Topic: GCN2 = "Revolution"

[DrZoidberg]

lol armchair CEO lol. I would like to discourage those sort of posts, and encourage more relevent discussion on what games / features etc the Revolution will have.

[nolimit19]

lol well do you mean will have or should have....i did give those types of opinions in there. all i know is that if nintendo did all of those besides bribe the mags and the paris hilton thing, they would be a sure success.

[Guitar Smasher]

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Originally posted by: odifiend
I wouldn't get too excited yet.  Feasible doesn't mean it will happen.  Rumors say this thing will have a hard drive (rumors are all I have to work with, I know it's sad).  If it does have a hard drive and it is backwards compatible, I don't need a dvd player driving up the price some more.
BTW, what media is the DS going to be using?  Nintendo says that the DS offers a taste of things to come for the Revolution.  They already shot down the Revolution being dual screened.  So that leaves sweet wireless connectivity or some DS-like media notorious to the DS.  To me, 30 meter connectivity on a home console doesn't make much sense, so it could possibly be a different medium on this console.  And then like the DS, there would be a place for the Revolution's predecessor for backward-compatibility.

Wow, you might not think much of the '30m connectivity', but that really got me thinking.  It sort of borrows from that 'appartment idea' too.  Just imagine playing wireless LAN, with absolutely no setup.  You just need 2 Revolutions, and 2 TVs.  Your system will automatically detect the other system, within a certain radius (hopefully bigger than 30m).  What's special about this, is that you don't have to move any televisions sets.  You don't have to hook up both systems to a network.  Frankly, I find this bloody brilliant.  If this could be possible with no separate networks, simply one console communicating with another, wirelessly (comparable to Wavebird communicating with GameCube, it could be 'revolutionary'.  LAN would be so simple, something which would follow Nintendo's ideology.  As of now, I've been turned off by the complexity of LAN gaming, but this really appeals to me.  As long as everything is built in, that is.  

[odifiend]

I wasn't scoffing at 30 meter connectivity at all and somewhere on this forum I've posted my issues with Nintendo's currently LAN setup complexity so I empathize with how you're turned off by complex setups.  I like your idea and it's convenience but I think it is kind of small scale.  While Nintendo's current requirements for LAN gaming may be ridiculous, if you put this idea side by side with Xbox's LAN, a wireless LAN is a pretty small revolution.  I hope Nintendo has something else in store for the Revolution (I found out DS is using card-cart thingys so I'm positive it is wireless something that Iwata was chirping about).
GS, you have a good common sensical idea that I hope Nintendo does include. (Hopefully, they were thinking what you were thinking)  Actually I have a linksys wireless router and two wireless receivers.  I have the ability to pick up a bunch of my neighbors signals which would be cool for the revolution provided Nintendo is once again in every living room.  Even so, frankly I don't like most of my neighbors.  
You know Gamesmasher's idea would be awesome in Japan since it is a much smaller geographical country (than the US in my case).  I hope Nintendo isn't ignoring North American audiences again...

[DrZoidberg]

I'd love to see that idea in practice in Australia, what with our hilariously poor Nintendo support and 1 person per square kilometre populous distribution thing. If they're going to have WiFi in the DS, why not have it in the Revolution aswell?

[Burning Excalibur]

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As for the revolution, I'm still sticking to my original concept for it.  They should release the revolution (N5) with a somewhat retro look to it.  Make it look like a sleek NES, slimmer with a automatice drive for cds in the place where the catridges used to go, 4 controller slots the norm.  Just think about it, the retro gameboy sp in selling lovely in japan along with its games.  A new nintendo system with a throwback look to the nes yet still fresh and new and it'll be a wrap.  Make it standard platinum with the logo on the top of the system similar to the top cover of the ds.  I hope yous are seein it like I see it , cuase its looking lovely in my eyes lol.

Wow... I couldn't have said it more beautifully. I've always hoped that a next gen. system for the Nintendo Line-up would throw back to the NES or the SNES. Especially since I never did get my hands on an SNES. If they would do something like that, I would die happy. It would be just like having my own SNES, and as an added bonus, having the newest bestest technology and gaming to play with.

[DrZoidberg]

Then people would accuse Nintendo for trying to resell it's history back to consumers in a new package. To cheaply use the NES and/or SNES's popularity as a way to push their new console along, I don't see it happening.

[Lamech]

Nintendo said it wanted to revolutionize gaming; that means do somthing never done before in the entire gaming world. So expecting it to be just an attached screen, LAN, and Backwards Compatible is not enough to live up to what Nintendo proposed to do. All of these have been seen in the gaming industry before. What Nintendo claimed to be doing is not only save themselves, but the entire gaming industry from the horrible decline in game sales. They realized that all systems are basically the same and that somthing needs to be changed besides graphics. If they fail to do something unique, like they implied, they might have their first failing console system, the virtual boy repeat. But if they do come up with something new there is a 50-50 chance of it being loved and become the gaming system that all the other systems will convert to, or it will fail miserably. Its risky, but a risk that needs to be taken in today's failing gaming economy. We need somthing new.

Praying for the Best,
-Lamech

[Burning Excalibur]

Hmmm.... reselling history. That's true... then Nintendo would be following suit of Sony. I'm almost positive that I can't count on one hand ANY games the Playstation 1 and 2 have that isn't a remake or some damn sports game. That's the whole reason I never bought a PS2. The games are just plain terrible. Anyway, I'm offtrack.

Nintendo, I'm sure will have something in store for all of us. Or, they may pull the GC trick again: Have little secret ports that don't do anything on the bottom. Then they COULD say "Future Installments." That would buy them a little time, even if they don't know what the Hell would work with the designed ports. They would be shoving their thumbs up their own asses but what CAN they DO?

[Chode2234]

humm, nintendo classics on GBA for 25.00, they do it everyday more than any other company, have we gotten an original mario or zelda on GBA, not its all ports of nes and snes games.  The GBA is like the portable SNES, only I have to buy everything over again...

Don't kind yourself about Nintendo, they are rich greedy Japanese men who really don't care about you other than your wallet...

[The Omen]

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Then people would accuse Nintendo for trying to resell it's history back to consumers in a new package. To cheaply use the NES and/or SNES's popularity as a way to push their new console along, I don't see it happening.

I think Nintendo can pull off retro, because frankly, they are the only ones who have been around that long.  I know I started a thread long ago about Nintendo using nostalgia as a strength, and I wont go over all my reasons again, but it would work very well.  

[DrZoidberg]

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Originally posted by: Burning Excalibur
. I'm almost positive that I can't count on one hand ANY games the Playstation 1 and 2 have that isn't a remake or some damn sports game. That's the whole reason I never bought a PS2. The games are just plain terrible.

Oh, just going on the games I own here we go:-
PS1
Guilty Gear
Beatmania
Vib Ribbon
Grandia

PS2
Sky Odyssey
Greggory Horror Show
SOS Final Escape
ICO
Silpheed

Also, I don't really see how that's relevent to the discussion at hand, or even the point I raised.

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Anyway, I'm offtrack.

Band for off topic.

[Bill Aurion]

Hey hey hey, Dr. Zoidberg, sir...It's all up to personal game taste...The only games I have for my PS/2 is FFVII, GGXX, and GTA...I don't like the sort of games for it either...

[DrZoidberg]

No, it's not really Bill.

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I'm almost positive that I can't count on one hand ANY games the Playstation 1 and 2 have that isn't a remake or some damn sports game.

oh, this is just wrong, good games or no, so in this thread I disproved it.

[Shift Key]

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The only games I have for my PS/2 is FFVII, GGXX, and GTA...I don't like the sort of games for it either...

Etna says "dood, you disappoint me Bill"
and yuna is ugly, aw noes here comes tremin9's angst bus  

EDIT: Aw noes, DrZ is on the attack. Better look important to the topic.

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Then people would accuse Nintendo for trying to resell it's history back to consumers in a new package. To cheaply use the NES and/or SNES's popularity as a way to push their new console along,

Do you choose to disregard much of the GBA's lifespan, because its gotten this far based on retro/rehashed games? The fact that much of the "glory days" of Nintendo have been re-released on the platform pleases and saddens me at the same time. Probably saddens because there are other games that deserve to be redone instead of "another Mario game" needs more unirallying up the joint

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they are rich greedy Japanese men who really don't care about you other than your wallet...

blol, come to Australia and shout Nintendo in a busy place. You'd get carted away to the nuthouse before someone else recognises what a Nintendo is these days. If they really were greedy, they'd have done a better job down under and made a dozen Pokemon Colloseums already.

[PugGTI]

dunno about pokemon colloseums... but you're sure right about Nintendo droppping out of existence

[Mannypon]

Just think about it, the retro look would sell like crazy.  Nintendo is trying to tap into the mainstream, the older crowd.  Retro and throwbacks are whats sellings today.  Jerseys, sneakers, people are paying loot for these throwbacks.  The retro sp and games in japan are a big hit and what better way for nintendo to lure in the older crowd then to hit them with nostalgia, remind them of why the majority of them got into gaming to begin with.  Regardless, a slimmed down, platinum nes looking system would look lovely lol.  Besides, I have a feeling sony and microsoft are goin to stick to their current designs with their next systems.  I think it'll look different but the same color scheme will be in place.  PS3 in black and blue and xenon or whatever the next xbox will be called in black and green.  Just a hunch though.

[ThePerm]

imagine if revolution came packed with a few nes games...built into the system

[Ian Sane]

"imagine if revolution came packed with a few nes games...built into the system"

Yeah they probably would be Ice Climber, Clu Clu Land, and Donkey Kong still without the missing level.  Wa-hoo.

In reality it is a good idea, Nintendo just probably wouldn't do a very good job of it.  I would prefer some SNES titles myself.  Hell if they included Super Metroid or Super Mario RPG they would sell a few consoles right there.

I think they should take it further and make a deal with Treasure to get Radiant Silvergun as a pack-in.  That alone would attract a huge amount of hardcore gamers not wanting to spend the dough on the Saturn version.

[Picceelo]

Nintendo Revolution

[KDR_11k]

That mock up was posted here before.

I like this Grey Ninja quote: "In other news, Nintendo describes Sony's marketting division as a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first against the wall when the Revolution comes."

[Mumei]

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I think they should take it further and make a deal with Treasure to get Radiant Silvergun as a pack-in.

Coolest.Idea.Ever.

I would absolutely love it if Treasure ported Radiant Silvergun.  I want that so badly, but I'm not going to spend 200+ of my own money for game >_<.

[Bill Aurion]

Oh, so you'd gladly spend others' money...

But I also want RS a lot...I think Treasure should just bundle a bunch of their classics like RS, Gunstar Heroes, and Mischief Makers and sell it as a compilation...That's my dream game... ^_^

[Ian Sane]

"I think Treasure should just bundle a bunch of their classics like RS, Gunstar Heroes, and Mischief Makers and sell it as a compilation"

Screw my original idea.  They should include THAT as the pack-in.  If they signed Treasure as an exclusive second party it actually would be a really good way to get new owners familiar with them.  Include a demo for a new game that they're working on with Nintendo with the comp and it will create hype for what would otherwise be an overlooked title.

Bob buys the Revolution for the new Mario game.  Bob plays Treasure comp that came packed in and falls in love with those games.  Bob plays demo to new exclusive Treasure game and loves it so much that he buys the new game when it comes out and tells all his friends.  Treasure becomes Nintendo's next Rare.  That's simplifying things a lot but that would be the ideal way to create a strong brand name for a Nintendo second party.

I just like the idea of porting rare games to the Revolution.  Pad lulls in the post-launch period with re-releases of NiGHTS, Dragon Force, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Ogre Battle, Dragon Warrior IV, Sonic CD; stuff not released in North America like Dragon Warrior V and VI, Final Fantasy III, and the entire Fire Emblem series; and perfect arcade comps of titles like X-Men or The Simpsons that never got a decent home release.  Third parties would go for it because the effort involved in re-releases is small and gamers wouldn't mind because unlike most GBA ports these are ports of obscure titles that haven't been played by everyone to death.  Obviously you don't want the Rev to be a port machine but this would be a good way to fill the release schedule between major new releases and hardcore gaming nuts would be all over it.

[Mumei]

I would kill to have those Saturn games on the Revolution.  I'm getting a Saturn for NiGHTs, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Dragon Force, Shining Force III, etc...

And Treasure would kick infinite amounts of ass as a second-party... One of my absolute favorite developers.