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Offline Ian Sane

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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2004, 12:47:05 PM »
"i'd really get a big kick if sega announced it was creating its own console that will launch christmas of '05."

Oh man.  FOUR consoles?  That would ensure at least one console maker would die and odds are it wouldn't be Sony or Microsoft.  It would totally kill MS in Japan though.  


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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2004, 02:24:27 PM »
Yeah I really don't think Sega would reenter the hardware business sorry. But I do believe that Ian's idea here would be really great. It would definetly add some variety and stuff and it would leave Microsoft with no Japanese developers, which would kill any chance of Microsoft making it at all in Japan. So lets see Nintendo gets exclusive content from Sega and hurts Microsoft, well I'm all for it then.

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RE:A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2004, 02:57:15 PM »
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*Update* A Sega rep has informed us that the next machine will be of platinum color.
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« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2004, 04:12:41 PM »
Ian was right=Sega+Nintendo=The 'Sinten5', console of the future!
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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2004, 04:38:34 PM »
actually, shouldn't it be the sintenga 9.5 or something like that?
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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2004, 05:30:14 PM »
I like the name Exodus.  It's similar to the Genesis name and it marks Sega's "exodus" to the Nintendo camp.

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« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2004, 08:43:23 PM »
As far as budget titles go Ian, just cut my $3-$5 per until fees in half for budget titles. In regards to what Sega's announcement will be, I have bad feeling its an alliance with MS. I hope its and alliance with Nintendo but I've really have no confidence in Nintendo as of late. Given the size of their warchest, I would have expected more effort from them. It seems like they are just going through the motions IMO. Sega could announce a new console I wouldn't completely rule out that possibility. Since their games did sell better on their own hardware but I think an alliance with Nintendo, Sony, or MS would be more likely. Oh and to Nintendo, YOU HAVE 6 TO 7 BILLION DOLLARS JUST LYING AROUND!!! USE SOME OF IT FOR GOD'S SAKE!!

BTW Sorry about yelling. Psst...Nintendo buy Sega....Psst..Psst Do it now.

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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2004, 12:08:23 AM »
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SEGA to make a new console for next gen wars?

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RE:A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2004, 03:14:30 AM »
Very, very nice concept, Ian, but as several have stated, it's just not financially realistic.  My solution is a tad obvious, and I haven't read the other posts but someone probably already had this diea, but I think a fusion between Nintendo and SEGA is in order.  That way, they could  be NintEGA (lol) or SEGAtendo (lol again), and since they'd be one huge company, that one huge company would derive profits from licensing, and that's one less company Nintendo would HAVE to license.  Think about it; that means the rocking ESPN series would return to Nintendo's home console, and SEGA is a heavy supporter of going online.  This means the N5's third party might (hopefully) be more supportive of online if the first party itself is going all-out.  Please, Iwata-san, read this thread...

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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2004, 03:47:39 AM »
Well, giving Sega free licensing would certinally enourage them to support the N5, but I doubt Nintendo could squeeze an excusivity deal just from that. Perhaps with certain development houses instead?

What I would find to be the most interesting affect from a merger like this would be what it does to Nintendo's image: instead of being the 'kiddy' company, Nintendo would be the 'old-school' company, and immediately seal almost all hardcore gamers. I doubt it would really help Nintendo's public image among the casual gamers, but it would be at least a nice change
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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2004, 07:31:31 AM »
"giving Sega free licensing would certinally enourage them to support the N5, but I doubt Nintendo could squeeze an excusivity deal just from that."

Sega must drive a hard bargain then.  Nintendo would essentially allow them to make games for FREE.  What sort of developer wouldn't be willing to exchange exclusive support for that?  Hell they would probably release every game on the N5 even without a deal in place just because it would so easy for them to make a profit.

"I think a fusion between Nintendo and SEGA is in order."

The problem with that is that the two companies are actually pretty different.  Sega and Nintendo make different kinds of games and Sega loves online gaming while Nintendo hates it.  Those two different philosophies would not gel.  Plus when two companies merge often one of them is in charge.  So you would either have Nintendo in charge in which case online still would not be part of their future plans or you would have Sega in charge who has proven to have no real clue how to sell a console.  By remaining as two independant companies they compliment their strengths and weaknesses.  If they merge then they're just Nintendo or Sega but with more exisiting game properties to make use of.

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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2004, 12:55:35 PM »
Isn't SEGA owned by Sammy or something, or did that never happen.

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« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2004, 01:49:45 PM »
Sammy has 22.4% of Sega's stock making it the largest holder in the company, but Sega wasn't sold...
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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2004, 02:13:12 PM »
Ian is just so awesome.
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RE:A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2004, 03:25:13 PM »
Rumor? or actual insider info?
You don't have to believe it but these stories just keep popping up

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Now SEGA is gonna go exclusive to one console and leave there brand/logo on front of the console like the 'Dolby Digital' logo!?
Something tells me it is with Microsoft, but I really hope that it is with Nintendo, that is if its true.  

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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2004, 08:55:49 PM »
If Sega went exclusive for Microsoft, they'd go down in no time. A cheap-ass DC port on the GC sold more than all of their XBox exclusives combined!

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RE:A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2004, 09:00:49 PM »
Let me say, IF the announcement is about Sega forming an alliance with a major console maker and develop exclusive to that console, I have to say that that might turn out to be a good thing - for Sega fanboys.

Why?  B/c then we won't have to worry about Sega games being scattered across all 3 consoles and can just buy the one console they will develop exclusive for.  No more worries about which system the next big Sega game will come on.


EDIT: read KDR's post.  MS slipped my mind.  If Sega alliance is w/ MS, that could be a deathwish.

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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2004, 11:31:22 PM »
"A cheap-ass DC port on the GC sold more than all of their XBox exclusives combined!"

Was that Sonic Adventure 2?  Anyhoo I don't think being Xbox exclusive would be that terrible for Sega.  The problem with their current Xbox lineup is that it's all hardcore niche titles which naturally aren't going to sell as well as their big guns like Sonic or Virtua Fighter.  How well did Sonic Heroes sell on the Xbox?  I imagine it outsold all of their other titles.  I think if all of Sega's games were on the Xbox they would be able to sell some of their more mainstream titles and they would attract all of the Sega fans to one console.  I imagine a big reason their Xbox games aren't doing so well is because their fanbase is split over multiple consoles and probably a lot of those fans have chosen the Cube or PS2 because they have the more popular Sega franchises.

Still I would consider the Xbox the worst choice of the three for Sega to go with.  The Xbox audience is by far the most '"casual" of the three.  Sega would do better with either Nintendo or Sony.

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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2004, 04:37:02 AM »
That said, I'd greatly prefer sega stayed to a single console, despite which console it was.

Just like I prefer every nintendo game on a single console.  I wish getting all the Sega games i wanted was that easy.
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RE: A bold idea for the N5
« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2004, 01:39:38 AM »
On Slashdot people mentioned things that are likely and unlikely, a merger or exclusivity were really improbable because they still have titles in development for all major platforms. The thing most likely was "mega ton" (i.e. the same style of announcement).

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« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2004, 06:21:12 AM »
I doubt it's an exclusitivity deal, but even if it were I don't think also having games for other platforms would be an issue. It could be a plan that takes effect next generation, not immediately. They need to make money somehow for the next 2 yrs.

Still, I don't think it's as big as its being made out to be.

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