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RE:OFFICIAL Online mouse_clicker vs the world thread
« Reply #100 on: July 02, 2004, 12:21:55 PM »
OOOOHHH!!! SO Touche .  Though I think professional behavior in the east has an entirely different definition than the west.  Are there ever even sexual harrasment suits?  (Don't answer that we're already so off topic.)
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« Reply #101 on: July 14, 2004, 10:34:29 PM »
So is mouse_clicker the argumentative type? Allright. Hey big boy. I think Star Ocean: The Second Story is quite simply the best RPG of all time. Deny me?

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RE: OFFICIAL Online mouse_clicker vs the world thread
« Reply #102 on: July 14, 2004, 11:41:04 PM »
Donkey Kong is better.

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« Reply #103 on: July 15, 2004, 12:05:39 AM »
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So is mouse_clicker the argumentative type?


Wahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You're new here, aren't you?

Oh, and Grandia II is by far the best RPG ever made- anyone who disagrees obviously hasn't played it.
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« Reply #104 on: July 15, 2004, 12:48:12 AM »
*raises hand*

I have and the original Grandia and Skies is better. If anyone disagrees, they are wrong.  

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« Reply #105 on: July 15, 2004, 12:52:19 AM »
Admittedly the original Grandia is extremely good, indeed right behind 2, but it's sequel improved on the formula and was better overall.

Skies of Arcadia is amazing, too, but I can't let a game where the average random monster encounter is literally every 1.5 seconds be considered the best ever.  
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RE: OFFICIAL Online mouse_clicker vs the world thread
« Reply #106 on: July 15, 2004, 05:26:53 AM »
Grandia 2 is inferior to Anachronox, period.

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« Reply #107 on: July 15, 2004, 06:06:01 AM »
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Admittedly the original Grandia is extremely good, indeed right behind 2, but it's sequel improved on the formula and was better overall.

Skies of Arcadia is amazing, too, but I can't let a game where the average random monster encounter is literally every 1.5 seconds be considered the best ever.


Are you playing Skies of Arcadia, or the GCN version?  Because you really exaggerate the random battle encounter rate .  And if you have a problem, equip the White Map.  The random battle encounter rate goes down quite a bit.

And has anyone played Panzer Dragoon Saga?  I'm getting it in about 2 months .

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« Reply #108 on: July 15, 2004, 07:12:41 AM »
Why are we talking about RPGs?  Isn't this thread about online gaming?

Oh and Super Mario RPG is the best RPG ever.

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« Reply #109 on: July 15, 2004, 07:27:41 AM »
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Why are we talking about RPGs?  Isn't this thread about online gaming?

Oh and Super Mario RPG is the best RPG ever.


Oh... Well it did get off topic awhile ago.  And as for SMRPG being the best RPG.... well you are entitled to your opinion .

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« Reply #110 on: July 15, 2004, 10:13:54 AM »
Ian Sane's opinion happens to be a very good one.
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« Reply #111 on: July 15, 2004, 10:42:12 AM »
Hm, yes, Mario & Luigi was definitely more awesome than traditional RPGs, but as far as traditional RPGs go, Anachronox takes the cake.

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« Reply #112 on: July 15, 2004, 06:18:26 PM »
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Ian Sane's opinion happens to be a very good one.


I never said he had a bad opinion, I just implied that I disagreed .

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« Reply #113 on: July 15, 2004, 07:13:29 PM »
"Why are we talking about RPGs? Isn't this thread about online gaming?"

No, you are just supposed to be against Mousie...

And Mario & Luigi is the best RPG, with the other two Mario RPGs right at it's heels...
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« Reply #114 on: July 15, 2004, 10:08:25 PM »
Didn't SUPER make a thread for this reason exactly?  To get back on topic...
ONLINE IS TEH RULEZ!!!
Seriously though if the Revolution isn't online, I'll be pissed.  If you can wi-fi connect DSeseses (teehee I need sleep...), you could wi-fi revolutions with a linksys or whatever.  I'm sure Nintendo's goal is getting everyone connected to some high speed service to ensure it is easy for all there consumers to connect.  I think that is why Nitnendo seems to be stressing wireless so much as of late because population-dense Japan has various hot spots and probably the occasional wireless router- so it is much easier for the average joe, and non-bill paying kids to gain access to online gaming.  
Accessibility is why the GCN's lan mode fails at life also its creation/ separation goes against Miyamoto-sama's wish that Nintendo products be an out of the box experience.  Writing this I was questioning why Nintendo didn't just include the adapter in the design of the gamecube, chalking it up to conspiracies against online gaming, but it is that Nintendo is a business that gives people what they want.  Do I want to hunt for an accessory that lets you play online? No, but what if they gave you a cube with built in broadband and you used a modem.  Or worse yet the reverse.  I know I'd be a touch miffed.

So a much better hypothesis (relative ) that I've come up with is that Nintendo releases their two online enabling accessories going against their 'out of the box gaming' ideal.  This ain't gonna fly sez Nintendo.  We've just made it a task to get online gaming, we've split those that want to game online into to two factions and the cube isn't meeting expectations sez Nintendo.  According to the numbers, more people will have broadband next gen sez Nintendo demographilogists.  Someone interjects 'even with one kind of connection, Xbox live! is losing money by cubed meters'.  Let's wait til next gen to do anything sez Nintendo.
Oohhh, some fans are going to be pissed says Nintendo exec.
Hmm, we'll have to put a face out there so loveable that they'll have to understand sez Nintendo exec 2.
Only one man can do this, a co-conspirator for Kirby and SSB games... Iwata! Iwata for president sez nintendo exec 3.
Great! so what do we have in the meantime until next gen? sez nintendo exec.
Connectivity? sez nintendo exec 2.
We're going to need Miyamoto in on this too... sez Nintendo exec 1.

I am praying that nintendo's scrutiny for online gaming at home comes down to the fact that they can't feasibly implement it now (or couldn't then) while giving the options they wanted to give their fans.  Iwata is the new president and in charge of boosting moral.  You can come of stronger as a leader if you flat out deny scenarios that your own company has thought of before.  
For example, just say a reporter asks Iwata, "Isn't there anything new you could do with online gaming?"  If Iwata responds there is nothing significant that can be added with the feature for the expense, he is sticking to his guns and being the figure head that he is supposed to be.  As much as I hate reading his mantra-like responses, what is the alternative?
"Isn't there anything new you could do with online gaming?" - well we have a bunch of ideas, but we can't implement them, so.. sorry suckers, enjoy PSO and buy our next console for those.
I do hope that Iwata's guns begin to rust before the launch of the Revolution and Nintendo begins to embrace at least the possibilities.  The way Iwata continues on nobody will ever believe Nintendo titles will be on-enabled.
How much control does Nintendo of America, Europe, Australia (lol) have over Nintendo of Japan?  Can they at least influence there decisions?
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RE:OFFICIAL Online mouse_clicker vs the world thread
« Reply #115 on: July 15, 2004, 10:21:04 PM »
I think the reason this thread got off topic is because anything that can be said about online gameplay already has been numerous times.
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« Reply #116 on: July 15, 2004, 11:04:22 PM »
True, but I still would like to know the influence the lesser Nintendo's have.  Is it a suggestion box type thing, can the region submit what they've observed about their respective region to Nintendo HQ and expect Nintendo of Japan to do something with their observations?
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« Reply #117 on: July 16, 2004, 03:29:42 AM »
Hm, the recent pro-Nintendo talk on Gamespy makes me think they're negotiating with Nintendo or something. Maybe those negotiations involve the Rev's online service they sounded pretty sure about the Rev going online...

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« Reply #118 on: July 16, 2004, 07:20:36 AM »
"Is it a suggestion box type thing, can the region submit what they've observed about their respective region to Nintendo HQ and expect Nintendo of Japan to do something with their observations?"

No apples in the vending machine PLEASE!

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« Reply #119 on: July 17, 2004, 02:44:57 PM »
Oh, don't worry, there'll be plenty of precious apples for you.

As for RPGs, I like SMRPG , FF2 and Ultima Exodus(NES).

And the Revolution better have a legit online option.


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« Reply #120 on: July 21, 2004, 06:08:58 AM »
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Oh, and Grandia II is by far the best RPG ever made- anyone who disagrees obviously hasn't played it.
Damn; I almost agree- the ending to Grandia II almost brought a tear to my eye...damn Dreamcast...

Anywho, just to disagree, I'm still volleying between Chrono Trigger and Star Ocean I...hard to decide the best RPG between the two.

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« Reply #121 on: July 21, 2004, 07:12:16 AM »
What about Star Ocean II?

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RE: OFFICIAL Online mouse_clicker vs the world thread
« Reply #122 on: August 03, 2004, 09:51:15 AM »
Oh boy Oh Boy Oh Boy.  See the newly announced game, Shenmue ONLINE?!  Doesn't that just make you 100% excited that Sega has embraced the online community?!  Aren't you all totally excited for this groundbreaking ONLINE title?!

What do you mean "no?"

What do you mean "blasphemy?"
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« Reply #123 on: August 03, 2004, 10:29:55 AM »
"See the newly announced game, Shenmue ONLINE?! Doesn't that just make you 100% excited that Sega has embraced the online community?! Aren't you all totally excited for this groundbreaking ONLINE title?!"

I'm a pretty pro-online guy but I can't defend that.  Mostly because I'm not at all interested in it.  That's an example of making a title online for the sake of making it online.  It's as bad as those really crummy games we saw back in 1996 that took a popular 2D game (Bubsy, Earthworm Jim) and made it 3D for no reason other than to make it 3D.  Back then I was pro-3D but I was against 3D for the sake of 3D.  I recognize that 2D and 3D can co-exist just as now I feel that online and offline can co-exist.

Online allows for new possibilities but it shouldn't be shoehorned into games that don't lend themselves to it.

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« Reply #124 on: August 11, 2004, 02:20:08 AM »
Final Fantasy 11 was the first & last online game I will buy.  It was:
- boring compared to other FFs (weak story)
- grew tired of rude people
- grew tired of rude people (I realize that's the same reason, but it was such an *important* reason, it's worth listing twice)
- grew tired of the constant & pointless leveling up
- the monthly fee is burning a whole in my wallet

Online gaming may be "revolutionary", but I don't think it will ever attract the mainstream (read: $profitable$) gamer.  It just isn't as much fun and/or worth the cost, and I predict like PC online games, it will be a small (<5%), niche community.

Nintendo is ignoring online gaming, but I don't see it hurting their bottom line.   The small 1% who abandoned Nintendo for Xbox/PS2 Online don't matter, because Nintendo is still rolling in the greenbacks.
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