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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #600 on: June 24, 2006, 09:21:15 PM »
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« Reply #601 on: June 24, 2006, 10:40:59 PM »
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« Reply #602 on: June 25, 2006, 04:59:03 AM »
Ok I'm on the last dungeon of A Link to the Past and never beat it because I found it too annoying.   Sort of like I never beat the Adventure of Link (That was the one without the plural right?).  I got to Death Mountian, die or I get through and die.  Have to go back through all of it because the game is slightly broken.  It says in the original Nintendo manual, at least my version, clear as day that you are suppose to start from the last castle you beat when you start a save game.  I always ended up starting at the original starting point and having to backtrack through everything to get where I was at.  It was royally annoying so I didn't beat that one either.  Actually now that I'm thinking about it.  I didn't beat Wind Waker either because of the stupid sea travel.  Love everything about the game except for anything to do with traveling on water.  I sat down after not beating the game and went "I'm going to beat it this time"  I made it through a good chunk and then it goes "Now go wonder the ocean and find the Triforce peices"  No thank you.

I like games but I don't seem to have any drive to finish them.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #603 on: June 25, 2006, 06:37:17 AM »
It says in the original Nintendo manual, at least my version, clear as day that you are suppose to start from the last castle you beat when you start a save game.

The GBA version manual corrects this: You restart from the beginning unless you are at the last temple.

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« Reply #604 on: June 25, 2006, 07:02:19 AM »
I was hoping the GBA version would had corrected the issue and let me start at the last castle I beat.  Darn.
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« Reply #605 on: June 25, 2006, 07:37:36 AM »
The restart situation is one of the biggest reasons I think many old games suck. AoL would have been much more fun had it been made with today's advances in gameplay (better restarting, better combat, less monotony in random encounters, less "find the hidden tile", etc). That's why I'm hoping for a "remake" in the vein of Zero Mission. ZM did a good job of making a pretty sucky game fun.

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #606 on: June 25, 2006, 08:36:09 AM »
Yeah, like Wind Waker, I really actual enjoyed all the other expects of the game, ok with Wind Waker it was the stupid sea.  A few fixes and I buy a remake.  Full price.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #607 on: June 25, 2006, 02:05:41 PM »
Nintendo should join up with a bunch of companies and make the ultimate smash bros. game.  

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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #608 on: June 25, 2006, 04:17:01 PM »
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Technically, I was referancing my memory of the original Zelda Title Screen which the author himself says referencing that is ok.  (Though he should probably say you get a warning.)

So I do not believe I am a noob that should get gannon-banned for remembering a spell which was Nintendo's original mistake.

So I will settle for a Gannon-Warning instead.  

But thank you for playing.

I do like how you went through all that time to put up the link for a joke...yet nobody has commented on my idea.



it was only a joke lol. i've had that site bookmarked for awhile because i have a friend who breaks every offense listed there whenever we talk about zelda. i "gannon-banned" him a few minutes before i read your post so it was in my head.

and your idea was great by the way. i really feel that the fire bats should be the characters special move, the one gained by grabbing the Smash (logo) item. i can just picture the screen fad to black, as well as ganon (only showing his eyes) and hundreds of firey bats rushing towards every oponent.

and the boomerang-tridet move would be a cool teleportation move. it should have to be on the slow side though as ganon has to throw it in a direction then warp to it. this would add to the difficulty of playing as this altered form. it could very well be an up+B move that is direction (like the "fire fox" move).
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« Reply #609 on: June 25, 2006, 04:21:06 PM »
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Ok I'm on the last dungeon of A Link to the Past and never beat it because I found it too annoying.   Sort of like I never beat the Adventure of Link (That was the one without the plural right?).  I got to Death Mountian, die or I get through and die.  Have to go back through all of it because the game is slightly broken.  It says in the original Nintendo manual, at least my version, clear as day that you are suppose to start from the last castle you beat when you start a save game.  I always ended up starting at the original starting point and having to backtrack through everything to get where I was at.  It was royally annoying so I didn't beat that one either.  Actually now that I'm thinking about it.  I didn't beat Wind Waker either because of the stupid sea travel.  Love everything about the game except for anything to do with traveling on water.  I sat down after not beating the game and went "I'm going to beat it this time"  I made it through a good chunk and then it goes "Now go wonder the ocean and find the Triforce peices"  No thank you.

I like games but I don't seem to have any drive to finish them.


its ok dude, i was on the same boat ;-)

i got ALttP back when i was in the 6th grade i believe but i didnt beat it for another few years becuase of this one specific room in turtle rock dungeon. its on early one, with the four torches that need to be lit while riding the platform. for some reason back then i just couldnt figure out the best path to ignite the torches and reach the door before the time limit, so i gave up. then later (years later) when i tried again, and succeeded, it was a breeze.

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« Reply #610 on: June 26, 2006, 01:37:36 AM »
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For me I don't want alot of support characters are becoming main characters in the game.  I would like strongly recognizable heros and then a villian for each universe.  Zelda/Gannondorf (or better Gannon) Mario/Bowser Star Fox/(Star Wolf)

I don't want every single character from Metroid in there.  I don't want tons of characters that really just don't belong.

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Pfft. I think it's a safe assumption that "Ganon" is a transliteration from Hylian, in which case, both "Ganon" and "Gannon" are probably correct.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #611 on: June 26, 2006, 07:04:51 AM »
So Ganon must now be refered as "The One Who's Name Cannot Be Typed"  for I have yet to find a Hylian font. (Now that I've said that I'm sure someone will link one.)
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« Reply #612 on: June 27, 2006, 12:01:32 PM »
I actually thought of something else I don't want to see have to Smash Brothers.  It isn't bad enough to get me to stop buying the game, but I believe it will hurt the experience...and has a potential of happening.

Too many characters that are TOO similar.

Melee contained clones which were rather uneventful characters to unlock.

However, something else more horrible could happen.  Original characters that all play so similar in structure that it doesn't really matter who you pick.

Everyone is wanting every single Nintendo character they can think of in the game...but I believe a character should only be included if it can truly add something to the game.  

Some characters need to be unique and exciting boss battles (Ridley)

Other characters need to be axed because they would be too similar to exciting characters.  (Star Worf could be an example.)

While still some very unlikely characters need to be added because of very unique gameplay mechanics.  

Olimar is a great example.

And yet, some characters I am worried about their inclusion until Nintendo proves they will play differently than other characters...Pit, MetaKnight examples.

Don't get me wrong. I love the inclusion of the above mentioned characters...I just hope that the design team works hard to make them unique and play differently than all the other characters.


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« Reply #613 on: June 27, 2006, 12:06:39 PM »
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For me I don't want alot of support characters are becoming main characters in the game.  I would like strongly recognizable heros and then a villian for each universe.  Zelda/Gannondorf (or better Gannon) Mario/Bowser Star Fox/(Star Wolf)

I don't want every single character from Metroid in there.  I don't want tons of characters that really just don't belong.

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Pfft. I think it's a safe assumption that "Ganon" is a transliteration from Hylian, in which case, both "Ganon" and "Gannon" are probably correct.




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« Reply #614 on: June 27, 2006, 12:26:09 PM »
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« Reply #615 on: June 27, 2006, 12:34:10 PM »
Easycure:

Well there is two different ways to do the Trident teleportation move.  One is more complicated, but much cooler.  The other is easier, but could still allow interesting strategy.

1) Ganon controls the Trident:  Once thrown the player continues to hold down the special button and directs the Trident where to go.  As this is going on Ganon is vunerable to take damage, but it doesn not knock him around, or ends the trident attack.  Once the button is let go, Ganon will teleport right in front of the Trident and catches it.

2) Ganon has a predetermined throw.  I picture something between the Link Boomerang, with a more circular Arc.  How far you push the control stick forward when you trigger the attack deterimines the arc and distance.  If you let go of the special button then you just throw your trident.  If you hold it, after a short charge (1-2 seconds) you can let go and transport over.  This makes the attack able to have a bluff to it...and such.

I just thought of two other means of doing the move.

3) It doesn't act like a boomerang and just goes straight forward.  Press B, starts the attack and then before throwing the trident point a direction to send it flying.  Press B again to transport and catch it.

4)The easiest means of doing it.  Throw the Trident, and if it hits somebody, it stuns them and Ganon is transported to the Trident to continue with a second attack.  

Basically all these moves are designed to be quicker than his normal movement.  It is a means to compensate for his slowness and allow him to get away from danger or more likely pursue those fleeing their demise

I understood it was a joke by the way...I just wanted to defend my case.  I don't want to have a gannon ban against me...if I don't have to.

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« Reply #616 on: June 27, 2006, 03:56:35 PM »
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I actually thought of something else I don't want to see have to Smash Brothers.  It isn't bad enough to get me to stop buying the game, but I believe it will hurt the experience...and has a potential of happening.

Too many characters that are TOO similar.

Melee contained clones which were rather uneventful characters to unlock.

However, something else more horrible could happen.  Original characters that all play so similar in structure that it doesn't really matter who you pick.

Everyone is wanting every single Nintendo character they can think of in the game...but I believe a character should only be included if it can truly add something to the game.  

Some characters need to be unique and exciting boss battles (Ridley)

Other characters need to be axed because they would be too similar to exciting characters.  (Star Worf could be an example.)

While still some very unlikely characters need to be added because of very unique gameplay mechanics.  

Olimar is a great example.

And yet, some characters I am worried about their inclusion until Nintendo proves they will play differently than other characters...Pit, MetaKnight examples.

Don't get me wrong. I love the inclusion of the above mentioned characters...I just hope that the design team works hard to make them unique and play differently than all the other characters.


I dont think we'll have to worry to much since Brawl will have a longer development time then Melee had.  As we've seen with the games Sakurai's made, he's very talented and with a long development time he and his team should be able to make most of the charactors unique.  Plus the fact Sakurai has said they'll be reworking the existing charactors from Melee when they appear in Brawl, I think it's safe to say he's working very hard on this issue.  
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« Reply #617 on: June 27, 2006, 04:29:57 PM »
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So Ganon must now be refered as "The One Who's Name Cannot Be Typed"  for I have yet to find a Hylian font. (Now that I've said that I'm sure someone will link one.)


or we should all just come up with a nameless symbol that represents ganon and call him "the villian formely known as Ganon".

it should consist of a trident, an eye, and a bat or so. i'll start working on Paint immidiately!

and to Spak Spang: even if i were the Gannon-Banned authority, i would not Gannon-Ban you; you're ideas are just too good.  
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« Reply #618 on: June 27, 2006, 05:03:39 PM »
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So Ganon must now be refered as "The One Who's Name Cannot Be Typed"  for I have yet to find a Hylian font. (Now that I've said that I'm sure someone will link one.)


or we should all just come up with a nameless symbol that represents ganon and call him "the villian formely known as Ganon".

it should consist of a trident, an eye, and a bat or so. i'll start working on Paint immidiately!

and to Spak Spang: even if i were the Gannon-Banned authority, i would not Gannon-Ban you; you're ideas are just too good.


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« Reply #619 on: June 27, 2006, 05:13:08 PM »
I ran into this while trying to make the symbol of ganon.


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« Reply #620 on: June 27, 2006, 07:15:38 PM »
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« Reply #621 on: June 27, 2006, 07:19:48 PM »
In the new issue of Nintendo Power, in the letters section, called Pulse, they have a bunch of letters about who should be in the game. Interestingly, at the end NP makes a joke about John Madden being a character in the game. NP must come to our boards a lot.
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« Reply #622 on: June 27, 2006, 07:52:26 PM »


This sort of came about when I was trying to make the symbol for the Character Formerly Known As Ganon (or is "He Who Cannot Be Typed"?)
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« Reply #623 on: June 27, 2006, 09:43:37 PM »
I want Bill Cosby in SSBB.

He knows the kids today play the pokeyman.

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« Reply #624 on: June 28, 2006, 04:54:04 AM »
I find Nintendo Power interesting.  Obviously the writers are just average Nintendo fans whom landed a great job working for Nintendo because of their writing abilities.

People expect them to have inside knowledge and resources because it is technically an official Nintendo produced Magazine.  However, they either don't and are run completely independently or Nintendo forces them to keep their mouths shut about what they see.

But so often, they just sound like us.  Their list of characters desired for the game is basically a fanboys wet dream.  

By the way, I still want John Madden commentary.  I think it would be a boost like no other.  3-4 hours of record Maddenisms about Smash Brothers would be heaven.