Author Topic: Emergence of Social Classes (Read 17510 times)

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #25 on:** February 22, 2004, 05:18:49 AM »

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Originally posted by: Jale
3. Girls are more willing to take their clothes off

*sigh*

*shakes head*

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #26 on:** February 22, 2004, 05:55:49 AM »

I live fairly close to a catholic school and it forces the boys to wear, white shirts and ties and the girls wear white shirts and plaid skirts. The thing I find funny is that most of the girls I see coming and going have hiked the skirts up to staggering proportions, making a total mockery of the whole dress code thing in the first place.
I know if I had a 15 year old daughter, there would be no way in hell she would leave the house in a cheek showing mini skirt.

ThePerm · « **Reply #27 on:** February 22, 2004, 07:25:33 AM »

hey cubedcanuck i made an avatar for yuou and am hosting it.

http://www.tetrametrics.com/theperm/Avatars/thecubedcanuck.gif

also what mouseclicker wouyld look like in a uniform

http://theperm.tetrametrics.com/mouseschool.jpg

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #28 on:** February 22, 2004, 10:27:07 AM »

LOL! That's great! ^_^

So who's up for having MC wear a uniform? I know I am!

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #29 on:** February 22, 2004, 10:39:52 AM »

You people are sick.

Especially you, Bill.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #30 on:** February 22, 2004, 10:42:57 AM »

Seriously, MC, not bad at all.

Ya damn hippie.

Jale · « **Reply #31 on:** February 22, 2004, 11:32:24 AM »

I hate my uniform. We have to wear ties and blazers. There are so many rules! You have your shirt untucked, you get told off. You have your tie loose, you get told off. You have your top button undone, you get told off. If a girl wears jewelry, she gets told off. If a girl's skirt is too short, she gets told off. If a girl's shoes are too tall, she gets told off. If a girl wears any makeup at all she gets told off. There are even some hairstyles that are banned. No corn rows, no braids, boys can't have hair past the collar.

In fact the only advantage is that if it gets wet the shirt gets see through and this is good when the girls are around

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #32 on:** February 22, 2004, 11:51:05 AM »

Mouse, the reason why every school in Australia has uniforms is cause it's a hike back to the country's British heritage. Even the state schools have uniforms, but they aren't as enforced as catholic and private schools.

Uniforms don't take away your sense of identity and make you a faceless, mindless zombie controlled by the headless dictator that is the Principal, contrary to what you and a certain Simpsons episode might make you think

There may be heaps of rules that must be followed when it comes to uniforms, but if you lived here, you wouldn't think uniforms were that bad either. And everyone here would agree that it takes away one more life-threatening decision from your mornings.
I dunno. I like our school system much better that the US system. MUCH more.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #33 on:** February 22, 2004, 01:01:48 PM »

Termin8, it's the principle of the matter. How many times do I have to say that to get though to you people?

No, a school having uniforms is not going to turn everyone, or really anyone, into a faceless zombie. It's the pretentiousness of the school to think that forcing everyone to look the same will solve any problem whatsoever that pisses me off- it's the motives behind the act combined with the act that I detest so much, not just the act itself.

The Omen · « **Reply #34 on:** February 22, 2004, 01:16:49 PM »

Well maybe when 'uniformed' schools start getting shot up like Vietnam, like the public schools in this country, many of these things will change. Unfortunately the statistics back those in charge. Is it because of uniforms? Most likely not, in my opinion, but they see it that way, and with public schools becoming more like shooting galleries, uniformed schools see little reason to change. I don't actually agree with them, but i can't prove it doesn't work either. When you get to working for a living, there are dress codes, not as strict, but they're there nonetheless. Unless you go into any art-type profession, like i am. Every part of society that can be controlled, will be. You might as well get used to it.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #35 on:** February 22, 2004, 01:22:22 PM »

I've never been one to be needlessly submissive, Omen, and I see no reason to change now. As for school shootings, just as you can't prove school uniforms don't stop them you can't prove lack of uniforms encourage them, meaning uniforms should never have been introduced at all, going by your logic.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #36 on:** February 22, 2004, 01:43:48 PM »

Stop being such a rebel, MC...

ib2kool4u912 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 22, 2004, 01:58:51 PM »

I go to a Catholic school and i have to wear a uniform(shirt, tie, sweater vest thing etc.) The good thing about it is, like many people have said, not having to pick what to wear in the morning. The only bad thing i think is that its just not as comfortable as throwing on a t-shirt and jeans. I honsestly could care less if "it takes away a form of self expression."

Shift Key · « **Reply #38 on:** February 22, 2004, 02:45:44 PM »

I really think we've read too much into a t-shirt slogan.

*puts on "CHILL" shirt*

ThePerm · « **Reply #39 on:** February 22, 2004, 02:54:54 PM »

hmmm, the pretentiousness of school....i was always a nice kid in high school, i always listened to my teachers and tried very hard...but there were social classes in my school and they were favoritized...so if i wasnt in the elite click of the school my grades wouldnt be good.

Anyways im in college now and all they want is money. The rules are relaxed and its alot nicer...there is alot of BS in High School

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #40 on:** February 22, 2004, 03:58:35 PM »

Perm: Even now I don't really belong to any social class- I guess you could say I'm a gamer, but msot nongamers don't even know what that means. Regardless, I was ranked 16th in my class of 565 students and had a 4.1 gpa last semester.

The Omen · « **Reply #41 on:** February 23, 2004, 01:35:58 AM »

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I've never been one to be needlessly submissive, Omen, and I see no reason to change now. As for school shootings, just as you can't prove school uniforms don't stop them you can't prove lack of uniforms encourage them, meaning uniforms should never have been introduced at all, going by your logic.

I wasn't trying to say uniforms cause them, or dont cause them, i was saying those in charge seem to use that logic. Thus, tis not my logic, just me relaying what heads of education say.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #42 on:** February 23, 2004, 02:22:29 AM »

Omen, I understand what the heads of education think- I think they're wrong, hence my argument here.

In any case, we have gotten quite off base with the discussion.

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #43 on:** February 23, 2004, 02:28:18 AM »

Perm

Thanks a bunch, very cool.

manunited4eva22 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 23, 2004, 04:28:42 PM »

I'm a good kid, I just got OSS for knowing too many console commands. heh.

On the whole school uniform crap, it doesn't really make much of a difference to me, it's just funny for teachers to oggle a STFU shirt and never know what it means.

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #45 on:** February 24, 2004, 02:35:34 AM »

I don't know what the principals in YOUR schools in the US seem to think about uniforms, but it is most definitely not about using uniforms to 'control' kids.
We are told to wear our uniforms to show that we are proud of our school and it's heritage.
You know how you see English/Scottish/Irish lads getting together in one huge group at a rugby match and in school and chanting warcries?
I loved doing all that at school. It boosted school spirit, and you were all mates. All part of our heritage.
It's more wth private schools though, and our uniforms are more formal than say just simple catholc schools and public schools.

While it can get sickening, having to wear your uniform 'with pride' and having to practise the warcries, but we all knew it was what bonded us all together.

Anyway, I can't change the US school system, not the New South Wales system either. Whether uniforms breed dictatorship in some, or where casual clothes all the time encourages rebellionism and further, more obvious split in social class is totally up to whoever decides what they have to decide about these things. And I am totally fine with that.

Uglydot · « **Reply #46 on:** February 24, 2004, 09:26:10 AM »

At my school, which is located in western New York, school spirit is very lackin in school,but whenever there is a bunch of us together at a show or something, we stick together. It may be just because we are a small school that we do this, but it is interesting. I have never been to a show were a kid from my school didn't get in a fight, and he always has someone behind him. Once we were at a show and someone took a cheap shot at me in a pit and I got a concussion. Someone that I don't really get along with at all in school started hitting him in the face. I live in a bit of an angry area so this stuff is common, but an example of school spirit, sorta.

ThePerm · « **Reply #47 on:** February 24, 2004, 12:36:17 PM »

termin8....if Americans play a sport against each other they wear a uniform.....but othyerwise no uniform..we have school color days every once in a while..or dress down the other school....i never got into that sort of thing...i did like crazy hair day though..dyed my hair orange that day. I would say the simple reason American schools don't have uniforms standard is because in the olden days the people were too poor to afford them...it just stayed that way. We had stricter dress codes till the 60s as well.

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #48 on:** February 24, 2004, 01:42:38 PM »

"i did like crazy hair day though"

It looks like it stuck

PS, thanks again for the avatar

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #49 on:** February 24, 2004, 04:30:52 PM »

Not being able to reply to stuff drives me crazy. But now I'm capable (didn't have password before, at another place on vacation).

Social classes. For me, the distinction has actually become less clear over the years. In eighth grade, the seperation between certain groups was very well defined, but now, in grade 12, it's less clear. I mean, I can definitely point out specific groups; there are some people at my school that I never talk to at all. Not to say that we're all happy dandy here, one big grand spankin' family, we're just more mature and. . . unified now than ever before. My particular class seems special in that way, though. Something about my year always has.
I have a very tight knit group of friends, especially with three particular guys. We've always been really good friends, and maintain that friendship very much so, but we've expanded to other groups as well. I get along with almost anyone that gets to know me, that's in any of my classes, or that I spend some sort of time with. The four of us, and the group around us, will always be great friends, but we also mix very well with other groups.
More later, perhaps, if some thought strikes me.

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Author Topic: Emergence of Social Classes (Read 17510 times)