Author Topic: Wii is so not hardcoreend (Read 42863 times)

GoldenPhoenix · « **on:** September 07, 2006, 05:07:40 PM »

Here are some comments from a writer at IGN Playstation. I wanted to see what you guys thought

“How is the Wii the only right choice for gamers? Contrary to what you believe, Wii games for the most part ignore “hardcore” gamers. Just look at its lineup. It’s filled with games like Elebits, Super Monkey Ball, Duck Hunt and Excite Truck. It has a handful of promising games, take Super Mario Galaxy and Wario Ware, but the rest hardly qualify as harcore, if that’s the point you want to make. Hell, even its best games, like Mario, Zelda and Metroid, wouldn’t really qualify as hardcore.”

“The Wii may outsell it (PS3) at launch, but no one cares about those numbers…With the Wii, on the other hand, developers hesitate calling it a next-gen system now, which isn’t so hot…and this is something both hardcore and casual gamers will definitely notice.”

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:09:41 PM »

Ahahaha, okay, I guess HARDCORE is GRAN TURISMO, METAL GEAR SOLID, and GENJI (MASSIVE DAMAGE) 2!

(So yeah, that's why this guy works in IGN Playstation...)

Blue Plant · « **Reply #2 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:10:52 PM »

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"The Wii may outsell it (PS3) at launch, but no one cares about those numbers…"

He certainly would if the situation were reversed.

wandering · « **Reply #3 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:13:36 PM »

I prefer softcore, personally.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #4 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:14:17 PM »

It is stuff like this that leads me to believe that alot of Sony's fanbase is starting to go on the defensive and is getting a tad bit worried.

blackfootsteps · « **Reply #5 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:14:34 PM »

Heh, so Wario Ware qualifies as hardcore but Metroid doesn't? Wha-? This guy is on something, that is as essential as the air we breath.

Hardware numbers do matter, look at the number of games that were PS2 only or ported there because of this.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #6 on:** September 07, 2006, 06:02:49 PM »

If "hardcore" means tons of useless stat managing, confusing menus, boring dialougue, and ridiculous button combos then count me out. Metroid is hardcore enough for me, thnx (which, seriously, it is. Pure exploration, puzzles solving, and a story delievered by scanning is NOT for the casual gamer).

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2006, 06:42:32 PM »

He doesn't seem to realize that Nintendo does NOT want to portray a hardcore image with the Wii. True, there are some games which might qualify as hardcore because the main audience interested in them are the fans (like Zelda and Metroid), but everything from the design of the console to the name portrays a light, easy breezy experience rather than the uber high tech image the XBOX 360 and the PS3.

Also, if there is something the DS Lite has shown us is that sometimes the most captivating experiences are offered by simple, unique and fun games (like Animal Crossing, Brain age and Nintendogs).

So not being "hardcore" doesn't always mean the system will fail.

jasonditz · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2006, 07:28:51 PM »

This is the 21st century dammit, it's not hardcore if you don't have to take out a second mortgage to buy it.

mantidor · « **Reply #9 on:** September 07, 2006, 07:31:28 PM »

Metroid is the most hardcore, anti casual gaming franchise ever, and is probably the reason Nintendo doesn't like it as much as their other children.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #10 on:** September 07, 2006, 07:54:06 PM »

"The game, hardcore it is not. The player, hardcore it is, BITCH."

--YODA

Strell · « **Reply #11 on:** September 07, 2006, 08:05:06 PM »

How can a system offer games from the NES and not be considered hardcore?

You don't get more hardcore than that, unless you're a pansy FF7 PSX brat kid.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #12 on:** September 07, 2006, 08:06:14 PM »

Bingo. That's the arrowhead of the "mainstream".

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #13 on:** September 07, 2006, 08:39:24 PM »

LOL

ok, go play some Madden and Generic Shooter 23 kthnx

King of Twitch · « **Reply #14 on:** September 07, 2006, 08:43:56 PM »

Don't know what to make of it either, VG :\

KDR_11k · « **Reply #15 on:** September 07, 2006, 09:18:09 PM »

Of course the Wii isn't hardcore. Hardcore games died around the time games like Madden and Final Fantasy 7 hit the mainstream. Noone wants to be confined to a tiny, complaining niche of the market when they can just grab a large number of undiscerning customers that won't complain about direct clones or bad movie tie-ins. What company DOES appeal to the hardcore these days?

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #16 on:** September 07, 2006, 09:18:14 PM »

Wow, that picture is amazing.

Mario · « **Reply #17 on:** September 07, 2006, 10:13:15 PM »

Haha what an idiot. This guy owned HIMSELF by revealing his hasn't played Super Monkey Ball.

What's his definition of hardcore? This is like a post on gamefaqs by a 13 year old. Where do IGN get these people from?

It's funny how Nintendo fans criticise Nintendo but Sony fans never criticise Sony and just lash out at Nintendo as well.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #18 on:** September 07, 2006, 11:10:46 PM »

Here is everything he said, it is from IGN roundtable BTW You have to be an insider member to see this.

Juan Castro, IGN Playstation:

How is the Wii the only right choice for gamers? Contrary to what you believe, Wii games for the most part ignore "hardcore" gamers. Just look at its lineup. It's filled with games like Elebits, Super Monkey Ball, Duck Hunt and Excite Truck. It has a handful of promising games, take Super Mario Galaxy and Wario Ware, but the rest hardly qualify as harcore, if that's the point you want to make. Hell, even its best games, like Mario, Zelda and Metroid, wouldn't really qualify as hardcore.

As for the European delay and lack of US units this holiday season...

Yikes. It's obviously a negative thing in the short term, but few people expected the PS3 to hit its stride right after launch, anyway. Like the 360, it will probably take the PS3 a while before it finds its footing. The Wii may outsell it at launch, but no one cares about those numbers. Now, if the Wii is still outselling the PS3 in three years, well, that's another story. But given Sony's strategy in trying to "futureproof" the system, chances are the PS3 will still appear irrefutably next-gen years from now. With the Wii, on the other hand, developers hesitate calling it a next-gen system now, which isn't so hot...and this is something both hardcore and casual gamers will definitely notice.

And yes, it's easy to hate a company who wants to "force" very expensive change upon people, but the PS3 (like the PS2) before it, appeals to older gamers who have a better chance of affording it. And, just like Jeremy likes to point out, Sony is banking on the iPod people out there -- those bazillions of people who gladly pay upwards of 350 bucks for a music player."

ShyGuy · « **Reply #19 on:** September 08, 2006, 12:17:56 AM »

$600>$350 Phail.

RiskyChris · « **Reply #20 on:** September 08, 2006, 12:36:23 AM »

Wtf? Ninty is obviously targetting the iPod demographic. You know, the sheep who definitely don't have the brain power to comprehend 20 buttons.

Blue Plant · « **Reply #21 on:** September 08, 2006, 12:38:56 AM »

Those with said brain power are sharks...

Terranigma Freak · « **Reply #22 on:** September 08, 2006, 03:31:20 AM »

You guys obviously missed the real message here. What he's trying to say is since the Wii probably won't play DVDs and CDs, you won't get any hardcore porn on this system. The PS3 will deliver High Definition Hardcore Porn on Blu-Ray.

Ceric · « **Reply #23 on:** September 08, 2006, 04:09:07 AM »

Thus, like the VHS, become the format of choose. Ushering in a new glorious age of H games and litigation.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #24 on:** September 08, 2006, 04:19:50 AM »

Hmmm... seems like someone is a little nervous. Don't be scared Sony fanbois Nintendo will let you down nice and easy... unless the Reginator is there and then it will be hard and painful!

It makes me laugh how people could still have faith in a system that has so many problems it's ridiculous. Go buy a 360 you retards, it has all the same games and will be at least $200 cheaper.

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