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DS Support from Rare Confirmed!

by Karl Castaneda - July 7, 2005, 11:06 am PDT
Total comments: 29 Source: Rare

According to their "Join Us" section, they're looking to start up DS development.

After Rare was bought by Microsoft in 2002, many thought it was the end of their relationship with Nintendo. Fortunately, Rare still releases portable titles, such as Banjo Pilot and It's Mr. Pants. Up until this point, though, no one was completely sure if Rare would support Nintendo's newest handheld, the DS.

Well, now we know. Recently, Rareware.com updated their "Join Us" section with two want ads:

GAMES PROGRAMMERS (NINTENDO DS)

Must be motivated, enthusiastic and skilled in C/C++ to join our dedicated handheld team, recently nominated for a Develop Industry Excellence Award. 3D skills also an advantage in creating high-profile titles for this unique system.

EXPERIENCED 3D ARTISTS (NINTENDO DS)

Good understanding of 3D packages (preferably Maya), strong modelling and texturing abilities, imagination and motivation are all required from anyone hoping to join our Develop award-nominated team in creating key DS titles.

Of course, the question still remains: will the DS serve as a port machine for Rare's earlier classics or will they use the platform for all-new games? Only time will tell.

And thanks to BlackNMild2k1 for giving us the heads-up on this one!

Talkback

KDR_11kJuly 07, 2005

If you were qualified for this you'd probably be looking for this at Gamasutra instead face-icon-small-tongue.gif.

miedoJuly 07, 2005

I can't wait for Grabbed by the Ghoulies DS!

Sir_StabbalotJuly 07, 2005

Well, we'll see how they did five years from now.

thepogaJuly 07, 2005

At the very least, I'll take Perfect Dark or Goldeneye with a few more levels, and online multiplayer. More FPS's for the DS would hopefully show developers who can make those games that they would work perfectly on the DS. How is there only two FPS's on a system that's almost perfect for them? And the only one released now sucks!

31 FlavasJuly 07, 2005

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Originally posted by: miedo
I can't wait for Grabbed by the Ghoulies DS!
Yea, while some Rare bashers may comeback and woo hoo this news.... My expectations are pretty low.

cubistJuly 07, 2005

I'll take thepoga's Goldeneye and Perfect Dark On-line idea and raise it with a Conker BFD, Jet Force Gemini, and the Banjo Series. They can also port Donkey Kong 64 and maybe do it right this time.

Peace Out!

DjunknownJuly 07, 2005

I hate to shoot people back to earth, but its better to this now than later.

EA owns the James Bond franchise, so unless EA/Rare/Nintendo work something out, its doubtful. See also the recently released Rogue Agent for the DS (Its not fit to even call this a Goldeneye title...) for further proof.

Perfect Dark is shaping up to be the 360's flagship title along with Gears of war. PD on both Nintendo and Microsoft's systems? C'mon....

Porting the past titles may sound nice, but it feels lazy. The DS shouldn't be a dumping ground of ports; the GBA has that base well covered. They've got some interesting tools and features to play with.


EDIT: deleted nonsensical paragraph.



Bill AurionJuly 07, 2005

I'll take a Banjo-Kazooie port...Mainly because I don't trust them with making a new one... face-icon-small-frown.gif

sikboy1029July 07, 2005

come on bad fur day port with beach and heist online

BlackNMild2k1July 07, 2005

Woo Hoo, I got mentioned on a front page news story!!! yay for me!!

I mentioned this in the other thread, but I will repeat it here too.
It was rumored that Rare was playing around with a DS dev kit a while ago, and that they also had a few playable levels up & running from PD. I heard that this may have also been seen/heard at E3 this year.

ssj4_androidJuly 07, 2005

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw PD0 on the DS. Remember the rumors about the DS and PSP hooking up to the Xbox 360 to play Microsoft games online or some other connectivety thing?

joeposhJuly 07, 2005

while PD and Conker would be nice... I think the game best suited for the DS control scheme and niche genre appeal is Blast Corps. That's one of my favorite N64 titles and the idea of doing spin outs in the dump truck with touch screen control sounds amazing to me...

NephilimJuly 07, 2005

update versions of conker and pd would be nice
KI gold would also be nice...

Berto2KJuly 07, 2005

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Woo Hoo, I got mentioned on a front page news story!!! yay for me!!

I mentioned this in the other thread, but I will repeat it here too.
It was rumored that Rare was playing around with a DS dev kit a while ago, and that they also had a few playable levels up & running from PD. I heard that this may have also been seen/heard at E3 this year.

your right, it was e3 2004 face-icon-small-happy.gif
http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=2122

we told ya, but no one believed it face-icon-small-smile.gif

JonLeungJuly 07, 2005

Killer Instinct...hmmm...

Touch-screen C-C-C-Combo Breakers?

Then again, maybe not. >_<

nickmitchJuly 07, 2005

Is Rare supporting the PSP?

steveyJuly 07, 2005

So the traders are crawling back eh I hope this mean there porting the only good game there ever made Killer Instinct.

BlackNMild2k1July 07, 2005

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Originally posted by: stevey
So the traders are crawling back eh I hope this mean there porting the only good game there ever made Killer Instinct.

Somebody grab some rope.........

Bill AurionJuly 07, 2005

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Originally posted by: TVman
Is Rare supporting the PSP?

I believe MS said a while back that they would rather support the DS over the PSP since they see Sony as their main competitor...

miedoJuly 07, 2005

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
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Originally posted by: TVman
Is Rare supporting the PSP?

I believe MS said a while back that they would rather support the DS over the PSP since they see Sony as their main competitor...


And besides, according to Gates, Nintendo is a "niche" company. We can't be any good competition for him face-icon-small-wink.gif

KDR_11kJuly 07, 2005

Also developing for the PSP is more expensive and I don't think they're going to blow ten million on some "minor" product.

RobageejamminJuly 07, 2005

Developers better get a clue that the DS isnt a port machine. Mario worked out great and everything due to the simple textures and big atmosphere but more advanced ports like Rayman end up discraceful.

Being that Rare really made the best looking titles for the N64, a Conker or JetForce Gemini port would sound appetizing but would be disastrous. Its a must that developers make the game compatible with the DS playfield. Like Joeposh said, something like Blast corps would really be an ideal port for DS.

Basically, the DS is not the GBA where you can easily port nes, snes titles at a blink of an eye. it just doesnt work in 3d.

couchmonkeyJuly 08, 2005

I believe an FPS could work out extremely well on the DS, and I really don't see how Perfect Dark on Nintendo DS "competes" with Perfect Dark on Xbox 360 in any way whatsoever. Two totally different systems.

While Rare has botched up it's Xbox projects, I really enjoyed Sabre Wulf and It's Mr. Pants on Gameboy, so I'm happy to hear this.

BlackNMild2k1July 08, 2005

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Originally posted by: Robageejammin
Developers better get a clue that the DS isnt a port machine. Mario worked out great and everything due to the simple textures and big atmosphere but more advanced ports like Rayman end up discraceful.

Being that Rare really made the best looking titles for the N64, a Conker or JetForce Gemini port would sound appetizing but would be disastrous. Its a must that developers make the game compatible with the DS playfield. Like Joeposh said, something like Blast corps would really be an ideal port for DS.

Basically, the DS is not the GBA where you can easily port nes, snes titles at a blink of an eye. it just doesnt work in 3d.
I realize that you are taking about ports, but you make is sound as if 3D sux on DS and shouldn't be attempted unless its something that is simple.

Tak a look @ this and tell me that the DS isn't capable if you put in a little more effort:
Look at the Tak 3 trailer but forgive the compression (and my pun in the last sentence face-icon-small-smile.gif). This should raise the bar on what to expect from a 3D game on DS. Remember that the DS is slightly more powerful than an N64, so the highest quality of N64 gaming should be expected at the least.

hudsonhawkJuly 08, 2005

Shows you how small of a threat they see Nintendo as on the next generation console front.

Personally, I'm pumped about this; anyone who doesn't think good things will come out of this is blinding themselves with fervent fanboism. Given that they're expected to have titles ready at launch that both look unbelievable, my guess is that MS made the decision to push the Rare games back to the next generation back when it was apparent they weren't going to win this generation (which was a while ago).

BlackNMild2k1July 08, 2005

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Originally posted by: hudsonhawk
Shows you how small of a threat they see Nintendo as on the next generation console front.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Using the DS to help topple the PSP and also make DS gamers (especially Japanese) aware of Microsoft Games, is a good way for MS to help establish awareness for its brands, therefore selling more 360's (especially in Japan). A trojan horse of sorts into the Japanese gaming enviroment, selling graphically inferior ports of its established console franchises that give you a taste of what the 360 gonna offer.

The only drawback is that the DS offers free multiplayer wifi/lan and MS has Live which cost money to play multiplayer....
that could be a potential downer for sales of the console version, unless you are already a 360 owner & Live subscriber.

KDR_11kJuly 08, 2005

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

That kind of thinking brought us way too many new enemies because "my enemy's enemy" might turn on me after our enemy is gone. See Bin-Laden or Hussein. You really don't want to continue to apply that logic.

nickmitchJuly 09, 2005

Yeah, there are such things as 3 sided conflicts.

steveyJuly 10, 2005

"Nintendo is a "niche" company. We can't be any good competition for him "

Nintendo isn't a niche company like stupid mac and os x NINTENDO IS VIDEO GAMES!

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