Topic: Miyamoto reafirms Wii Music is still coming along

[DAaaMan64]

Sorry, after playing it at PAX, the game still blows.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Okay then prove the reason of why it sucks.

[DAaaMan64]

I got bored 25 seconds into playing. Seriously, I watched for about 10 and was like hmm this could be okay actually. Then I played it, proved no incentive to learn how to play the flutes and various instruments, so I didn't.

I also tried the drums, seemed cool, but would probably take almost as much work to learn how to play them as with real drums and still feel 1/4 of the awesome real drums would provide.  Trust me, it was the most underwhelming game of the Wii universe. That and Sluggers.

[Luigi Dude]

Here's a recent video from PAX as well showing the game as well, which makes the game look much better then it's E3 showing as well.
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=MwxSJ1h8OMk&feature=user

Considering Miyamoto is behind this I knew the final product would turn out good.  And this recent video and impressions show that Wii Music is actually turning out, *gasp* good.

[BeautifulShy]

That video has cemented my purchase even more than before.

[DAaaMan64]

Tell you what, if you like cooking mama, you'll like this game.

[BeautifulShy]

I think I will make my own mind up about this game thank you very much.

[DAaaMan64]

Your welcome. I'm just giving impressions.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Sluggers underwhelming? I enjoyed it as much as the original. The only thing that I don't really like about it is the dashing and the challenge mode (it's like the RPG mode in the first one).

Anyways, I'm still looking forward to Wii Music and I am hoping that more music games come out that does not rely on a peripheral that makes the game cost more than 80 dollars.

[Nick DiMola]

Here's a recent video from PAX as well showing the game as well, which makes the game look much better then it's E3 showing as well.
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=MwxSJ1h8OMk&feature=user

Considering Miyamoto is behind this I knew the final product would turn out good.  And this recent video and impressions show that Wii Music is actually turning out, *gasp* good.

In all honesty that still looks pretty boring to me. I'm not saying it won't be polished and well-done, I'm just saying that not everyone is going to be head-over-heels about it. I'm also not saying that you shouldn't be excited, personally I don't really see the draw.

I say this because at the end of the day you still need to play whatever song you selected and the best you can do is play it slower or faster than everyone else. Even when he was ad-libbing, he was still playing it to the notes of the song. A game like that I would hope for something that lets me be totally creative and I'm not sure it really does that. I am still vaguely interested in the conducting mode as I think that has potential to be very interesting because it can be done pretty accurately to real life and actually give you real goals to work towards.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Well I think it's neat but I agree not everyone will like it. But Nick every music game like GH, RB, Samba, Helix your still playing a song you picked. But what Jeremy from 1up said that you can record your own track from either of the 6 music tracks and then splice them into the normal song I think that's neat since the last music game that sort of let you mess around with different tracks of a song was frequency and amplitude.

While yes you are playing a phantom band I think it seems a little more open than your traditional music game where you are bound to the notes that the developer chose and if the note charts seem a little ridiculous people will be scratching their heads if it was a developer mistake or to artificially increase a difficulty of a song (see guitar hero 3).

[KDR_11k]

One thought I just had: Does it score your performance? Even Endless Ocean had scores for some parts that you could work on improving.

[DAaaMan64]

One thought I just had: Does it score your performance? Even Endless Ocean had scores for some parts that you could work on improving.

No it doesn't.  It just lets you save videos or recordings which you can then edit or send to your friends.

Flames_of_chaos, Sluggers was underwhelming because I didn't expect much from it, and thats what I got. I've never played a Mario Baseball game. Strikers > Sluggers.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Well Damaan Strikers is indeed better than Sluggers,  if you compare the transition from the gamecube games to the Wii games  the Soccer one was improved drastically while the baseball one is marginally improved. The main problem I have with Sluggers is all the problems that the gamecube one had still exists in the Wii version but it's still a very enjoyable game.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Eurogamer's impressions

The game works out the notes you play according to the tune you're playing and the style you're playing in. Simple, steady rhythms with no modification play a straight melody, while cutting loose with the controls and improvising around the rhythm (it's shown on the screen by pulsing notes) produce wild, extemporizing solos.

It's a highly unusual and surprising system, and we reckon there's deceptively clever software under Wii Music's hood. The results aren't always pleasant to listen to - they're sometimes downright, hilariously horrible - but you can't argue that the game flawlessly captures the flair, mood and accuracy with which you're playing. There may be no sophistication to performing in Wii Music, but there is most definitely an art to it, and producing a performance that's both expressive and accurate will take practice and skill.

...Playing it is another matter. The Jam mode we sampled is a blast: not a game in any real sense, but a magnificently silly and hugely enjoyable toy. Exactly like Wii Sports, it makes no attempt to realistically simulate the activity it portrays, or provide any complexity or deep competitive challenge to it. Instead, it aims to capture the extrovert, physical feeling and fun of playing an instrument. And Wii Music does something else as well, something precious few music games do: it gives you plenty of room to express yourself...


...More than any Wii release to date, Wii Music is a toy. We don't mean that as a criticism - it's a technically amazing, totally accessible, funny and entertaining toy, and will be a proper riot for anyone in the right kind of loose company. It will probably be misunderstood by many who look for gameplay systems in it rather than suspending disbelief, letting themselves go and expressing themselves through it. Those people love it. And the people watching them from the sofa might even love it a little bit too, through the winces and the gritted teeth.

Although there will apparently be a more traditional note-matching game included, the only other section of the game we tried was the drumkit, which is an entirely a standalone mode. This uses the Wii Fit balance board for the kick drum and hi-hat, and the nunchuk and remote as your sticks. Very disappointingly, motion only controls rhythm, and not which snares, toms and cymbals you hit - the remote would barely be capable of doing it fast and accurately enough, and the nunchuk not at all. So you have to use buttons and stick to select them.

Drum mode

[BeautifulShy]

This game was been rated by the OFLC.
http://Http://mywii.com.au/NewsDetail.aspx?id=2519

[Stogi]

Miyamoto is a genius 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hjUK1L_wOA

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39294.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfWpFTS9yaM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZy3ogzJCPo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th9RRoDVt1E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qibZaUlpALc

More info here: http://www.balanceboardblog.com/search/label/wii%20music

[BeautifulShy]

I like those videos.

[Kairon]

I think that music choice can prove a MAJOR asset or hindrance to this game. Playing the familiar and jazzy Mario theme is PERFECT for the game, but... as in my impressions, playing a complex, unknown melody, maybe even a classical one, can be absolutely disastrous.

[Ian Sane]

The whole thing still sounds like it's for people that find Guitar Hero/Rock Band too damn hard.  Even reading positive impressions the concept just doesn't sound entertaining to me at all.

Maybe it's because I am an instrumentalist that I don't care.  Pretending to play an insturment doesn't interest me or my friends because we can do it for real.  Why jump around like Sesame Street classmates pretending to play the Mario theme when we can bust out our guitars and keyboards and play it for real?  It took a while for me to give Guitar Hero a chance because for me there was no wish fulfillment in playing a toy guitar.  I can do the real thing.  I like Guitar Hero because it's a solid game that I'm naturally pretty good at and I find fun.  It's like DDR to me but with music that's more my style.

Wii Music seems to not have that "game" part of it.  To me the ability to succeed or fail and high scores and all that stuff is the whole damn point.  That Korg game for the DS?  That interests me because even if it's not a game I can use it as an instrument.  Wii Music sounds like it just lacks anything that I want in a music related videogame.

[Spak-Spang]

But adding classical music helps class up the game, and helps attract non-gamers, which this game is designed for.

[Luigi Dude]

I think that music choice can prove a MAJOR asset or hindrance to this game. Playing the familiar and jazzy Mario theme is PERFECT for the game, but... as in my impressions, playing a complex, unknown melody, maybe even a classical one, can be absolutely disastrous.

Your calling Dvořák New World Symphony unknown?  It's one of the most famous symphonies of all time.

[redgiemental]

I still think this games looks dull as hell.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

So was Tetris.

[Flames_of_chaos]

The whole thing still sounds like it's for people that find Guitar Hero/Rock Band too damn hard.  Even reading positive impressions the concept just doesn't sound entertaining to me at all.

Maybe it's because I am an instrumentalist that I don't care.  Pretending to play an insturment doesn't interest me or my friends because we can do it for real.  Why jump around like Sesame Street classmates pretending to play the Mario theme when we can bust out our guitars and keyboards and play it for real?  It took a while for me to give Guitar Hero a chance because for me there was no wish fulfillment in playing a toy guitar.  I can do the real thing.  I like Guitar Hero because it's a solid game that I'm naturally pretty good at and I find fun.  It's like DDR to me but with music that's more my style.

Wii Music seems to not have that "game" part of it.  To me the ability to succeed or fail and high scores and all that stuff is the whole damn point.  That Korg game for the DS?  That interests me because even if it's not a game I can use it as an instrument.  Wii Music sounds like it just lacks anything that I want in a music related videogame.

Ian I think you got it all wrong, while GH and Rock Band follow the traditional mold of games Wii Music doesn't it gives player the freedom to improvise on music, like one of the new features allows you to record one of 6 different music tracks and then splice it to another track I think that's awesome!! For traditional music games if you play the note it plays the note of the song and if you don't you usually get a bad note. With Wii Music it's more about rhythm if you go out of sync then the music is you are playing to will sound funny and messed up so Wii Music will encourage people to tighten up and be in sync as if you were playing a real instrument.

While Wii Music may be considered a "toy" so can guitar hero and rock band or other peripheral based music games because you aren't playing on a real guitar or drums or whatever you are playing on plastic instruments. I personally applaud Nintendo for making a music game that doesn't require a 100 - 200 dollar bundle.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy music games of all types I just dislike the hate that Wii Music is getting because it doesn't follow the mold of standard music games, Wii Music will probably be popular and will diversify the music game genre.  I think it's great how the Wii is getting the most music games this generation and there will be a music game that will appeal to at least one type of person on the platform which is a wonderful thing.