Topic: Microsoft's Xbox Kinect - Nov 4th 2010

[BlackNMild2k1]

Actually there are are few more requirements: http://www.vg247.com/2010/10/05/entire-kinect-manual-photographed-play-distances-power-details-more/

Your supposed to stand 6 feet from the sensor when you play by yourself, but what about if a friend wants to play too?
now the both of you must stand 8 feet from the camera.

and if the camera is having issues seeing you (sorry black people )....
try wearing different color clothing, something that stands out from your background.

you need to be more like this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6OeNNI_FXo

and less like this guy:


also don't forget, that if you happen to be wearing something that matches something behind you


Don't just take it off and throw it to the floor, because Kinect don't like messy floors.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Ubisoft announces a new Kinect game today as well.

Fighters Uncaged

looks like your gonna need more room than 8 feet from the TV and 4-5 feet across on either side.
Your gonna want to make sure there are no other people standing around and no lamps or breakable items anywhere near you.

This also looks really damn tiring.

[King of Twitch]

My oh my. What a peripheral. Somewhere in a box in your closet, a Virtual Boy is laughing itself to sleep.



Since MS is so fond of comparisons, here's one right now:

[TJ Spyke]

Even if the pricepoint wasn't a factor (which it is, I bet a lot of people who have some interest in Kinect will not get it because it costs $150), I bet a lot more people will not be getting it because of how much space you need for it. I don't have the space to be six feet away, or for all that space around me.

[Ian Sane]

The more I find out about Kinect the more I am in utter shock that this a real product that will be released in stores soon.

If I was in charge of a videogame company and someone was trying to sell me on this motion sensor stuff, the second they started listing off limitations like needing six feet of space for one person and having to stand up and your clothing or SKIN COLOUR confusing the software I would have just kiboshed the whole thing and sent it back to the drawing boards.

This is entertainment.  People might be willing to jump through hoops for something they need but this is just supposed to be fun.  As a result it is held to very high scrutiny because why should I have to go through much hassle just to have fun?  It's the easiest thing for consumers to just shrug off.  This just has too many hoops.  People will go through hell and back to cure their male pattern baldness.  They won't do it to play a videogame.

[Kytim89]

If I were buying one of the three consoles for motion controls, which would be the bst at the most reasonable price?

[Chozo Ghost]

This is entertainment.

Isn't watching Kinect crash and burn a form of entertainment as well? The only people who won't be entertained by Kinect turning Hindenburg are the small percentage of 360 owners who actually buy it, and of course Microsoft. But for everyone else, this is going to be a very entertaining disaster.

[NWR_insanolord]

I'm slowly gaining a little bit of interest in Kinect. Nowhere near enough to pay $150 for it, but I would no longer refuse one if someone offered it to me for free, as I've previously said.

[BeautifulShy]

If I were buying one of the three consoles for motion controls, which would be the bst at the most reasonable price?

Wii.

Kinect is not going to be a good product.
Sony Move has a closer chance of making a better impact than Kinect but I think that it won't be big enough as Wii.

[BlackNMild2k1]

If I were buying one of the three consoles for motion controls, which would be the bst at the most reasonable price?

Wii

Don't dignify such questions with actual answers. You'll only encourage more of it's kind.

[Shorty McNostril]

I wonder how many of these room requirements will be printed on the Kinect box.  Are Microsoft going to do the honorable thing and print all this so when a person picks it up and reads it they know if it can happen in their dwelling and consequently if it is a worthwhile purchase, or will they be a bunch of cheats and leave it all off, waiting for people to buy it first, then finding this all out the hard way.

[BeautifulShy]

I wonder how many of these room requirements will be printed on the Kinect box.  Are Microsoft going to do the honorable thing and print all this so when a person picks it up and reads it they know if it can happen in their dwelling and consequently if it is a worthwhile purchase, or will they be a bunch of cheats and leave it all off, waiting for people to buy it first, then finding this all out the hard way.

The latter.

If I were buying one of the three consoles for motion controls, which would be the bst at the most reasonable price?

Wii

Don't dignify such questions with actual answers. You'll only encourage more of it's kind.

Sorry I guess whenever I see someone ask a question I have to answer it. I'll try and be not helpful as possible in the future.

[TJ Spyke]

I think legally they will have to print the requirements on the box, or they will end up getting a class-action lawsuit.

[NWR_insanolord]

I'd imagine the requirements they've published are specifically designed to protect them from lawsuits. I'll bet it will work in less than these optimal conditions, but they padded them to be safe.

[Stogi]

Ubisoft announces a new Kinect game today as well.

Fighters Uncaged

looks like your gonna need more room than 8 feet from the TV and 4-5 feet across on either side.
Your gonna want to make sure there are no other people standing around and no lamps or breakable items anywhere near you.

This also looks really damn tiring.

Hahaha that game looks AWESOME

[Mop it up]

I think legally they will have to print the requirements on the box, or they will end up getting a class-action lawsuit.

They don't have to be on the box. Just look at the Wii; the stuff on the warning screen before each game is not featured anywhere on the box. It's in the instruction booklet, and the only warning on the box is to read the instructions before setting up and using the system. Kinect will be the same.

[Chozo Ghost]

If I were buying one of the three consoles for motion controls, which would be the bst at the most reasonable price?

Wii

Don't dignify such questions with actual answers. You'll only encourage more of it's kind.

Sorry I guess whenever I see someone ask a question I have to answer it. I'll try and be not helpful as possible in the future. : :

You aren't helping him. It was a dumb question which he already knew the answer to before he even asked. I don't know why he does that, but the best thing to do when you see posts like that is just shake your head and ignore them.

ETA: The only way his question wasn't dumb was if it was meant to be rhetorical (which I doubt it was), but even in that case it isn't supposed to be answered.

[Kytim89]

I meant for that question to be between the Move and Kinect motion systems.

[Shorty McNostril]

I think legally they will have to print the requirements on the box, or they will end up getting a class-action lawsuit.

Would they really be liable?  If someone did sue, they could simply say that all the details are available online and that they should have researched it first. 

[Stratos]

It wouldn't be lawsuit worthy, but I'm sure it will lead to a large number of returns.

[BlackNMild2k1]

But a return just means another opportunity to +1 your sales count without having to actually produce anymore hardware!!!

It a winning situation for MS in terms of PR sales numbers.

[Stratos]

Not if a bunch of articles and news clips spring up in the media (especially the mainstream media) with headlines like "Former hot holiday toy returned en mass due to faulty design".

[King of Twitch]

How would that be different than any other Microsoft product?

I'm sure they'll place the absolute minimum requirements on the box.

[Chozo Ghost]

Not if a bunch of articles and news clips spring up in the media (especially the mainstream media) with headlines like "Former hot holiday toy returned en mass due to faulty design".

Except this isn't ever going to become a "hot holiday toy". The hype might last all of 30 minutes, which would be about the time it takes for someone to purchase it, get it home, and then become appalled. Its coming out in early November, right? I predict word of mouth and strong public outcry against it is going to seal its fate before it even makes it to the holiday season, which technically doesn't start until after Thanksgiving. It will be a dead item well before then.

But I suppose on a positive note, Microsoft does have a lot of experience with handling recalls from their RROD 360s a few years back. This same experience is going to come in very handy when they recall Kinect. It also helps Microsoft that they are a very wealthy company and won't be bankrupted by its failure, although it will hurt them.

[TJ Spyke]

I might actually pick up Kinect when it's on clearance for $50. Navigating Xbox 360 menus by motion sounds interesting, and some of the games look good. Project Milo seemed like it could be cool, but there are rumors it has been canceled (officially it hasn't, just reports saying that development has been put on hold for now).

Microsoft has said they are commited though, planning to spend a few hundred million dollars on advertising.