Author Topic: Eternal Darkness 2 Marketing Tactic: Reasons (Read 55353 times)

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #150 on:** April 27, 2004, 12:22:54 PM »

"GAH!! THat's NOT what you promised, JIM!!"

from Metal Gearl Solid: The Twin Snakes.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #151 on:** April 27, 2004, 12:48:08 PM »

"If Nintendo and SK have really split, though, it's very stupid to wait until E3 to properly announce it because it will drag down all the good news they have."

Maybe Nintendo thinks it's good news. Can't you imagine Iwata with a silly grin on his face saying "we are pleased to announce that we are no longer involved with Silicon Knights. Their focus on 'mature content' and 'story' is not the future. With them out of the way we are free to decidate our resources to new types of gaming that attract a wider audience. We are confident we can accomplish this with our new line of lever pulling games."

Hmmm. I started this post as a joke and now I'm actually worried about that really happening.

GaimeGuy · « **Reply #152 on:** April 27, 2004, 01:05:12 PM »

Rich, Eternal Darkness was first in develpment for the PS, then the N64, and then was released on the GC. Kind of like Too Human, except it's been released.

the_zombie_luke · « **Reply #153 on:** April 27, 2004, 01:15:48 PM »

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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
If Nintendo and SK have really split, though, it's very stupid to wait until E3 to properly announce it because it will drag down all the good news they have. If this is true, Nintendo should have either said absolutely nothing about it before E3 or at the very least had their statement and gotten it over with long before E3 started at all. They did neither.

Exactly. That would be a weird decision I'm sure even Nintendo would not make. Besides, what is most suspicious about this news is that IGN listed another SK game would be shown at E3, and then the game was taken off the list when this news came. That is fishy, considering IGN makes sure to confirm which games will be there.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #154 on:** April 27, 2004, 02:06:42 PM »

Let's just give it a rest, for a short bit.

If someone wants to get a little more info out of Mr. Dyack, why not challenge him to a full-contact Tae Kwan Do match?

Dazzybee · « **Reply #155 on:** April 28, 2004, 10:48:49 AM »

IGN have posted a few more titbits about it - theyve said that from the announcements and INSIDER KNOWLEDGE they have taken Too Human off the release list! As although it is still in production they believe it wont be for the Cube or the CubeNext!!!!

This is so crap!!! Do people still believe its a sanity effect? I think the bad news is usually the right news.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #156 on:** April 28, 2004, 11:21:41 AM »

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I think the bad news is usually the right news.

I've got some bad news- you're ignorant.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #157 on:** April 28, 2004, 05:22:58 PM »

Or maybe SK might try to get the game that was stolen from them Legacy of Kain Blood Omen

yellowfellow · « **Reply #158 on:** April 28, 2004, 06:40:18 PM »

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Maybe Nintendo thinks it's good news. Can't you imagine Iwata with a silly grin on his face saying "we are pleased to announce that we are no longer involved with Silicon Knights. Their focus on 'mature content' and 'story' is not the future. With them out of the way we are free to decidate our resources to new types of gaming that attract a wider audience. We are confident we can accomplish this with our new line of lever pulling games."

at this point they will probably also reveal the plans for the N5 controller. Ergodynamic, Retro-cool, and SIMPLE.

go go MS Paint!

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #159 on:** April 28, 2004, 07:09:48 PM »

HOLY SMOKES

Look at that form, that style!
With the added rumble features, it'll be more 'friendly' than the "Rez vibration device."

The Omen · « **Reply #160 on:** April 29, 2004, 06:41:36 AM »

The SK website still has the Nintendo logo prominately displayed. I know the webmaster hasn't changed it since MGS:TT was released, but come on, you would have to think they would have removed it by now. IGN also mentioned something about 'we'll learn more after the papers are signed' . If there were papers still to be signed, wouldn't they be signed before Denis announces they've split? There is definitely something unusual going on. I'm not saying they're not split, but this whole situation doesn't make a bit of sense.

vudu · « **Reply #161 on:** April 29, 2004, 08:05:24 AM »

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I know the webmaster hasn't changed it since MGS:TT was released

check again...the website hasn't been updated since mgs:tt was announced. that's almost a year ago.

Rhoq · « **Reply #162 on:** April 29, 2004, 08:33:39 AM »

Yeah, I think more-than-likely, the SK webmaster is just being lazy and hasn't gotten around to making the necessary site updates to the Silicon Knights website. It hasn't been update in almost a year.

I have tons of pages floating around in CyberSpace that haven't been updated in years. Although for a professional organization/company you would think they would have updated the site by now with information regarding what's going on with Nintendo and/or remove the Ninntendo logo if they are infact no longer an exclusive 2nd party.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #163 on:** April 29, 2004, 10:59:50 AM »

I'm not even sure if they really even HAVE a webmaster. All that stuff on their site could've been something one of their dev team members produced one weekend.

The last time the site was updated was last year, concerning MGSTTS, after its E3 debut. The last update prior to that, concerned Eternal Darkness' release, which was another year earlier. So, we might just get another quick, ANNUAL, E3 site update.

ThePerm · « **Reply #164 on:** April 29, 2004, 02:18:30 PM »

after legacy of kaine was released i checked the way back machine..they didnt update their site for like 3 years.
Oh and gamimeguy..i never heard of eternal darkness for psx being devloped ever...it pretty much seemed like a nintendo created project for sk. what i mean is..its what sk started to make as soon as they got 64 dev kits.

Dazzybee · « **Reply #165 on:** April 30, 2004, 10:44:13 AM »

Why am I ignorant?! That seemed a bit un called for. Oh well. Lets see at E3 for all the goodness to be enveiled. Though I think it will be pretty damagin to Nintendo to enveil it then. Good for Sony and MS though!!!

The Omen · « **Reply #166 on:** May 03, 2004, 06:04:45 AM »

I hate to beat a very dead horse, but I will anyway. The longer this goes, the more inclined I am to believe this is a hoax. The SK website still has the Nintendo logo on it. And I know it's rarely updated, but I believe thats because theres rarely news. 2 games worth of news from SK is all theres really been. When your company breaks off a relationship with another, then you would remove that companies name from your website, quickly.

Secondly, IGN and PGC havent reported a single blurb since the announcement. Had this been real, they would be after Denis like a hunting hound. Even if they received a 'Cannot comment at this time' from Denis, they still have a semi-update. And they would post it.

Third, Nintendo is silent. Even as E3 approaches, they have yet to elaberate on anything that has transpired. Nintendo says they will comment in the coming weeks. Waiting until E3 can only be good news, not a split up. SK says"when the paperworks finalized..." If its already been leaked to the public by SKs own Denis, then why would there still be paperwork left over? SK must be closer to Nintendo now then they were, making that exclusive contract useless, because they are a first party. You don't need a contract -with yourself.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #167 on:** May 03, 2004, 06:15:34 AM »

Indeed...Grabbing on to such a dedicated team is the smart thing to do...

OG_OriginalGamer · « **Reply #168 on:** May 03, 2004, 08:02:47 AM »

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Originally posted by: The Omen
I hate to beat a very dead horse, but I will anyway. The longer this goes, the more inclined I am to believe this is a hoax. The SK website still has the Nintendo logo on it. And I know it's rarely updated, but I believe thats because theres rarely news. 2 games worth of news from SK is all theres really been. When your company breaks off a relationship with another, then you would remove that companies name from your website, quickly.

Secondly, IGN and PGC havent reported a single blurb since the announcement. Had this been real, they would be after Denis like a hunting hound. Even if they received a 'Cannot comment at this time' from Denis, they still have a semi-update. And they would post it.

Third, Nintendo is silent. Even as E3 approaches, they have yet to elaberate on anything that has transpired. Nintendo says they will comment in the coming weeks. Waiting until E3 can only be good news, not a split up. SK says"when the paperworks finalized..." If its already been leaked to the public by SKs own Denis, then why would there still be paperwork left over? SK must be closer to Nintendo now then they were, making that exclusive contract useless, because they are a first party. You don't need a contract -with yourself.

First party, that just might be what it is. Maybe SK has been picked up by Nintendo entirely, Denis may just have to sign the papers to make it official. They would announce it at E3(if true) and what ever game they were working on. Denis would have to sale his portion of SK to Nintendo, theres also certain kinks that would have to be worked out to make it complete.

SgtShiversBen · « **Reply #169 on:** May 03, 2004, 08:51:51 AM »

This is getting WAY out of hand. I'm sure there's something going on, and more than likely all our predictions are true, just goshdang it, why can't they tell us. BAH NDA'S!!! Oh well, I guess we can wait ten days. Oh by the way, does anyone remember WHEN (like if it was at E3) that Rare was announced bought by Microsoft?

P.S. Never Happening (just wanted to see what that does, I said "m3g@t0N")

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #170 on:** May 03, 2004, 09:43:15 AM »

All I remember is that when it was officially announced that Rare was sold, Ninty had a press release out the next day...

Bloodworth · « **Reply #171 on:** May 03, 2004, 09:56:40 AM »

Well this wasn't an announcement; it was a phone call. When they make the announcement, you can look for a press release.

In other words, you can very much say that the news isn't official, but that doesn't mean it's not real.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #172 on:** May 03, 2004, 10:03:38 AM »

Agreed, but I'm willing to take that chance and make myself look like an idiot if it is...

Rich · « **Reply #173 on:** May 03, 2004, 07:40:05 PM »

As am I, the fact that Dennis said something before anything was final baffles me. Personally I believe that SK is now a first party and in development with Eternal Darkness2 but thats just me. One of the other thing that got to me was that billy(at GI Online) said that SK would announce an exclusive for Nintendo. The last thing is that completely odd coincidence that not 1 but 2 websites reported the news at E3. Come On, thats just creepy.

Mannypon · « **Reply #174 on:** May 04, 2004, 04:16:54 PM »

thats it, this is total bull. No matter what the web masters say , I dont believe it. Dennis was always real close to nintendo to begin with. If he was so close to nintendo, why would he go out and leak info of this matter (one that can only do harm to nintendo's damaged image what which all the 3rd parties leaving) before anything was finalized. Also, waiting to annouce it officially in the weeks to come (E3) makes absolutely no sence in nintendo's part. Nintendo as well as all the other companies are looking to make a huge impact come E3, making an announcement of one of your best 2nd parties leaving is not goin to help make the splash nintendo would like. This all has to be a hoax.

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