app but I doubt Nintendo would support it outside of Japan.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #121 on: March 02, 2010, 11:20:11 AM »
If the DS 2 has a movie player, it will need a better battery. The current battery for the current DS system just does not seem like it could up long enough to watch a two hour movie. Perhaps it could have twice the battery life?
 
One thing that I hope will come from the next DS system is that it will be able to handle full 3-D better. What I am saying is games like COP: The Recruit would have better textures. Thiis would be important for games that I want to see on the portable device.  Games such as Madworld, No More Heroes, Mass Effect and Dead Space should have 3-D iterations on the next DS system. I know that the regular DS can play 3-D, but I want it to do more with fancier hard ware.
 
Madworld, No More Heroes, Mass Effect and Dead Space would all play like their console versions, but would combine their style with that of COP: The Recruit. Now, I know that game was kind of bad, but the development studios behind these games could make the gameplay muc better. Imagine the shooting sequences for COP being uses for Dead Space DS to take down Necromorphs.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #122 on: March 02, 2010, 11:24:27 AM »
I apologize if this has been said already, but I think it would be pretty awesome to see Nintendo take an Amazon Kindle approach to some of the network features, that being free cellphone based internet service.

Now, obviously it just wouldn't be financially viable for online gaming... the bandwidth would be too high, so that would have to stay WiFi only.  However, it would be awesome to see them deliver digital purchases and other neat things that way.

Ideally, those neat things would be xbox live like user profiles and what not.  The sad part of that is they would most likely have to launch such an online service along with the console that runs it... and Wii doesn't.  :(

But yeah, overall I just want to see a service more integrated with the web.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #123 on: March 02, 2010, 11:36:26 AM »
I recall Nintendo commenting on wanting future systems to have a Kindle-esque model so they are at least considering it and trying to pull it off. It may just not materialize until farther down the road.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #124 on: March 02, 2010, 05:10:53 PM »
Ive put a little thought into using a 3G service on the DS2 and the only way I can see it working is if the cost is buried in the downloads and the DS2 updated and save it's DS2Shop to to your internal storage whenever it it came across a WiFi network. This would allow you to browse the shop without needing to be connected online and not using an active 3G until the the time of purchase and download if your not in an active WiFi area.
Of course you have the option of updating the shop over 3G too, but I figure an automatic ' update over it would keep cost down as I'm guessing Nintendo would get a 3G access report to break down profits vs cost on 3G downloads.
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