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Offline Avinash_Tyagi

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More Sony Lies
« on: October 21, 2005, 11:21:49 AM »
Apparently Sony has been trying to massage the PSP numbers by stating 10 million have been shipped

but of course certain sites (like gamespot) have decided shipped and sold mean the same thing and have taken to saying Sony has sold 10 million PSP's

The truth howerver is much much less:

From Gamasutra:
According to recent statements from Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, the PSP has sold "over a million units throughout the PAL territories", while chart analyst Media Create gives a figure of 1,910,205 units sold in Japan to date. As ever, figures for North America remain the most obscure, although recent estimates from The NPD Group put the figure at over 2 million units

From Kikizo:
Official numbers are difficult to come by, but a press release from Sony this week, to announce the launch of the PSP Giga Pack, says that just over a million PSPs have been sold in Europe since the handheld's launch on 1 September. Another report says that actual sales in North America are standing at around 2.5 million.

Does this mean that there are millions of PSPs sitting in stock rooms and on store shelves throughout the world? It seems so.

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RE: More Sony Lies
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2005, 11:31:22 AM »
I wisht he damn NPD wouldn't suck so much.

What are the DS's comparable #s?

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2005, 11:38:03 AM »
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RE: More Sony Lies
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2005, 12:24:26 PM »
Sony seems to always use the shipped numbers.  This is nothing new.

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2005, 12:36:02 PM »
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Sony seems to always use the shipped numbers. This is nothing new


Maybe not new, but it is rather underhanded, makes it seem like Sony is doing better than they are, in this case much better.

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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2005, 12:50:10 PM »
at least they aren't using 'manufactured' numbers

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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2005, 03:20:18 PM »
"Does this mean that there are millions of PSPs sitting in stock rooms and on store shelves throughout the world? It seems so. "

So that why the psp get more store shelve space than the Nintendo DS. Still is no resone to cut the cube shelve space (come on $2.6/gl)
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2005, 08:11:59 PM »
There are seven million PSPs unsold in storage?  I think they can hault production now.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2005, 08:42:12 PM »
I think the number would be more like 3.5-4 million unsold.

What are the DS's numbers in Europe, Japan and NA?

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RE: More Sony Lies
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2005, 08:49:17 PM »
hahaha Stevey is going through with his burn-the-stores-down plan.  Isn't the DS worldwide sales around 6 mill or so?  

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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2005, 10:58:33 PM »
On one hand Sony doesn't get any numbers outside of shipped, on the other hand 6 and 10 million is a rather large difference.

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2005, 11:21:33 PM »
nintendo should start offering shipped numbers; play Sony's dirty game

only thing is, nintendo has probably sold most of the shipped systems.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2005, 08:47:21 AM »
No, Nintendo should just be as honest and as good as they have always been.

Otherwise, when the big Videogame God comes down here, they will be thrown out of the window just like Sony is about to be!

Ahhh, I just love justice when it hits where it hurts the most!

Nintendo is indeed the King of videogaming, about to reassume it´s former position of No.1!

I would say that it will be Nintendo and Microsoft who will dominate the future of videogaming. Heck, Microsoft even gives Nintendo a helping hand with portable console developement.
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2005, 09:42:54 AM »
If there was any higher being enforcing justice, Microsoft would be nothing but a memory now.

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2005, 10:13:36 AM »
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If there was any higher being enforcing justice, Microsoft would be nothing but a memory now.

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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2005, 10:40:02 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2005, 03:31:58 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2005, 10:36:22 PM »
The Sony implementation would have some unwieldy handles and a few analog sticks glued to it.

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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2005, 12:06:20 AM »
Sony would be the one to put the stick on it and then get all the credit.

Nintendo should skip the BS and just put traditional functions on these remotes now.  There would be no more need for a nunchuck or shell.  And in five years Sony would not be able to slap an analog stick on a remote and say they have 1uped Nintendo.
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2005, 05:36:54 AM »
Haven't we been through this?  Putting regular funtions on the remote would not only ruin what Nintendo's aiming to do, but it would suck too.
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2005, 07:42:36 AM »
I agree completely. Nintendo should just stick to their plan, and let the others go their own way.

However, I very much hope that Reggie has a plan ready, if they try to get some sleazy lawyers to circumvent their copyright on the new controller interface. I really really hope that Nintendo has learned something about past "copyrights" after seeing all of their previous inventions being ruthlessly copied by the others. I really don´t know much about copyright legislation, but if Nintendo has done all in their legal power to make it near impossible for the competition to steal from them again I am indeed very happy for them. They were making a big issue about not showing the new controller for a long time for fear of the copy cats!

Aside from that, I think that more and more people will look over to Nintendo´s DS because Sony´s plan of putting all kinds of non-gaming related media on the PSP will largely fail! Various websites may claim that Sony is selling the PSP in huge numbers, but unable to prove it. While Nintendo can prove they are actually doing so! If anyone is near the 10 million mark here it is Nintendo - NOT Sony!

I think people see the PSP as a nice little handheld with beautifull exterior and everything, but they don´t see as much fun in it´s games as they see in the games over on the DS! I really think that people everywhere see that difference! So Nintendo has hit the jackpot because they know much better what makes people who play games happier!

One of my friends wanting to buy a new handheld for his daughter, just dumped the PSP in favour of DS! He complained to me for weeks on end that there was no games coming out for it worth playing really for longer than a week or so (just like I had already told him there wouldn´t). Which really didn´t warrant shelling out 400 bucks for something which won´t last! He will buy a Pink or Blue DS with Nintendogs tommorow for her! It is twice the fun (if not more) and two times cheaper!

With him being a die-hard Sony fan for years, it comes as a total surprise to me that he made that choice. I never thought he would listen! But I assume he heard enough about the bad sales numbers for the PSP, and the dismal launch line-up, lack of new games, to be convinced that what I said was right! So Sony can brag about their so-called success with the PSP. I just think they are empty (gaming-) barrels making a lot of noise!  
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2005, 09:03:34 AM »
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
On one hand Sony doesn't get any numbers outside of shipped, on the other hand 6 and 10 million is a rather large difference.
How does Nintendo get sold numbers and Sony doesn't?
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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2005, 09:50:43 AM »
Sony can, it's just that the shipped number is just so much bigger that they can't resist using it instead...
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2005, 09:53:56 AM »
Gamebasher, you always say "people will see the difference", "people will go where the games are", "developers will work with the one that's easiest to work with", in harsh contrast to reality. Reality says people buy what TV makes them believe is cool and developers go with what their publishers say (which is usually "That PS2 thing may be hard to develop for but think of all the copies we could sell!").  

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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2005, 08:12:49 PM »
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Haven't we been through this?  Putting regular funtions on the remote would not only ruin what Nintendo's aiming to do, but it would suck too.


I'd rather have an analog stick/trackball button combo than a dpad/a button combo on the revolution remote.  Think about how you are going to control the camera in Zelda when you are using the remote to swing the sword.  Will we have to endure having to hit a button to switch the functionality of the 3d motion control between camera control and weapon control?  

Or will they use the wavebird shell for Zelda?
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