Topic: Stratos I'm calling you and The Pizza Cats out!!!

[vudu]

Which goes back to evil business men coming up with the 15% thing as an excuse to pay less. Many restaurants pay their servers below minimum wage and count tips towards making it equal minimum wage

Which goes back to my argument that you get better service this way.  Would you rather your food cost 15% more and you didn't have to tip?  There would be no incentive for servers to perform their jobs better.  With tipping you get a say in your server's pay and they're motivated to do a better job.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Which goes back to evil business men coming up with the 15% thing as an excuse to pay less. Many restaurants pay their servers below minimum wage and count tips towards making it equal minimum wage

Which goes back to my argument that you get better service this way.  Would you rather your food cost 15% more and you didn't have to tip?  There would be no incentive for servers to perform their jobs better.  With tipping you get a say in your server's pay and they're motivated to do a better job.

I would agree if there weren't so many terrible servers out there.

[vudu]

I would agree if there weren't so many terrible servers out there.

You're allowed to tip them poorly--or not at all if the service doesn't warrant a tip.

Think of it at waitstaff evolution; the survival of the fittest.  The good ones get good tips and continue waiting tables.  The bad ones get bad tips and find new jobs.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I forget where I saw this, but there was someone that would put the tip on the table as soon as they sat down. As time went on, if the waiter was doing good the money would still be there, if they started slacking or messing up, money would start to disappear.

I always found that funny but psychologically fucked up.

Start with $5 on the table, ask for some water with a lemon on the rim, not in the glass and a straw also in the glass, paper still on the tip. Start timing the person on how long it takes them to return with your water in the specific way you ordered it. Deduct necessary amount of tip from table is everything isn't as you asked.

I would expect spit(or worse) somewhere in your food if you actually did that to a waiter.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I forget where I saw this, but there was someone that would put the tip on the table as soon as they sat down. As time went on, if the waiter was doing good the money would still be there, if they started slacking or messing up, money would start to disappear.

I always found that funny but psychologically fucked up.

Start with $5 on the table, ask for some water with a lemon on the rim, not in the glass and a straw also in the glass, paper still on the tip. Start timing the person on how long it takes them to return with your water in the specific way you ordered it. Deduct necessary amount of tip from table is everything isn't as you asked.

I would expect spit(or worse) somewhere in your food if you actually did that to a waiter.

I remember something like that from 3rd Rock from the Sun where Dick was doing the same thing to the waitress.

[BlackNMild2k1]

that might be where I saw it.

[Dasmos]

What the hell is the deal with tipping anyway? Why do you pay people for doing their job correctly?

[ShyGuy]

They still have Godfather's Pizza??

[Mop it up]

Why should I pay someone to bring me drinks? I can get up and refill my own glass, thanks. Whilst I'm up, I might as well grab my food, if it's ready. In fact, I think I'll go back into the kitchen and prepare my own food.

You know what? I'm just going to stay home and cook my own dinner for a fraction of the cost. Why should I pay someone to do something I can easily do myself?

[GoldenPhoenix]

They still have Godfather's Pizza??

Yep, not many around but they are still here.

[NWR_insanolord]

Hey Stratos, I figured out something else you need to fix. You have to get them to go back to the old way they made the Bigfoot pizzas. I loved those, but then they changed them a while back and made them a lot thicker and worse. That's a big reason I pretty much stopped going to Pizza Hut.

[Stratos]

I have never worked for a location that still serves them. Last time I knew Pizza Hut made them was before I even worked for the company.

There was the Panourmous, but that was a glorified square pan pizza. I much preferred specialty pizzas like the Buffalo Chicken, BBQ Chicken PZone, Twisted Cheesy Crust and the Gold Stuffed Crust pizzas. They need to bring some of them back.

The bigest LOL failure was the '4-for-all' that they were convinced would be huge and even contracted the rights to use the Muppet characters to advertise the pizza during the Superbowl one year. It was basically 4 square personal size pizzas and a lot of people had gotten the impression it was much larger than it really was. The pizza tanked and quickly dropped from the menu lineup.

[NWR_insanolord]

Yeah, this was a long time ago; I haven't gone to Pizza Hut in a long time so I wasn't sure if they still even had them. I recently discovered, though, that a local pizza place right by my college has pizza that's pretty similar to the old Bigfoots, but in a regular circle shape. I've got to test whether it's as good cold as the old Bigfoots, which were almost better cold than hot.

[that Baby guy]

I would agree if there weren't so many terrible servers out there.

You're allowed to tip them poorly--or not at all if the service doesn't warrant a tip.

Think of it at waitstaff evolution; the survival of the fittest.  The good ones get good tips and continue waiting tables.  The bad ones get bad tips and find new jobs.

You mean the good ones pass on their good characteristics to new hires, while the bad ones get fired and died, right?

[Dasmos]

Why should I pay someone to bring me drinks? I can get up and refill my own glass, thanks. Whilst I'm up, I might as well grab my food, if it's ready. In fact, I think I'll go back into the kitchen and prepare my own food.

You know what? I'm just going to stay home and cook my own dinner for a fraction of the cost. Why should I pay someone to do something I can easily do myself?

But they're already getting paid for doing their job? That's what a job is, getting paid to do something.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Well, you tip someone for bringing you drink because you didn't have to stand in line at the crowded bar to go get it yourself. Waitresses get priority at the bar and their drinks get made first. Also, it allows you to do something else in the time it takes the waitress to bring you your drink, like use the bathroom, hit the dance floor, go have a smoke or continue that conversation with whoever you were talking to.

It's the same thing with food at a restaurant.
You get to sit down and browse the menu(read the paper, read a book, make a phone call, etc etc.), they bring you drinks, refill your cups, keep your bread basket full and then take your order, make sure the chef got it right, and then bring it to you all w/o you having to lift a finger.

Some waiters are really good at their job and you would go back to a certain restaurant just to sit in their section, other waiters deserve to get dine and ditched for their shitty service, which includes messing up your order, since it's their job to get the cook to make it how you ordered it and get it to you while it's still sizzling hot.

Although there are certain exceptions, like one time when I went to a Denny's on the late night and the place was busy, but there was only on waitress on staff at the time (3am). She was running all over the place trying to do the best she could, but there was just too many people with too many orders. Her service kinda sucked, but I felt bad and tipped her decently anyway.
She was covering something like 14-16 tables with around 2-6 people per table, and I think one table dine & ditched her since she took forever bringing them the check. Poor girl. her help didn't show up till 3:30am and it supposedly had been busy since just after 2am.

[Stratos]

I feel bad for that gal. And at 3:30 it would be pretty hard to find someone to come in to help too.

I've actually found that working in food service has made me much more patient with all sorts of service related matter of my own. I'm not bothered if it takes a little time for the check to arrive or if someone is stuck on the phone dealing with a customer before helping me. But I also seem to have higher expectations of how these other service people behave and carry themselves or how clean their store is compared to how busy it looks. If the trash if overflowing at Wendy's and it's dead then yeah, I ding them for being lazy. But if the place is packed I'm not as bothered because I understand how it feels to be in the middle of a crazy rush.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Yeah if I see a waitress or waiter who is flooded with customers and they seem to be doing their best I tip them well. It is the ones where they aren't overloaded and have time to BS with people in the back while either your drink needs a refill or your food is getting cold that get no tip from me.

[Mop it up]

Why should I pay someone to bring me drinks? I can get up and refill my own glass, thanks. Whilst I'm up, I might as well grab my food, if it's ready. In fact, I think I'll go back into the kitchen and prepare my own food.

You know what? I'm just going to stay home and cook my own dinner for a fraction of the cost. Why should I pay someone to do something I can easily do myself?

But they're already getting paid for doing their job? That's what a job is, getting paid to do something.

So you're saying I should eat out just because people need jobs?

[EasyCure]

I don't understand tyhe american system for tipping people just because.

You get tipped because you EARN IT. I won't give you more money just because you grace me with your presence. If Nintendo could do that then they'd be the richest company on earth.

I follow your philosophy Plugabugz, there have been times where I gave no tip if the service was bad. I also don't understand the %15 thing, does it take more work to deliver your plate of crab legs and lobster compared to giving you a plate with a cheeseburger on it?

Exactly. When i was in NYC last week i left $20 tips for some places and $1 in others. The larger the tip the more i enjoyed the food and the person serving. It usually bears no relevance to 15%.

wait wait wait *continues waiting* you were in NYC last week and you didn't hit me up to discuss Dalton and have  *continues waiting* session!? Cold man, ice cold.

Hey Stratos, I figured out something else you need to fix. You have to get them to go back to the old way they made the Bigfoot pizzas. I loved those, but then they changed them a while back and made them a lot thicker and worse. That's a big reason I pretty much stopped going to Pizza Hut.

Why i haven't heard of a bigfoot pizza in so long.. You know who you can thank for that right? Reggie!

Why should I pay someone to bring me drinks? I can get up and refill my own glass, thanks. Whilst I'm up, I might as well grab my food, if it's ready. In fact, I think I'll go back into the kitchen and prepare my own food.

You know what? I'm just going to stay home and cook my own dinner for a fraction of the cost. Why should I pay someone to do something I can easily do myself?

But they're already getting paid for doing their job? That's what a job is, getting paid to do something.

So you're saying I should eat out just because people need jobs?

I dunno about you but i eat out pro bono, but if it helps keeping someone employed (in this economy) i'll eat out a lot more. Hell i ate out tonight, with my girlfriend actually.



We went to Outback and I ordered the Melbourne. Yum.. what? Why are you looking at me like that?

[BlackNMild2k1]

OMG! At first glance I read the next statement wrong.

I dunno about you but i eat out pro bono, but if it helps keeping someone employed (in this economy) i'll eat out a lot more. Hell i ate out tonight, my girlfriend actually.

Had to do a double take.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Stratos, would be filing a formal complaint if the pizza wasn't almost free, but I just had THE WORST pizza from Pizza Hut I have ever had.

I wasn't there(at the Pizza Hut), but I'm sure this is what happened;

I try to order online, webiste resets after I unselect deliver forcing me to re-do the entire order.
After I redo the entire order an try to place it, the website ask me to re-log in, because I was already logged in.... wipes the entire order again.
Finally get the order put in again and hit submit.....10 minutes later after a screen that blames my internet connection for the hold up, the order fails to place.
I try again. Why, because I didn't want to call it in. after 10 more minutes it fails again.

So I call my local Pizza Hut,
I place an order for 2 $10 pizzas, 1 of them stuffed crust. the guys repeats it, put me on hold, yells at someone else in the back, comes back on the phone, I tell him my order again, he keeps interrupting me, I tell him stuffed crust, he barks part of my order to someone in the back, gets back on the phone and ask me about the order again I repeat the whole order, he ask if I want extra pineapple and ham on my Hawaiian and tells me it's free. Then repeats my entire order again and tells me how much it cost.


I wasn't there(at the Pizza Hut), but I'm sure this is what happened;
They realized that after I placed my order they didn't actually have any ham or pineapple to make my pizza, but they were smart enough to realize that it was a $10 pizza and tried to get too smart for their own good. One of them called up Little Caesars and ordered a $5 Ham & Pineapple, picked it up, put it into a Pizza Hut box and then waited for me to come pick it up (actually my girl picked it up.) so they would make a $5 profit.

Problem was, when I got the pizza, not only did it not have extra ham & pineapple, but it didn't have stuffed crust and barely any cheese either.

Long story short, Pizza hut gave me a $15 credit instead of replacing their Little Caesars switch-a-roo with an actual Pizza Hut Pizza.

What do you have to say about that Stratos? Case to defend an independently licensed affiliate of your current employer?

[Stratos]

LOL, no idea what happened there. Sounds more like general incompetency than anything. I tell my crew to not yell around and such while on the phone, I have them put the person on hold for a moment instead.

Though beware of the changes made in some areas regarding the special. It's 'up to 3 toppings or specialty' in my area and stuffed crust is now $2 more. Additional toppings are a buck more as well.

Honestly, our online system must be broken or something because people have issues with it all the time. I personally love ordering online at Dominos. It even has the little meter that shows it's path from make table to your door. Kinda cool if I'm on my couch an playing games I can look over to the computer screen and it will flash 'Oven' or 'On the Road' so I know when to start expecting it.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I love Dominoes Online system, especially with all the coupons they have. Pizza Huts online sucks donkey balls and someone needs to fix it.

The guy also put me on hold alot, that's why I kept repeating the order, but then he would also yell stuff to the back. When my girl went to get the pizza,she said some guy was in there for over 40 minutes and pissed waiting for his fixed pizzas since they messed up his original order.

[Crimm]

I hoped this thread was about Stratos and some new user named "The Hut." I had dreams of a three-party flamewar. Alas, it was not to be.