We've seen a fair share of Nintendo games, though, not exactly sell phenomenally. Titles like Wario Land Shake It; Punch Out; Metroid Prime 3 Corruption: and the Metroid Prime Trilogy come to mind.
Other than Wario Land and the special limited collector's edition of Metroid Prime Trilogy, those are Million sellers or close to it. I'd hardly call them flops.
In Japan, neither Super Mario Galaxy nor Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess sold what Nintendo would have liked.
Mario Galaxy has outsold every PS360 game in Japan save one, and Zelda every game save about 10 or so. They both have outsold the shovelware copycat Wii games by large margins. I'm not sure what your point is.
The third party flops are a given for any generation and this one in particular because they thought they didn't need to market any of them. Capcom fails on both Zack and Wiki and Okami mainly due to their absent marketing (Nintendo still markets their video games, yes, even "casual" ones.). Zack and Wiki was advertised as an early childhood game and Okami wasn't advertised at all. A Boy and his Blob is from Majesco, who's another violent shovelware offender, and with Zero marketing Who would think the game is quality.
Then you have the rail shooters, which have for the most part been excellent. But oh, that's right...it doesn't matter if the games' any good because those weren't the games you wanted.
They're the games nobody wanted. This is why they didn't sell very well, particularly in EA's case where they decided a few web banners was sufficient for their "massive undertaking" for Wii, despite the entire announcement for the game being a PR disaster and everybody basically hating the whole idea of the game from day one, no matter how decent a rail shooter it is. And considering the actual proper Resident Evil game outsold both RE Rail shooter spinoffs, I think that's the one the consumers wanted more and apparently critics, too.
And two of those also apparently "don't matter" because they are ports of games from last generation, despite the fact that the Wii has a userbase the PS2 and GC could only have dreamed of that didn't own games last generation.
Rail shooters didn't sell on PS2 or GC either.
Contrasting those titles, we have stuff like Carnival Games
LOL I knew I was going to hear Carnival Games in this thread at one point (You'll also see it on Take 2's wall if Pro does Take 2) IT's like the Go-to game for trying to imply the Wii userbase is a bunch of casuals, despite 67 million of the 70 million strong Wii userbase apprently doesn't want it. It also being a budget $30 game from the middle of 2007 apparently doesn't matter either, nor does the fact that the Carnival games "Franchise" is a failure and most fo the games that rip this off (_____ Games) are also gigantic flops.
Wii Play (yes, I know people bought it for the remote. It doesn't mean they needed to pay an extra $10 for the game while they were at it)
Well since you already know that Wii Play's value isn't really in the game itself, why don't third parties realize that when they knock it off and wonder why nobody's biting?
both Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games titles
Yeah I'm sure it's 100% casuals are the ones buying this. Mario and Sonic being on the cover is a total coincidence and it's higher sales than the rest is a complete fluke too.
seemingly Wii Music (hush, you);
This game actually didn't do as well as you might think. But even so, did it sell more than SSBB or Mario Galaxy or Zelda? no.
and a whole bunch of random shovelware crap that creeps up on the low end of the NPDs from time to time.
So do any of
them sell more than Mario Galaxy, Zelda, SSBB? No.
But the expanded audience buys a lot of crap as well while ignoring many good games on Wii, which we are then expected to step in and absorb with our wallets.
Considering the sources of the few good games are also the source of the masses of shovelware, don't you think they are justified in being suspicious?
But they are too many and we are too few.
Yeah it's certainly a casual utopia on Wii. that's why all these casual third party games in this thread are all major hits the likes of which even God has never seen.
EDIT: It's funny to see people try and apologize for the third parties in this thread and harp on games like Wii Play and Wii music when they aren't even in the same LEAGUE of crap that most of the third party games on the wall. Again, a double standard. Nintendo makes a game that's critically panned, shame on you. Third parties make a game that's critically DEAD, Well that's just what sells (even though they really don't). Not their fault, right?
Nobody has yet convinced anybody that Nintendo does not deserve the most sales on Wii. Nobody has disputed that Nintendo has made the best games on Wii. This is the whole point of the thread.