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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #100 on: August 02, 2007, 06:07:52 AM »
On the subject of the game, it looks nice, but it looks like more of RE4, just with a different ethnicity for the zombies.

Not that this is a bad thing, but if it's not going to be something truly new, this isn't going to sell me a PS360.
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« Reply #101 on: August 02, 2007, 08:00:53 AM »
I'm sorry but I don't get the whole RE5 is racist thing. I mean if the setting is Africa, wouldn't it be weird to kill white Zombies?  I guess RE4 was racist because all the zombies were white.  If anybody should be offended by RE5, it should be ugly people because damn those zobmies are fugly!
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #102 on: August 02, 2007, 09:04:58 AM »
me personally, when i made my comments.. i was just responding to Bills joke and am not actually offended by this, but i could see where someone might actually be offended by it.

when someone brought up RE4 and how all the "zombies" were Spanish but no one was offended, i stated that  People of Spanish decent (Spaniards) are different from Hispanics (from central/south america) because the Spanish are considered White and seperate from Hispanics. Ever fill out a job application and get to the part thats "completely optional" that ask for you ehtnicity? It'll say White (non hispanic) or Hispanic (non white), one of the two. My "arguement" was that re4 was a white american shooting white europeans who happened to speak spanish.


as for the "arguments" against RE1 those zombies werent necissarily white. they were too decomposed to tell what race they were from.

now...

the probably with people being offended is that its so easy to become offended and in turn makes everyone else who opposes the view of the offended, offended! If you actually believe re5 is racist because it simply depicts a white man killing black zombies and you're offended, you're offending all the people that think your opinion is stupid and/or invalid.

now all of you that make blanket statements like "(ethnicity and/or religious group) take things way to seriously". you know are offended and making statements that will offend the other party. Likewise you are offending people on the fence with their opinions because theyll have to chime in with "lighten up man, thats their optinion and yo have no right to force your views on them" thus is the circle of stupidity in human kind.

in the world we live in today the only fair way to settle this RE5 issue is to include white zombies into the mix. then someone will just come along and complain the game is prejudice to all africans (black or white) and we'll be back to where we started. so really there is no way to settle this because everyone has differeing views and no one wants to "chill out! its not that serious" because to some bored person, it will be.

besides if they changed the game so that the zombies were a mix of caucasian, black, hispanic or asian peoples, there would still be someone to argue that, no matter what, the game is a murder simulator. and no, that persons religion or belief system has nothing to do with it. its their morales (no matter how screwed up you think they are). the only argument to the "murder sim" argument will be to claim "well the protaganist is only killing in self defense, as you can see he's being attacked unprovoked," to which someone will no doubt respond "self defense or not, this violence is targetting our children" Then where does that leave us?

so, no matter what someone is going to get pissed off and be offended at any little thing. we as a community should just ignore it and agree that we're all gamers here and so we should look at this as a game, and not in any other lights.

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« Reply #103 on: August 02, 2007, 09:42:33 AM »
All of this racism non-issue is ridiculous.
If some black dude was shooting white "zombies", would people make such a fuss about it?
It's just a game, get over it people.
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #104 on: August 02, 2007, 10:13:44 AM »
i wouldnt get too charge on race or ethnicity on the boards..its a charged subject, one which most people don't understand. If you really want to get into such a thing read wikipedia and leave it off the boards. I swear people have a really low understanding on the history of the world, and for most people its distorted and wrong.

my understanding is that the game is another biological outbreak(hence the name BioHazard) in a secluded area, this time in a place where people are predominately darker skinned, maybe in Africa, the southern united states, Haiti..the list goes on.
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #105 on: August 04, 2007, 12:12:46 AM »
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Originally posted by: Ghisy
All of this racism non-issue is ridiculous.
If some black dude was shooting white "zombies", would people make such a fuss about it?
It's just a game, get over it people.


As an african I feel the need to rebuttal.

Has there ever been a black man who killed a many anonymous white people in a game? Please, prove me wrong.

Having a built, overly-diesel white person kill hundred's of black people is provoking the subject of racism. How, you ask? Well, this sh!t has been going on for over 500 years. And really, that's the only problem. French domination, British domination, Dutch domination; it's all the same in Africa. Why can't somebody of African decent take care of his own country? I don't know.....this topic has evolved to something else.

I wouldn't feel motivated to talk about such things, but I'm drunk and am in the state of mind that is one-sided; or in other words, I am neglecting other perspectives. Still, the difference is: if a black man went to Spain and killed many Spaniards, I wouldn't feel the need to talk about. Hell, that's just the way the game was set-up. There are many black people all over the world; it only makes sense since people originated in Africa. Still, when a white Special task force agent is sent in to take down a sort-of viral threat, I guess it just stems back to the fact that Africa, although great and full of recourses, has been sent back a couple hundred years in the civilization time line because of outside forces dominating them, and this is just another example of an outside force intervening; for better or for worse.

The back-story to the game could clear up all sorts of things, but as it stands now, it's just disgraceful and simply, just hurts my feelings. I don't know why.....It's hard to explain. I just wish it was easier for others to understand how I felt no matter how "blind" or "racist" you all see me for saying such things.

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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #106 on: August 04, 2007, 02:08:17 AM »
I enjoy the "devil's advocate" position in debates so lets see if I can do this. And guess what, I'm also drinking at the moment so this should be "fair and balanced"

Note: This is nothing personal, its just an entertaining state of affairs.

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Having a built, overly-diesel white person kill hundred's of black people is provoking the subject of racism. How, you ask? Well, this sh!t has been going on for over 500 years.


This kind of racism has been going on for hundreds of years. If it takes a hardcore game like this to raise the ire of so many people then isn't this a bit absurd? The Spanish didn't bat an eyelid when RE4 was shown to be centred around a village with a lot of people which spoke a language not unlike their own.

Maybe its the visual difference between the attacker and the targets in this latest demo, but just because it is more evident doesn't mean it is intentional.

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There are many black people all over the world; it only makes sense since people originated in Africa.


I don't argue with this train of thought this is more of a personal thing, but yes, i believe that humans originated in what we know as Africa and then migrated over time. Move along. Nothing to see here.

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]Still, when a white Special task force agent is sent in to take down a sort-of viral threat, I guess it just stems back to the fact that Africa, although great and full of recourses, has been sent back a couple hundred years in the civilization time line because of outside forces dominating them, and this is just another example of an outside force intervening; for better or for worse.


You sound like you are playing the pity card at the current time, which is disappointing. There is a lot of potential in African nations for development at this time, even though there are significant issues such as drought, famine and war. I could cite the example of Ubuntu Linux, which was started up by a entrepreneur in South Africa a few years ago, which is at the forefront of the open-source movement in the technology industry, no matter how loudly GoldenPhoenix shouts to the contrary. If you look past the mainstream news you'll see that there is indication that things will improve in this region in the short-term (AIDS rate decreasing, financial aid increasing).

Its not definitive, but I do believe that things will change. Especially if that King Of Nigeria fellow gets his money out to those fortunate victims (i mean investors!)


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The back-story to the game could clear up all sorts of things, but as it stands now, it's just disgraceful and simply, just hurts my feelings. I don't know why.....It's hard to explain. I just wish it was easier for others to understand how I felt no matter how "blind" or "racist" you all see me for saying such things.


Nah, I don't blame you for feeling this way. You're not the only one. But there is always two sides to each story (no matter how misguided each 'story' could be). If you're willing to pass judgment based on three minutes of video then you should wait until you understand the background of the story before you grab your torch and/or pitchfork.

For the record: Chris's big right-hand haymaker in the video was great. I didn't notice he hit one of the 'locals' until after it happened. And the video reminded me a lot of the movie "Black Hawk Down" in terms of animosity between American soliders and African locals.


EDIT: Cleaned up the stuff I didn't say. Saving space for the pending hate-replies.  

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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #107 on: August 04, 2007, 06:34:17 AM »
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Has there ever been a black man who killed a many anonymous white people in a game? Please, prove me wrong.


GTA San Andreas? =)

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« Reply #108 on: August 04, 2007, 07:48:23 AM »
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« Reply #109 on: August 04, 2007, 08:26:48 AM »
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« Reply #110 on: August 04, 2007, 08:27:57 AM »
Wow you messed up that quote bad.....
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« Reply #111 on: August 04, 2007, 09:14:18 AM »
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Originally posted by: Ghisy
All of this racism non-issue is ridiculous.
If some black dude was shooting white "zombies", would people make such a fuss about it?
It's just a game, get over it people.


As an african I feel the need to rebuttal.

Has there ever been a black man who killed a many anonymous white people in a game? Please, prove me wrong.

Having a built, overly-diesel white person kill hundred's of black people is provoking the subject of racism. How, you ask? Well, this sh!t has been going on for over 500 years. And really, that's the only problem. French domination, British domination, Dutch domination; it's all the same in Africa. Why can't somebody of African decent take care of his own country? I don't know.....this topic has evolved to something else.

I like where you are going with that. Why not let the black people continue doing what they have been doing for as long as I can remember... kill each other. I mean there is no one more racist against black people than other black people. So why not end the debate and just have a Black S.T.A.R.S. team member go into Africa and explain how the virus probably originated there so now they are going to the source to take care of it. Why not just let the game be some thinly veiled way to just mirror some of the things going on in the real world only changing the real topics into something of fiction with exaggerated results.  No one is gonna make a fuss over a black man running into a black community and shooting up a bunch of black people. No one is gonna be offended if you suggest that [strike]AIDS[/strike] the T-Virus really originated in Africa and thats where all the testing got out of control and the epidemic started[/conspiracy theory].

and just because I have to say it, here goes... THATS RACIST!!!

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« Reply #112 on: August 04, 2007, 09:15:45 AM »
mortal kombat 2...jax was the man!

anywho this games made by asians..so its a game made by asians where a white guy kills lots of black people
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« Reply #113 on: August 04, 2007, 09:22:30 AM »
The Perm said it, "Asians don't care about Black people" [/Kanye West]  

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« Reply #114 on: August 04, 2007, 09:24:13 AM »
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Originally posted by: Ghisy
All of this racism non-issue is ridiculous.
If some black dude was shooting white "zombies", would people make such a fuss about it?
It's just a game, get over it people.


As an african I feel the need to rebuttal.

Has there ever been a black man who killed a many anonymous white people in a game? Please, prove me wrong.

Having a built, overly-diesel white person kill hundred's of black people is provoking the subject of racism. How, you ask? Well, this sh!t has been going on for over 500 years. And really, that's the only problem. French domination, British domination, Dutch domination; it's all the same in Africa. Why can't somebody of African decent take care of his own country? I don't know.....this topic has evolved to something else.

I like where you are going with that. Why not let the black people continue doing what they have been doing for as long as I can remember... kill each other. I mean there is no one more racist against black people than other black people. So why not end the debate and just have a Black S.T.A.R.S. team member go into Africa and explain how the virus probably originated there so now they are going to the source to take care of it. Why not just let the game be some thinly veiled way to just mirror some of the things going on in the real world only changing the real topics into something of fiction with exaggerated results.  No one is gonna make a fuss over a black man running into a black community and shooting up a bunch of black people. No one is gonna be offended if you suggest that [strike]AIDS[/strike] the T-Virus really originated in Africa and thats where all the testing got out of control and the epidemic started[/conspiracy theory].

and just because I have to say it, here goes... THATS RACIST!!!



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« Reply #115 on: August 04, 2007, 09:45:29 AM »

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I don't even know how to reply to this.....

Don't worry, that was the perfect reply

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« Reply #116 on: August 04, 2007, 10:11:49 AM »
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« Reply #117 on: August 04, 2007, 12:59:40 PM »
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Has there ever been a black man who killed a many anonymous white people in a game? Please, prove me wrong.


GTA San Andreas? =)

Thank you! I didn't even think of this one.
Now can we talk about RE5??
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« Reply #118 on: August 04, 2007, 01:56:22 PM »
Look, guys, if there's anything to be learned from Avenue Q, then it's that everyone's a little bit racist.

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« Reply #119 on: August 04, 2007, 02:14:33 PM »
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Has there ever been a black man who killed a many anonymous white people in a game? Please, prove me wrong.


GTA San Andreas? =)

Thank you! I didn't even think of this one.
Now can we talk about RE5??


No problem =)

I hope RE 5 comes out on Wii! though Wii is a white system . . .

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« Reply #120 on: August 04, 2007, 02:25:30 PM »
I'm still waiting on the superior DVD enabled BLACK Wii that is supposed to be announced at any time now.


oh no... don't tell me.... it can't be true... say it ain't so...
Nintendo doesn't care about Black Wii's!!!???

anyway, back on topic.
Since I haven't read anything in this thread that is further back than 30-35 post, wasn't it said that RE5 isn't coming out till sometime in '09?
and with GTA IV being delay by 6months who thinks that Wii versions of both these games are possibly coming?
Wii versions being favored over their PS3 counterparts, not the 360 versions of the games.

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« Reply #121 on: August 04, 2007, 03:08:54 PM »
With Wii's market spanning all ages possible it would be silly NOT to release these games.

Imagine GTA with Wii controls, you could beat someone with a bat as if it were real!  

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« Reply #122 on: August 04, 2007, 03:10:56 PM »
If there is a "DVD Wii", and not a software update, I'll be seriously disappointed, even though I'd never use it.
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« Reply #123 on: August 04, 2007, 03:41:06 PM »
I don't see why they couldn't do both, by just release a special SD card that holds the DVD key that will install onto the onboard memory.

 

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« Reply #124 on: August 04, 2007, 03:49:38 PM »
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I'm still waiting on the superior DVD enabled BLACK Wii that is supposed to be announced at any time now.


oh no... don't tell me.... it can't be true... say it ain't so...
Nintendo doesn't care about Black Wii's!!!???

anyway, back on topic.
Since I haven't read anything in this thread that is further back than 30-35 post, wasn't it said that RE5 isn't coming out till sometime in '09?
and with GTA IV being delay by 6months who thinks that Wii versions of both these games are possibly coming?
Wii versions being favored over their PS3 counterparts, not the 360 versions of the games.


The black Wii is supposed to have a longer remote from what i hear. Also once i get it, i'm never going back.

now to be serious for a moment i too thought about GTA possibly being ported to wii during the delay. I stated this in the IV thread but i don't think anyone acknowledged it. now with that said:

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