Topic: Superman Reboot

[ThePerm]

So they want to reboot the superman series, whats the frickin point? There are all sorts of angles for batman or james bond to be done, but wtf there isn't many ways to do superman

[UncleBob]

I dunno... they could try doing him... Good?

[ShyGuy]

Too soon for an origin after Smallville.

[UncleBob]

Too soon for an origin after Smallville.

I said "Good"...

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

They could pull a Green Lantern on us.

[DAaaMan64]

Dot Matrix? Megabyte? Hexadecimal?  Game cube?

[AV]

Superman Returns is a great movie, the people who don't like the movie don't like the character to begin with. Yes it should of been more of its own movie, not just a tribute of the other movies. It needed more action, simple as that but Bryan Singer and Brandon Routh know how to do it well.

It made 400 million Worldwide thats not a "bomb" by any means. The dark knight is amazing because Sequels tend to be better movies than the original. Just look at X-men 2 , Spiderman 2, Superman 2, are all better originals.

Given the astounding commercial success of the grim and gritty Dark Knight, Robinov says Warners's upcoming DC movie slate is "going to try to go dark to the extent that the characters allow it," and the next Superman movie will be no exception.

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These execs don't even get it, SUPERMAN IS NOT DARK. HE CAN"T BE DARK. BATMAN IS DARK THATS WHO HE IS, BATMAN WORKED BUT THAT SAME FORMULA 'MAKE IT DARK" DOESN'T WORK FOR SUPERMAN.
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Just allow Singer to do what he wants. He already promised more action and more engaging enemy.

The average score for Superman Returns was 77% thats not horrible by any means. The movie made a profit don't allow these execs destroy superman. If Execs got what they wanted he would of worn a black suit and killed a giant spider. These execs don't get it

[UncleBob]

Look, I like Superman as a character.  I saw Superman Returns twice in theaters.  However the movie had some pretty serious flaws.  Lois having Superbaby, even though she shouldn't remember her and Clark sleeping together in Superman 2?  Superman lifting giant land masses into the sky while having kryptonite shoved into his skin (not to mention the giant chunk next to his head)?  Frickin' normal human Lex Luthor punching Superman?  What?  Bring on Darkseid, Brainiac, even Metallo, if you must...  Lex Luthor in the movies is a joke - could you imangine him, say, becoming president?  He's a fool in the movies and to make yet another Superman movie featuring him is a disgrace to the audience.  Ditch the established media Superman (various movies, Smallville series, etc...) and start over.  Hell, feature Lex Luthor in a new movie, but make him Lex, not a clown in a purple suit - we already have one of those.

[vudu]

I hate Superman.  That's my contribution to this thread.

[nitsu niflheim]

IMO the reason Superman Returns didn't do as well as projected was because it wasn't a origin picture.  While it specifically and intentionally wasn't a sequel to Superman or Superman II, it played off those two movies and both of them were well over 20 years old at the time Superman Returns came out.  It wasn't a bad movie, I enjoyed it and have seen it more than once, but for a movie franchise which started out great and turned to crap by the last movie, which was released in 1987, 19 years before Superman Returns, it should have been different or more.  And Superman Returns ignored Superman III & IV, for reasons that III was campy but fun and IV was a cash in that was hurt because of budget cuts.  Too much time had passed, so Superman Returns should have been the second movie released after a proper origin movie was released first.

But for my personal choice, of all the DC comics franchises, Batman was and is my all time favorite.  Next would be Wonder Woman because I like chicks that kick ass. =D  Then would be Superman.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Superman Returns is a great movie, the people who don't like the movie don't like the character to begin with. Yes it should of been more of its own movie, not just a tribute of the other movies. It needed more action, simple as that but Bryan Singer and Brandon Routh know how to do it well.

Yeah that is it, it is IMPOSSIBLE to not like the movie if you like Superman ::rolls eyes::. I personally LOVE Superman but thought it spit on everything that was Superman, including his morals, not to mention the goofy stuff like lifting a Kryptonite mountain. Not to mention it had too much cheesyness to it, something I grew extremely tired of after the first Superman movies.

[ShyGuy]

It turned Supes into a creepy stalker. with a murderous illegitimate son. It also indirectly helped screw up X Men 3.

[GoldenPhoenix]

It turned Supes into a creepy stalker. with a murderous illegitimate son. It also indirectly helped screw up X Men 3.

Lol never thought of it that way but you are right.

[Arbok]

It turned Supes into a creepy stalker. with a murderous illegitimate son. It also indirectly helped screw up X Men 3.

Never before in my life have I agreed with someone more.

[King of Twitch]

I'm sick of ports and sequels

[bustin98]

Um, spoilers? I haven't seen the film yet. Seriously.

[Ian Sane]

Superman Returns was okay I guess.  I seemed to enjoy it while watching it but hardly remember anything about it now and don't have any plans on seeing it again.  It felt too derivative.  Luthor's whole scheme was practically lifted from the first film.  Plus it is pre-crisis Superman.  Lex Luthor is a much more interesting character in the post-crisis comics.

Making a dark Superman however will suck ass.  How come the suits never get this?  If everything is the same then nothing stands out and no one cares.  Yet so often execs are always pushing for that.  Every fall 90% of the new shows are a rip-off of whatever breakthru show became a hit last year.  Any popular new videogame or movie or music act or whatever is copied to death.  They never realize the whole REASON the original product got so much attention in the first place is because it stood out.  Batman and Superman both belong to the same company and have co-existed for decades and a big reason for that is because they're different.

Plus I don't get why they always want to fiddle with proven source material.  Superman has been a successful comic for 70 YEARS!  He's been around longer then probably every suit suggesting dark Superman has been alive.  Maybe, just maybe, that continously successful design is good enough to attract an audience, especially since Superman Returns DID attract an audience.

[vudu]

Um, spoilers? I haven't seen the film yet. Seriously.

Then what are you doing in this thread?

[bustin98]

No one had to mention 'murderous illegitimate son' while talking about rebooting the Superman franchise. One of the reasons I haven't seen the film is the bad press, but I still plan on seeing it.

Any news on Warner Bros retooling the series is welcomed by me, and I like to read what people have to say about it. So there!

[GoldenPhoenix]

Making a dark Superman however will suck ass. 

Superman Animated Series shows you why this does not "suck ass". While it had a few tongue in cheek episodes it had a much more serious tone than the movies.

[Athrun Zala]

It turned Supes into a creepy stalker. with a murderous illegitimate son. It also indirectly helped screw up X Men 3.

yes, that's the reason why I hated Returns =(

[redgiemental]

I'm actually all for a darker Superman in theme. You saw some darkside to his character in the Justice League cartoon in particular. I think it would make a change from the original movies.

[nickmitch]

Making a dark Superman however will suck ass. 

Superman Animated Series shows you why this does not "suck ass". While it had a few tongue in cheek episodes it had a much more serious tone than the movies.

I'm sure you're referring to the episode(s) where Supes was brainwashed and forced to attack the Earth. That was actually pretty sweet. It also proves that the cartoon versions of most comic books are definitive. Superman had action, drama and a lot of non-suckage that Superman Returns could have used.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Making a dark Superman however will suck ass. 

Superman Animated Series shows you why this does not "suck ass". While it had a few tongue in cheek episodes it had a much more serious tone than the movies.

I'm sure you're referring to the episode(s) where Supes was brainwashed and forced to attack the Earth. That was actually pretty sweet. It also proves that the cartoon versions of most comic books are definitive. Superman had action, drama and a lot of non-suckage that Superman Returns could have used.

Yep that is the one. If only the movies would follow a similar tone. It is kind refreshing to see Batman actually take a similar direction as the Animated Series (though it takes it a step further and made it even darker).

[ThePerm]

so, i was at a bar and one of my drunk friends mentioned how they were going to make a superman but dark.  He was like so like superman will just be dark right..he was talking about the lighting. I was like what they're just going to make the whole movie chiarro scurro instead of day glow? He had no idea what i was talking about.

i don't think superman needs to be darker, but more or less there needs to be a change of style, maybe something along the lines of Sin City or 300, a literal comic book made shot for shot into a movie.