Topic: Sakurai's List

[Bill Aurion]

Uh, Oguma and Nabarl ARE in the list...

(But still won't be chosen... =3)

[Bill Aurion]

Updated with LUCAS! =D

[NWR_pap64]

Hmm, and Lucas was one of the characters that fans asked for the most. This gives me a little more hope that Ouendan makes it to the final game, emphasis on A LITTLE.

[Smash_Brother]

I know Ouendan/EBA will be in there, but I still suspect they'll be an AT instead of playable.

However, if I could play as the EBA, I'd probably have a new main and it would be based on how much I love the characters instead of picking a bottom tier character for the sake of being good with a crap character.

[Bill Aurion]

That's really how you should play Smash Brothers in the first place... =)

[Smash_Brother]

I know, but I can't help it if I'm not overly fond of any of Nintendo's characters to the point where I'd say I "love" them.

I love EBA/Ouendan. The premise was just too awesome and the characters dancing to the beat was excellent (also, the way Ouendan would all hug in the end of the last level if they failed was absolutely classic). I like Bowser the most out of the current selection, but only because he's a more unique character in the sense that he's both a hero and a villain and neither of his roles have ever been black and white.

[Bill Aurion]

What kind of Nintendo fan are you to not love any of their characters but the Ouendan guys?

[Crimm]

I say now what I've said for a while: Sonic would be terrible.
Think about it: Every game Sonic has been in, in 3D, terrible.  It's like the Madden Curse.

Anyway, Sonic is about going fast.  If you go fast in Smash Bros?  Off the cliff.
His attacks are...him going non-stop in a ball of death.  He would go right off the side.  The other is a jump spin.

That's it.

Quite a lame character.

[Nick DiMola]

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Originally posted by: Crimm
I say now what I've said for a while: Sonic would be terrible.
Think about it: Every game Sonic has been in, in 3D, terrible.  It's like the Madden Curse.

Anyway, Sonic is about going fast.  If you go fast in Smash Bros?  Off the cliff.
His attacks are...him going non-stop in a ball of death.  He would go right off the side.  The other is a jump spin.

That's it.

Quite a lame character.

I actually agree with Crimm here, however if it was a Sonic + Tails combo, I could see the character being quite a bit more interesting.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
What kind of Nintendo fan are you to not love any of their characters but the Ouendan guys?

Most Nintendo games focus little on the characters but more on the gameplay. As such, the characters tend to behave more as cyphers than they do as "characters" so I find its difficult to really feel for them because I'm, in effect, feeling for myself.

Snake is a notable exception, since he has a great deal of dialogue and character development which I personally liked in Twin Snakes.

This is why I wanted Resetti to be playable so badly: I loved his character because he was just bursting with character.

As for EBA, I love them because the concept is simply too awesome not to love: three guys/girls show up out of nowhere to help motivate people to greatness when they need it most. There are so many inferred messages in the concept that I could write a thesis on it.  

[Crimm]

I don't think I mentioned it here, but I have said it before: EBA/Ouendan need to be assist trophies.

If you get them they cheer in the background, the music changes to something with a pulse, and your character's face controts into a determined glare.  You then become nearly invincible and do a ton of damage per hit you land.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Crimm
I say now what I've said for a while: Sonic would be terrible.
Think about it: Every game Sonic has been in, in 3D, terrible.  It's like the Madden Curse.

Anyway, Sonic is about going fast.  If you go fast in Smash Bros?  Off the cliff.
His attacks are...him going non-stop in a ball of death.  He would go right off the side.  The other is a jump spin.

That's it.

Quite a lame character.

Pff, his moveset will be fine.

If they can invent a moveset for Fox, Falcon and Mr. Friggin' Game and Watch, they'll be able to do so for Sonic.

Besides, both Yoshi and Jiggs had moves in Melee which showed us just how a spin dash attack would function.

I liked both Sonic Adventures, though the game was always at its best when speed was its focus and not platforming.

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Originally posted by: Crimm
I don't think I mentioned it here, but I have said it before: EBA/Ouendan need to be assist trophies.

If you get them they cheer in the background, the music changes to something with a pulse, and your character's face controts into a determined glare.  You then become nearly invincible and do a ton of damage per hit you land.

I expect something right along these lines, personally, but I'd still love to see them playable.

[NWR_pap64]

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Originally posted by: Crimm
I say now what I've said for a while: Sonic would be terrible.
Think about it: Every game Sonic has been in, in 3D, terrible.  It's like the Madden Curse.

Anyway, Sonic is about going fast.  If you go fast in Smash Bros?  Off the cliff.
His attacks are...him going non-stop in a ball of death.  He would go right off the side.  The other is a jump spin.

That's it.

Quite a lame character.

Actually, I think you are mistaken.

First of all, the character of Sonic would be handled by Sakurai and his team, NOT Sonic team. Sonic team could point out things about the character but they wouldn't be involved in the creation of the character. So to assume that Sonic will suck because of the company he's from is foolish.

Number 2, I expect Sonic to be a fast character, but not CRAZY fast. Like you said, a character like that wouldn't play well in Brawl. I expect Sonic to be just slightly faster than Sheik and Falcon. I only expect his extreme speed in his final smash.

If Sega slowed him down in the Olympics game then I expect Sakurai to do the same. Remember, if the game is slower then can't make crazy fast characters like before.

As for the Ouendan/EBA I still see Nintendo dropping the ball with them, but they are on Japan's most requested list and even got the same percentage as Lucas (who became a character) meaning that the hope of them being playable is small. It would be idiotic of them to get people's hopes up by saying they were one of the most requested characters only to screw them and turn them into just quick assist trophies.

[Bill Aurion]

But there's no way that every character on the list is going to be playable in the first place... =)

[Smash_Brother]

True.

Also, the LAST reason I'd like to see Ouendan/EBA is because they effin' deserve it.

INIS made an awesome franchise and despite three games being made now, the franchise is still largely ignored with pretty disappointing sales.

The inclusion of EBA/Ouendan as playable characters would basically force people to pay more attention to them, and something tells me that Nintendo is WELL aware of Lucas' presence aiding potential sales of Mother 3, both overseas and at home.

[NWR_pap64]

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
But there's no way that every character on the list is going to be playable in the first place... =)

If you are talking about all the lists then yeah, there's no way that all of these characters will make it to the game.

The poll list, however, is different because it narrows the list to a handful and focuses on what the fans want, so I expect it to take priority over Sakurai's personal list.

At the very least I see the high ranking characters being in the game.

[Smash_Brother]

I also expect characters of Sakurai's choice to show up.

[NWR_pap64]

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I also expect characters of Sakurai's choice to show up.

You know what would be funny? If Sakurai works hard on trying to make a character playable only to tell him that they can't do anything with the character and turn him or her into an assist trophy... XD

Sakurai: Man, I really wanted that character in the game!

Us: Not so fond of it now, huh?

[Arbok]

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Originally posted by: pap64
You know what would be funny? If Sakurai works hard on trying to make a character playable only to tell him that they can't do anything with the character and turn him or her into an assist trophy... XD

Sakurai: Man, I really wanted that character in the game!

Us: Not so fond of it now, huh?

Assist trophies: making fanboys cry since 2007 with the realization that not every character can (or should) be playable...

[Arbok]

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Percentage...(I'd expect looooots of votes were tallied for a Smash Brothers poll...)

I feel so lied to...

[Bill Aurion]

Hahaha, I was wondering if anyone would actually find that post...Was going to post about it here, but eh, so lazy...

[Crimm]

Sonic should only be in a game if he is "super fast."  He's the "fastest thing alive," damnit!  Every time he is featured as anything less it winds up terrible.

[Crimm]

Cheating on us with other forums?

[NWR_pap64]

BUMP!

Its time for Bill to update the thread. Jill from Drill Dozer, the Advance Wars infantry men and the Metroid have been confirmed to be assist trophies.

[Bill Aurion]

Updated with Jill and Advance Wars Assist Trophies (and Little Mac now)... =)