Author Topic: Xbox 360 = awesome system (Read 35204 times)

BranDonk Kong · « **on:** January 24, 2006, 07:28:44 AM »

I bought a few (and sold) Xbox 360s the other day, but kept one for myself. I kept the Premium, there really is no reason to buy the Core, unless you don't have HDTV, don't want to play XBox games, and don't care about (awesome) Xbox Live downloadable content. Anyway, the system is actually pretty badass. PGR3 is the most realistic looking game I've ever seen (plays nicely too). Being able to download game demos (and free sigle player XBox Live Arcade games) is a HUGE benefit of having the Premium system. Having such small disk space is going to 86 that idea for the Revolution. Anyway, if you've been thinking about getting one, you might as well get it, Revolution and PS3 won't be out for at least another 6 months, and there's basically nothing truly great coming out on the Gamecube besides Twilight Princess.

P.S. I hate Microsoft, so this wasn't easy for me to admit.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1 on:** January 24, 2006, 07:59:00 AM »

Having such small disk space is going to 86 that idea for the Revolution.

Someone forgot about the Virtual Console, if that was even possible...And I don't see how disc space has anything to do with game demos in the first place...

ShyGuy · « **Reply #2 on:** January 24, 2006, 08:16:00 AM »

I don't have an HDTV
I don't want to play XBox games
I don't know if I care about Xbox live downloadable content.

The only 360 game I'm really interested in so far is Alan Wake

Can I just play my DS for the next 6 months?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2006, 08:23:20 AM »

there really is no reason to buy the Core, unless you don't have HDTV

Why would not having a HDTV make the Core version more desirable? (And what's with all the evil AI jokes embedded into the XC?)

Seriously, I see maybe 1.5 games I'd play on the system (I suppose DoA would be tolerable while Kameolectathon would piss me off after less than 50% through the game)*. Absolutely not worth it. The prices for the games are f###ing insane (68€?!?) and the system is expensive as hell. I'm not going to be an early adopter again, not after being terribly burned with the DS and that had a better launch lineup than the XC.

*=I'd buy Quake 4 once it drops into the bargain bin but since I only buy that for the mod support the XC version would be completely useless for me.

JonLeung · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2006, 08:40:33 AM »

I hope I don't offend anyone, but I've always been a Nintendo fan, so I'm definitely skewed in that direction. I don't know if that makes me a fanboy or not, but I think I can reasonably justify never considering an Xbox - it seems like all the best games also come out for the PC. On my computer, I've played Halo, Doom 3, SW: KOTOR, SW: Battlefront, MGS2: Substance, Silent Hill 2: Director's Cut, my brother has ES III: Morrowind...there are quite a few others, I'm sure, that I could get for the PC if I really wanted to. Like, Fable's kind of on my radar.

Learn what EXCLUSIVES are, Microsoft. Geez... I know not everyone has a decent PC, but I do, and because of that, an Xbox seems mostly redundant.

I might be interested in the Tecmo games, like Ninja Gaiden (since I liked the original NES games), or DoA:XBV (but that wouldn't be for "gameplay" reasons, I'll admit that right now). And perhaps a couple other real exclusives, but a handful of games isn't enough for me to consider it.

It sounds like the Xbox 360 library is going to be the same. There are some Rare-developed games like Perfect Dark Zero and Kameo that we all thought were going to be for the GameCube...if they remain true Xbox 360 exclusives, and even if I could say I really wanted to play them, a couple games is still not enough.

However, there is that Xbox 360 controller for the PC...is that any good? I've been using an N64 controller on my computer for YEARS. I don't know if I'd replace it soon, but unlike the original Xbox controller, would you say the X360 controller is worth checking out? (That seems like it means giving an Xbox 360 experience to those who prefer those same games on the PC like I do, which I'm thinking emphasizes the redundancy, IMO...)

KDR_11k · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2006, 09:01:42 AM »

What other PC controller has the analog stick in the primary position?

Requiem · « **Reply #6 on:** January 24, 2006, 10:00:23 AM »

I much as the Xbox 360 seems cool or feels next gen, I can't bring myself to buy the damn thing. The DS however is the closest a product can come with out me forking over the cash. I just want a different color...A DIFFERENT COLOR!

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #7 on:** January 24, 2006, 10:48:41 AM »

The Core system doesn't include HD AV cables...the Premium does. You can buy them seperately (MS branded for $30 or MadCatz for $20...or Monster for like $5 million). With the 360's hard drive you can download game demos, as in a whole bunch of them, the smallest one I've seen is 438MB, that would use up almost the entire Revolution flash memory. Of course the Revolution won't use HD, so videos and games won't require as much space, so maybe we'll be able to download a couple demos, if they allow us. I'm still planning on getting a Revolution, and the games that truly are suited for it...just in the mean time I needed something new and exciting. I'm not trying to sell any Xbox 360s here, and don't expect much support...this is a Nintendo-based BASED, not BIASED) website after all.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #8 on:** January 24, 2006, 10:28:21 PM »

I mean, isn't the Core just total garbage MS put out to be able to say "The XBox 360 costs only 300$!"?

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #9 on:** January 25, 2006, 08:05:44 PM »

Most likely, yes.

clevelandst124 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2006, 01:31:51 AM »

It would still be possible for the revolution. I'm not a big fan of getting "severly incomplete games"(demos), but the revolution is supposed to allow you to be able to hook up an external harddrive through the usb port on the revolution and that the usb port would accept jump drives. Ultimately the 500 mb flash drive is for retro games. Should be able to fit the entire nes and snes collections on the drive, don't know about the N64 collection but it should serve it's purpose.

Dasmos · « **Reply #11 on:** January 28, 2006, 02:15:24 AM »

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Originally posted by: Brandogg
The Core system doesn't include HD AV cables...the Premium does. You can buy them seperately (MS branded for $30 or MadCatz for $20...or Monster for like $5 million). With the 360's hard drive you can download game demos, as in a whole bunch of them, the smallest one I've seen is 438MB, that would use up almost the entire Revolution flash memory. Of course the Revolution won't use HD, so videos and games won't require as much space, so maybe we'll be able to download a couple demos, if they allow us. I'm still planning on getting a Revolution, and the games that truly are suited for it...just in the mean time I needed something new and exciting. I'm not trying to sell any Xbox 360s here, and don't expect much support...this is a Nintendo-based BASED, not BIASED) website after all.

So the cables cost almost as much as the system itself?

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #12 on:** January 28, 2006, 06:04:37 AM »

The system is pretty expensive, but when you consider what's in the box, it's actually a value...sort of. The 360 is more powerful than the most powerful PC you could buy today, or for the next couple of years most likely. If it had full PC funcionality, then it would be simply incredible.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #13 on:** January 28, 2006, 08:02:43 AM »

I don't see any "more powerful". Maybe on paper but the games really don't look like anything a PC couldn't do (and by the time devs can use the full power of the XC there will be better PCs available).

Pale · « **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2006, 08:17:22 AM »

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Originally posted by: Brandogg
The 360 is more powerful than the most powerful PC you could buy today, or for the next couple of years most likely.

Man.. false. Maybe thats what MS wants you to think but it couldn't be any more wrong. I wish someone could actually benchmark the 360 to prove something to people.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2006, 10:27:10 AM »

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Originally posted by: Brandogg
The system is pretty expensive, but when you consider what's in the box, it's actually a value...sort of. The 360 is more powerful than the most powerful PC you could buy today, or for the next couple of years most likely. If it had full PC funcionality, then it would be simply incredible.

Hmmm... now thats interesting

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2006, 10:33:05 AM »

Best blonde joke ever.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2006, 04:36:34 PM »

Ok if I come here and admit this, but I have also seriously considered an Xbox 360, partly because I dont want to wait for Rev and GC isnt doing anything for a long time. Also Ds, well that wont satirfy me at all, I dont play handheld games often and when i do I usualy play for short periods of time anyways.

What I like about 360 is that it looks pretty cool and the extra features live Xbox Live Arcade and theres osme realy great looking games coming out for it that I might enjoy. I am looking forward to Elder Scrolls Oblivion and of Coruse Halo 3, plus that Sonic game and Quake 4 and a few other games. I might get Quake and Doom and Elder Scrolls for my PC if my video card can handle them but otherwise Ill just go for the 360. I hated original xbox but after awhile my sister got one and to be honest it has some great games that I actualy like to play, sure MOST are available on PC but since i am not a big PC gamer and cuz my video card isnt top notch I like to be able to get those games on a console.

But I am still getting a REV on launch day but I have seriously considered a 360. Also I wioudl get premium package cuz we would most likely trad ein our current xbox to help us eat some of the cost.

TrueNerd · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2006, 08:27:56 PM »

With games like Gears of War and Dead Rising not coming out til next fall, I see very little reason to purchase a 360 at this point. And when does Ninety Nine Nights come out?

My DS (and Okami!) will more then hold me over til Twilight Princess which will hold me over til the Revolution. Hopefully Nintendo doesn't release TP and the Rev. on the same day, or even a week apart.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #19 on:** January 29, 2006, 07:10:17 AM »

Show me one PC game that looks better than the same game on Xbox 360, and uses video card technology that you can go buy right now. Also remember the games on 360 are running in 1920x1080 resolution. And if anyone can point me to where I can buy a PC with a 3 3.2Ghz core processor right now, then I'll eat my words.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #20 on:** January 29, 2006, 08:22:26 AM »

Tell me where you can buy a console with a processor equivalent of a triple core 3.2 GHz PC CPU. The XC uses simplified cores that are meant for embedded devices and omit many features PC CPUs offer (like branch prediction and out of order execution). A PC with three 3.2GHz cores (even Intel ones) will outperform the XC by a huge margin.

Games can run on 1600x1200(x80Hz) just fine (that's roughly the same as 1920x1080), I'm not sure how common higher resolution screens are but then again higher resolution HDTVs aren't any more common. Oh and don't forget that the XC can only handle 1080 if it's interlaced.

As for the games that look better on the PC, there's a very high detail version of King Kong available for the PC that outdoes the XC version. I doubt you'll see any significant differences in most games since they're developed for the XC's specs (which are effectively lower since you can offer the option to reduce detail on the PC and can go for much higher specs). PCs do have significantly more RAM, though.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #21 on:** January 29, 2006, 09:20:03 AM »

yeah true but I am poor and cant afford gaming PC also I prefer console games. I am running old video card anyways but it gets the job done and I can play most regular xbox games just fine on it.

I am definately wanting to play Oblivion and I doubt my vid card can handle it so I might get a 360 for that plus I also like GUN for GC and might try 360 version if its any better. And of course theres Kameo looks good anad I will definately want one once Halo 3 get releaased assuing its as good as first 2. Also JUST LIKE Rev I am interested in the Xbox Live arcade DL feature so I can get old games on it that wont be available for REV. BUT dont have enough moneyh right now to buy any new systems so I will wait till first price drop or until rev anyways. I will keep my eye on the 360 and see if any more must have game socmeo ut becaus eI wont miss out on a single game next gen liek Id id this gen, if tehres games to be playe don otehr consoles Ill be damned if I pass them up for stupid fanboyism this next gen, well PS exlcuded because NOTHING will convince me to by a Playstation ANYTHING.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #22 on:** January 29, 2006, 07:55:54 PM »

must have game socmeo ut becaus eI wont miss out on a single game next gen liek Id id this gen, if tehres games to be playe don otehr consoles

Try reading what you write for once.

bustin98 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 30, 2006, 05:43:28 AM »

I'll bet the bottom dollar that building a system with Intel's Extreme Dual Core 3.2, 4GB of RAM, and NVidia's SLI PCI - E x 16 will run much more smoothly than the Xbox 360. Heck, get a mobo that supports two processors and have two Dual Cores. Cost comes into play, not that you can buy a PC for the cost of a 360 anyway (at least not a very decent one).

But, whats power? Just the CPU alone? You can have a screaming CPU but if there's a bottleneck, the system is only as good as that slowest piece. All the parts combined create the power.

Its rather presumpuous to believe the PC world will not continue to show increases in performance even in the next 6 months. Won't be long before we start seeing carbon nano tubes in processors. And as 64Bit grows, more options will be made available, making it a viable solution for extremely quick computing.

Microsoft made a decent gaming machine. But as a computer, it is lacking and doesn't stand up to the future. Not a knock against MS or the 360, just the way of life.

Pale · « **Reply #24 on:** January 30, 2006, 06:15:27 AM »

Yeah I mean, arguing that you can build a comparable pc for 400 dollars isn't what we are doing. You are right in saying that the 360 is awesome specs for the money. But saying that it is better than any PC currently buildable is just silly.

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Author Topic: Xbox 360 = awesome system (Read 35204 times)