Topic: Miyamoto reafirms Wii Music is still coming along

[Ian Sane]

Not everyone like rock music, like non-gamers

Are you suggesting that non-gamers don't like rock music.  I would seriously beg to differ.  I figure that is easily the most universal genre of music to go with.  If it was all current stuff then yeah, it would be limited, but with a good mix of new stuff and classics it has very universal appeal with people of all ages.  Okay maybe really old geezers don't like rock music but compared to classical music it's no contest.  I like classical music a fair bit but it's niche.  It's inoffensive in that everyone CAN like it or at least tolerate it.  But kids and teenagers wouldn't be interested and I think most people if given the choice between rock or classical would pick rock.  Classical music is somewhat elitist.  It's of a high culture ie: not mainstream, not casual, not non-gamer.  Nintendo typically thinks that being non-offensive is the same as having mass appeal but it isn't.  That's why they're so often associated as being for kids.

Actually, haven't there been rumblings that Wii Play is more about "jamming" than rhythm gaming?

That's pretty cool.  Well I think it is as a musician.  Though I worry that Nintendo shys a little too much from the competitive nature of games.  A "jamming" game sounds so them.  Guitar Hero is a challenge and you can like suck and lose.  The game requires you to be good at it.  Nintendo's attitude with non-games is a little more politically correct.  Like having goals and objectives that can be won or lost make people feel bad about themselves.  It's the "everyone's special" routine.  I think Nintendo could make a good rhythm game but focusing on jamming is sort of a cop out.  It's funny that they really challenged videogames by making incredibly safe games.  They shouldn't be so afraid of scaring the casuals.

Rock Band attracts the same audience but does so in a way that's actually cool, you know?  Wii Sports and Wii Fit in comparison are the videogame equivalent of easy listening.  Nintendo is popular but they sure as hell ain't cool.

[Bill Aurion]

Rock Band is not cool...

Guitar Hero is not cool...

You are part of the problem... =|

[NWR_insanolord]

If I have to not like Guitar Hero to not be part of the problem then I'm pro-problem. I still want Wii Music, though.

[DAaaMan64]

OMG

If I have to not like Guitar Hero to not be part of the problem then I'm pro-problem.

[Bill Aurion]

I don't care if you actually enjoy the game, but to think that either is any "cooler" than DDR (which isn't) is naive...

[Ghisy]

I'm really interested in Wii Music and I'm very curious to know what Miyamoto has up his sleeve!

Speaking of GH, I might pick up GH3 when I'm back to the US on vacation.
Do you guys know if all the copies that are in stores right now are the "fixed" ones?

[Ian Sane]

I don't care if you actually enjoy the game, but to think that either is any "cooler" than DDR (which isn't) is naive...

I actually like DDR more but Rock Band is very much cool in the same way GTA and Halo are.  They're hugely popular games that insecure young males that feel that games have to be mature and such aren't embarassed to play.  Only Rock Band has the advantage that everyone plays it, not just core gamers.

[Morari]

I don't care if you actually enjoy the game, but to think that either is any "cooler" than DDR (which isn't) is naive...

Watching paint dry is "cooler" than DDR. Heck, even real dancing usually makes you look like a dork.

[NWR_insanolord]

I don't care if you actually enjoy the game, but to think that either is any "cooler" than DDR (which isn't) is naive...

Oh, okay. I do think Guitar Hero and Rock Band are cooler because their track lists have what is generally considered cooler music, but the game is still about playing a fake musical instrument and that's not very cool.

[EasyCure]

I don't care if you actually enjoy the game, but to think that either is any "cooler" than DDR (which isn't) is naive...

I actually like DDR more but Rock Band is very much cool in the same way GTA and Halo are.  They're hugely popular games that insecure young males that feel that games have to be mature and such aren't embarassed to play.  Only Rock Band has the advantage that everyone plays it, not just core gamers.

I felt embarrassing just purchasing GH3. If i had a credit card i would of bought it online and had it shipped (despite how i feel about buying things online) because i felt like a dork taking it up to the register.

 I'm usually not so insecure about myself but when i go to a best buy and see a ton of teens in their different groups playing the 5 GH/RB stations they have set up now (thats right, 5. not even near the normal video game section, have them set up on huge flat screens. The 6th set up is for a ONE player Brawl game.. how sad?) and how into it they get, i just can't help but feel embarrassed that i also enjoy the game. I felt like the cashier thought to herself "oh god, its one of THOSE guys" when i bought the stupid thing.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

"serious gamers" shouldn't feel that way.

[animecyberrat]

I had the same problem buying Super Paper Mario, I solved the insecurity issue by taking my nephew with me to the game store. Now I can buy any game I want without worrying about people looking at me funny. (stop judging me) Although that doesn't help the Wii is for little kids perception...

[Spak-Spang]

You people are embarrassed to buy certain games because it is too kiddie or dorkie?

That is sad.

I can understand people not wanting to buy feminine products for your wifes or girlfriends.  I can even understand an embarrassment about buying condoms.

Hell, I can even understand an embarrassment about buying adult rated games, maginzines or whatnot.

I can't understand somebody having that problem about Super Paper Mario, or Mario DDR or something.  Its a freaking game...and if you enjoy the game play it.  Image is not everything.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

*Bought a Playboy video at a music/video store.  VHS, baby.

[ShyGuy]

I remember I was looking for Touch Detective for the DS, I went into a Gamestop with a buddy of mine and was perusing through their DS titles. My buddy decides to help and loudly asks the sales clerk if they have a DS game called Touch Me. The Clerks replies "Touch Me?" "Yeah, my friend is looking for the game called Touch Me."

That was a little embarrassing.

[Stogi]

I'm never embarrassed because I'm da coolest.

Anyway, GH and Rockband, though I don't like them, are not as bad as ddr. At least GH and Rockband are a little more similar, plus the music is much better.

What I want from WiiMusic is freedom; freedom to do and record what ever I please.

[Kairon]

It's funny that they really challenged videogames by making incredibly safe games.

I think it's genius though. Competition can be fun, but fun is not necessarily competition.

Nintendo is popular but they sure as hell ain't cool.

Great quote. &P

[EasyCure]

You people are embarrassed to buy certain games because it is too kiddie or dorkie?

That is sad.

I can understand people not wanting to buy feminine products for your wifes or girlfriends.  I can even understand an embarrassment about buying condoms.

Hell, I can even understand an embarrassment about buying adult rated games, maginzines or whatnot.

I can't understand somebody having that problem about Super Paper Mario, or Mario DDR or something.  Its a freaking game...and if you enjoy the game play it.  Image is not everything.

i only felt slightly embarrased but it didnt stop me from buying it. my girlfriend made jokes that i'm secretely one of those guys that go to best buy just to play GH and RB, i think thats where some of the insecurity comes from.

oh and i've never been embarrassed to buy condoms cuz i always buy the huge box. I walk right up to the counter with a big smile on my face cuz i know the only reason im buying them is because the last box of 50+/100+ condoms went empty that or cuz i'll need them very VERY soon

[LuigiHann]

I'd like if it has a Mario Paint style music editor. Or hell, just port the exact music editor from Mario Paint.

[Maverick]

oh and i've never been embarrassed to buy condoms cuz i always buy the huge box. I walk right up to the counter with a big smile on my face cuz i know the only reason im buying them is because the last box of 50+/100+ condoms went empty that or cuz i'll need them very VERY soon

Condoms are for losers.  There I said it.

[Mario]

I'm never embarrassed because I'm da coolest.

Anyway, GH and Rockband, though I don't like them, are not as bad as ddr. At least GH and Rockband are a little more similar, plus the music is much better.

What I want from WiiMusic is freedom; freedom to do and record what ever I please.

DDR is way better, it actually has benefits.

[Stogi]

oh and i've never been embarrassed to buy condoms cuz i always buy the huge box. I walk right up to the counter with a big smile on my face cuz i know the only reason im buying them is because the last box of 50+/100+ condoms went empty that or cuz i'll need them very VERY soon

Condoms are for losers.  There I said it.

Indeed. *smokes on pipe*

[EasyCure]

oh and i've never been embarrassed to buy condoms cuz i always buy the huge box. I walk right up to the counter with a big smile on my face cuz i know the only reason im buying them is because the last box of 50+/100+ condoms went empty that or cuz i'll need them very VERY soon

Condoms are for losers.  There I said it.

Indeed. *smokes on meat-pipe*

maybe in your lifestyle they are

[Flames_of_chaos]

Jeremy Parish a former Wii Music hater turned to a Wii Music lover

Here is what won him over:

But Nintendo has a slightly more fleshed-out version of the game on display this weekend at Penny Arcade Expo, and despite this version sporting only a few modest tweaks, I think it has won me over. The difference: A sense of purpose. While the game's primary mode remains the same -- a group of faux musicians jamming together and playing individual notes or beats of a predefined music track -- the single-player mode now has added depth. Rather than simply pantomiming music with a phantom backing band, you can record their own personal renditions of each tune's six tracks, including melody, harmony, rhythm and percussion. You can save performances, then splice them into the standard rhythm tracks, allowing you to effectively create a complete custom performance of each track. This also works for group performances, although it has more impact with a single performer.

[NWR_insanolord]

I knew that Nintendo wasn't stupid enough to release a game that was just what we saw at E3.