Author Topic: Eternal Darkness 2 Marketing Tactic: Reasons (Read 55235 times)

Syl · « **Reply #175 on:** May 04, 2004, 06:05:29 PM »

i'll just say this:
...its been a while since anyone has even talked of the matter, hasn't it?

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #176 on:** May 04, 2004, 06:18:24 PM »

It's almost E3 time, so just keep your socks on... ^_^

Rich · « **Reply #177 on:** May 04, 2004, 06:48:20 PM »

yeah 7 more days and all the answers will be revealed. I can't wait.

EatChildren · « **Reply #178 on:** May 05, 2004, 05:24:13 AM »

Woah, this thread has turned into a monster.

Yep, 7 days to go till we all learn the horrible (maybe) truth.

The Omen · « **Reply #179 on:** May 06, 2004, 07:43:07 PM »

Well, being a pessimist by nature, i'll assume the worst, however it wouldn't be incredibly shocking to hear it was all a scam either. A little surprising that Nintendo has a sense of humor, but not shocking.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #180 on:** May 06, 2004, 08:19:49 PM »

My 'unofficial' Eternal Darkness trailer is done. But it's not 'online' yet.

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #181 on:** May 06, 2004, 08:27:58 PM »

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Originally posted by: Bill
It's almost E3 time, so just keep your socks on... ^_^

My socks have already been knocked off!

Gamecubivore · « **Reply #182 on:** May 07, 2004, 04:43:25 AM »

Interesting. I can honestly see it going either way. It makes good business sense for SK to develop for other platforms. . . and SK does seem to have a differing vision in game design from that of Nintendo's. . . So I'm not gonna jump out and say you all are probobly right. . . but more and more I'm seeing the possibility. Of course that might just be fanboy coping mechanisims. Not too much longer I guess. . . Personally, I'm preparing to be let down

. . . *is secretly hopeful*

Gamecubivore · « **Reply #183 on:** May 07, 2004, 08:48:24 PM »

Sorry to sort of post right after myself but I was looking at the IGN Gamecube boards and there was a locked topic titled: "Its impossible for SK to have gone third party/left altogether because (evidence inside)"

Of course it could have been locked for any number of reasons. . . but. . .

Mannypon · « **Reply #184 on:** May 07, 2004, 09:49:53 PM »

"IGN or someone violated an NDA. Someone leaked the surprise a month ago, and it wasn't supposed to happen. Thus, when "Silicon Knights Title" was added to the Big E3 list, the surprise was out. What better way to cover it then to announce that your company is no longer making games for Nintendo? Seeing that announcement come the day after IGN added "Silicon Knights Title" to their E3 lineup is suspicious as all hell.

That's why Matt broke the story. Cause IGN ****ed up, end of story."

this was posted on the e3 section but I brought it here since it relates to this story and its somethin I dont think anyone has touched on yet here. Aint sure who said this cuase I quoted it from a qoute lol but just addin more wood to the fire.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #185 on:** May 07, 2004, 10:02:52 PM »

"Wag the Dog," starring Robert DeNiro. (sp?)

savanna03 · « **Reply #186 on:** May 08, 2004, 08:07:35 AM »

E3 next week. few more days 'til we learn the truth. its beggining to scream "FAKE, FAKE" as the days goes by. ill bet we all going for a ride.

Perfect Cell · « **Reply #187 on:** May 08, 2004, 09:29:04 AM »

Sorry but that seems absurd to me. Why not simply take off the SK Game from the E3 list instead? Why would IGN make a up an entirely new story, that could hurt Nintendo, to cover their own mistake, and then have Nintendo go along with it? Seems like wishfull thinking. Silicon Knights are gone folks, unless something shocking happens in the next week.

savanna03 · « **Reply #188 on:** May 08, 2004, 09:51:12 AM »

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Originally posted by: Perfect Cell
Sorry but that seems absurd to me. Why not simply take off the SK Game from the E3 list instead? Why would IGN make a up an entirely new story, that could hurt Nintendo, to cover their own mistake, and then have Nintendo go along with it? Seems like wishfull thinking. Silicon Knights are gone folks, unless something shocking happens in the next week.

uhmmm... NINTENDO didn't go along with it. the last time i heard that there were no official announcement therefore the stock wont change because the investor weren't awere about it. MATT from IGN said that the official announcement are going to be sometime in the future until the papers are sign but the problem is, why did they claim it as a news when nothing are sign and official yet. it just doesn't make sense when a fansite get the heads up first before the official source. plus BLOODWORTH i think from PLANETGAMECUBE claim it was true story from one of the tread that it was coming from DYACK himself from a "phone conversation." no press conference but "phone conversation."

either way... if it ends up true, i wont stress about it cuz i can finally afford two console next time around anyways.

almondblight · « **Reply #189 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:15:29 AM »

Don't people normally get in trouble for leaking information like this before it is finalized? I mean, wouldn't they have to tell the share-holders first before they go around telling online fansites? Also, don't you think it's odd that PGC and IGN didn't say there was anything odd about it?

Perfect Cell · « **Reply #190 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:52:57 AM »

NINTENDO didn't go along with it

Email Nintendo Customer Service and ask them... their response is the same as Dydacks... this is too large to be a legitimate conspiracy... Someone would have talked... Silicon Knights are gone folks

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #191 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:53:12 AM »

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Don't people normally get in trouble for leaking information like this before it is finalized?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm almost certain that an NDA is a legally binding contract that prohibits those involved from talking about something. If they break an NDA, lawsuits could be in order, especially if it does some damage.

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Sorry but that seems absurd to me. Why not simply take off the SK Game from the E3 list instead? Why would IGN make a up an entirely new story, that could hurt Nintendo, to cover their own mistake, and then have Nintendo go along with it? Seems like wishfull thinking. Silicon Knights are gone folks, unless something shocking happens in the next week.

Eh, that's not the only explanation- in fact, it's probably the worst explanation so far, so don't dismiss the entire hoax case just because this particular musing was off. I doubt IGN initiated it at all.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #192 on:** May 08, 2004, 11:07:15 AM »

"Why would IGN make a up an entirely new story, that could hurt Nintendo, to cover their own mistake, and then have Nintendo go along with it?"

Ahahahaha!

John Cena · « **Reply #193 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:10:09 PM »

Hey SK aint gone the contract Expired they will just make a new one

odifiend · « **Reply #194 on:** May 08, 2004, 02:46:16 PM »

That's all the break amounts to...them deciding not to make a new contract.

ruby_onix · « **Reply #195 on:** May 08, 2004, 07:13:02 PM »

Probably. That would make the most sense.

But to hear IGN say it, "Nintendo and SK are done with each other. They split up. That's it. It's over. Finished. SK is making PS2 games as we speak."

Which is probably why we aren't too keen on believing them when they say "It's really official, trust us, but don't go looking for proof, because there isn't any."

And then they laugh at us when we doubt them, spouting our "crazy theories".

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #196 on:** May 08, 2004, 08:05:40 PM »

IGN delights in pointing out what's wrong with Nintendo.

I think they're still bitter over the whole online thing.

This wouldn't be a problem if they didn't pull stuff out of their ass that makes Nintendo look bad... remember the whole "Factor 5 leaving" fiasco?

Mannypon · « **Reply #197 on:** May 08, 2004, 08:45:44 PM »

Matts quote: "This is the rare case that the skeptics are right"

took this from the e3 forum, seems interesting if he really said it.

Urkel · « **Reply #198 on:** May 08, 2004, 09:07:55 PM »

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Originally posted by: Perfect Cell
NINTENDO didn't go along with it

Email Nintendo Customer Service and ask them... their response is the same as Dydacks... this is too large to be a legitimate conspiracy... Someone would have talked... Silicon Knights are gone folks

Which is what leads me to believe this is a hoax. When has Nintendo Customer Service ever confirmed something before any official statement? Never, to my knowledge. The fact that they're using the same response as Dyack's doesn't neccessarily mean anything. If it is a hoax, I would imagine both parties would've gotten together to get their stories straight.

I also find it strange how this arguably large piece of news has seemingly fallen off the radar. Sure, Nintendo forums are ablaze about this, but where are the "Nintendo is doomed because they lost SK" knee-jerk editorials that usually pop up when something like this happens?

As for the reason why Nintendo would do something so cool as to create a hoax, when it's not in their nature to be so cool... I think that's the point. Supposedly Nintendo plans on trying to change its image at E3, and pulling off a stunt like this would be a good start. Just imagine, what would be the only black mark on Nintendo's E3 showing this year, and it's just a joke. And a great one at that.

Anyway, it's not like I'm so certain I would bet my life on it, it's just that nothing adds up. My only two conclusions at this point are:

1. The gaming media are doing a piss-poor job of following up on this bombshell story.

2. The gaming media are doing a piss-poor job of following up on this bombshell story purposely, because it's a hoax.

Oh, and in the latest issue of Nintendo Power, they said they hoped on bringing info on SK's next big project soon. Makes you wonder...

ruby_onix · « **Reply #199 on:** May 09, 2004, 12:05:36 AM »

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Oh, and in the latest issue of Nintendo Power, they said they hoped on bringing info on SK's next big project soon. Makes you wonder...

Quite. It's been almost two months since this dustup, and I get my latest Nintendo Power (the June issue, #180), and right there in the letter column it has...

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KNIGHTLY PROGRESS
Has Nintendo any plans to produce another episode of Eternal Darkness in the near future? And what has become of the Silicon Knights studios that produced this game?
Steve N.
Via the Internet

There have been no announcements about another Eternal Darkness game, but you never know what may happen. The talented folks at Silicon Kinghts are still making games, though. They recently teamed up with Konami to make Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes for GCN--the game was released in March. We hope to bring you news on Silicon Knights's next big project soon!

If a split with SK is in the works, and Nintendo knows it's coming, they're doing a pretty lousy job of getting us ready for the bad news...

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