Author Topic: introduction and a few intresting rumors (Read 42912 times)

PIAC · « **Reply #25 on:** November 20, 2003, 08:39:16 PM »

mmm nintendo fresh waffles, with wee images of mario or shigeru or what ever burnt into the top of the waffle

that ... is the greatest idea i have ever heard!

SLIVER · « **Reply #26 on:** November 21, 2003, 10:16:11 AM »

So far i haven't found any rumors with good sources, but i did find some intresting ones. I won't post them because I don't want to get in trouble.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #27 on:** November 21, 2003, 10:34:58 AM »

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But if that extra slot under the gamecube isn't for a hard drive then what the hell is it for?

Nothing... yet. Japanese companies aren't like American companies in that they're not just thinking about the present, they're thinking about the future as well. That's why you see mysterious expansion slots on a lot of Japanese consoles, because they want to leave their options open should they decide to release an expansion. Often times the expansion slot is never even used, sometimes it is. Nintendo may never release something for that expansion slot- they just included it in case they did want to.

HereticPB · « **Reply #28 on:** November 21, 2003, 10:46:17 AM »

Rumors eh?

Mario 128
Real World Zelda
Too Human
Madden 06

N5 will be backwards compatible and use the GC controllers or past controllers. N5 will use a small disc again but with double, triple the space.
Another interesting rumor would be N5 won't go online

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #29 on:** November 21, 2003, 10:48:24 AM »

N5 will make COFFEE in association with STARBUCKS.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 21, 2003, 11:32:27 AM »

Well these ones arent rumors , there more closer to facts...

Too Human is a Launch for the N5
Memory blocks will be much larger , Nintendo admit they , made a mistake with the small sized memory blocks.

Zelda WILL go back to its routes ( realistic ) on the GCN2

Mario 128 will be pushed back onto the N5

Pilotwings - N5

Wireless controls

Online gaming ( dont expect anything heavy though )

MUCH bigger 3rd party support

RPGs gallore

More EXCLUSIVES

manunited4eva22 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 21, 2003, 11:34:35 AM »

Here is a rumor, guys with no life and no technical proof come up with random rumors and place them in forums under the prerequisite that they saw it in another forum/"they have connections in the industry"

Give me a break. Show some kind of feasible proof, and then create a thread that makes any sense.

A hard drive add on for gamecube may honestly be one of the dumber ideas. Who the hell is going to buy it? Why would you want to?

Pale · « **Reply #32 on:** November 21, 2003, 11:53:19 AM »

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Originally posted by: akdaman1
Well these ones arent rumors , there more closer to facts...
Zelda WILL go back to its routes ( realistic ) on the GCN2

Not to sound like an ass hole, but how is zelda's "routes" realistic? Damn, that NES must have been able to push quite a few more polygons than i thought.

Zelda was NEVER realistic. The 64 incarnations of Zelda saw chibi style character design. NOT REALISTIC! The god damn internet makes everyone think we need a realistic zelda. Hell, even the spaceworld demo wasn't really that realistic. I think Link looked like a freaking pansy in that anyway. Ya know how upset I would be if they started to make Link look like the main character from a new Final Fantasy game? MIGHTY UPSET!

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #33 on:** November 21, 2003, 11:57:22 AM »

This next piece didn't come from some other forum whatsoever!

- N5 will make COFFEE. Cream included.

END OF STORY.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #34 on:** November 21, 2003, 11:57:24 AM »

I am sick and tired of this "Zelda was never realistic" bullcrap- Zelda was never a cartoon, either! The fact is, Zelda's roots were in its gameplay, and it has never left those roots. No matter WHAT the appearance of a Zelda game may be, it's still the classic Zelda we've all known and loved for almost 20 years. Zelda does not HAVE a visual style- it constantly changes from game to game. Sometimes it may return to an older style, sometimes it may create a new one, but Zelda does NOT have any visual roots, and never WILL have any visual roots. Zelda is whatever Miyamoto wants it to be- enough with the "it's not supposed to be realistic!!" or the "it's not supposed to be cartoony!!" I thought such devout Zelda fans would have figured this out by now. Give it a rest!

Pale · « **Reply #35 on:** November 21, 2003, 12:26:47 PM »

I'm gonna have to disagree with that. I think zelda sure as hell has always been cartoony.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #36 on:** November 21, 2003, 12:40:15 PM »

The original Zelda was a collection of pixels that slightly resembled people and monsters if you squinted really hard- they were no more in a position to make it cartoony than realistic. You'd have to be blind to think the original LoZ, or even LttP, resemble Wind Waker- they're 3 VERY different styles.

Besides, REGARDLESS of whether the original game was cartoony, that does NOT mean every other game in the series must be- I thought we wanted something different, not the same old same. Like I said, the ONLY roots Zelda has is its unique style of gameplay, and in that sense Zelda has never left. Zelda is being constantly reinvented by Miyamoto to reflect something different each and every time. You're only being hypocritical to criticize those who want a realistic Zelda by saying it'd be a rehash, then claiming Zelda needs to return to its "roots" and be cartoony. Zelda is a very versatile series, and having one definitive style for it only restricts its diversity. You may have your preferred visual style for the game, but there is no ONE style. Get over it.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #37 on:** November 21, 2003, 12:50:57 PM »

"I think zelda sure as hell has always been cartoony."

I would say lighthearted but Zelda didn't become cartoony until Wind Waker. Ocarina of Time isn't realistic looking. It's not a cartoon either. In my opinion it's a dead on 3D realization of the Zelda world from the NES and SNES games. For 99% of Zelda fans Ocarina of Time's graphic style was exactly what they imagined. When screenshots were first shown no one said "that's not what Zelda's supposed to be like! They f*cked it up!"

However people did say that the first time they saw Wind Waker. Hell practically everyone did. Now most people have come to accept and even enjoy that style but it isn't what Zelda was always supposed to be. If so NO ONE would have complained or would be complaining now. We all would have said "DAMN! Now THAT'S how you do Zelda!" Many people initially backlashed against that style while no one backlashed against the Ocarina style.

If Zelda was always meant to look like Wind Waker then why is there such a huge difference between the graphics in A Link to the Past and The Four Swords? If Wind Waker was a perfect realization of the 2D Zelda games in 2D there would be no difference but there is. Plus one of the reasons supposedly for the cartoon style was for Link's facial expressions. Link just having a personality PERIOD is a huge change for the series so why would a style designed with that in mind match the original games? Link certainly never f*cking danced after beating a dungeon in the other games.

Wind Waker is a departure from the style of the other games. Regardless of how much you may like it it's different.

Anyway getting back on topic I think because of the huge backlash against Wind Waker and the fact that Ocarina of Time sold way better Nintendo will probably go back to a more Ocarina-like style. Regardless of which style supposedly fits better the game will sell better if it's not a cartoon.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #38 on:** November 21, 2003, 12:55:48 PM »

I'd like to see what Nintendo could do with the style shown at Spaceworld 2K- I've always really liked the demo, and have wanted to see what a Zelda game in that style would be like.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #39 on:** November 21, 2003, 01:04:53 PM »

I imagine Nintendo isn't capable of using the Spaceworld style. It's a little too detailed and too dark for the type of game EAD makes. I figure they tried to go with that style, couldn't get it to work, and then went for an exact opposite style because they were more comfortable with it and cel-shading would take less time to work with (particularly since they would already have wasted time trying to use another style and then switching).

Or maybe they've been working on that game all this time but it's so ambitious that they've delayed it for the N5 and made Wind Waker to fill in the gap.

All of this is just pure speculation but that's staying on topic with the thread so it's okay.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #40 on:** November 21, 2003, 01:08:33 PM »

You saw a 30 second clip- I hardly think you could judge whether or not it would be dark.

In any case, Majora's Mask was a very dark game in of itself, with those highlights of lightheartedness.

But it was a demo that was thrown together in less than a week, and is, in my opinion, one of the best looking and most impressive demonstrations of videogames graphics I've ever seen. Besides, I thought Wind Waker was close to the same level of quality, if not higher. I think if Nintendo put some time and effort into it, they could make a game that looked as good as the demo.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #41 on:** November 21, 2003, 04:31:32 PM »

What I meant was when I said back to its route was , graphical style , OOT was as realistic as you can get , I mean I love the WW graphics , but...would have prefered OOTs style of gphx , c'mon , you guys really know how to throw a little comment out of propeotion ...

The reason I think EAD went with WW style was that the 'realistic' route would have been difficult to make , Having large worlds etc..would have been difficult ...

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #42 on:** November 21, 2003, 04:33:29 PM »

First off, Ocarina of Time wasn't realistic- it and Majora's Mask are the two Zelda games that most resemble reality, but they're not realistic. Second, Wind Waker's world was HUGE, easily one of the biggest open areas in a videogame I've ever played.

The Omen · « **Reply #43 on:** November 21, 2003, 06:34:23 PM »

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Give me a break. Show some kind of feasible proof, and then create a thread that makes any sense.

Well, if he had proof, would it be a rumor? He did say rumors, did he not?

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Second, Wind Waker's world was HUGE, easily one of the biggest open areas in a videogame I've ever played.

It is a huge area, but often nothing tangible transpires, its just traveling over open sea. And while i thought it was cool, there was little to do except open treasure chests that contained rupies I didnt need. I'd much rather have Hyrule just as big an open space as WW, but with some exploring intertwined. And when i say exploring, i mean looking for something to help the quest, not useless items.

As for cartoony versus realistic, i think its neither until WW. The first Zelda could hardly be called cartoony. In fact, none of them are except WW, which does a tremendous job of it. And when , while playing OoT, did you find yourself saying, this world looks so real? Never. Because it doesnt look like the real world. So stop saying 'realistic', its way off base.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #44 on:** November 22, 2003, 08:07:53 AM »

I agree half with what the OMen said but of course OOT was not realistic , no 64 game was , I f it were a polygon Zelda , then I say it would be close to realistic , ( you know what I mean )

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #45 on:** November 22, 2003, 08:51:29 AM »

REgardless of the graphical limits the N64 had, OoT was not realistic- yes, it resembled reality more than any other game in the series, but it was not realistic. Look at King Zora, or Ganondorf, the enemy and character design, etc, etc. The SW2K demo would have led to a realistic visual style, one that would have been different than OoT's.

Cap · « **Reply #46 on:** November 22, 2003, 08:58:51 AM »

regarding the world in the wind waker being huge, while it is bigger then the world of orcania of time it doesnt really feel like it. only after going back and playing orcania of time again did i realize how much that boat really sucked. sure the world was huge, but all you did was point your boat in the direction you wanted to go and wait five minutes until you get to a small island that be ran end to end in 3 seconds. its still a great game, but i hope the sequal doesnt use the boat to the same extent and has some bigger land masses.

Mario · « **Reply #47 on:** November 22, 2003, 12:14:37 PM »

Back to rumors.

Early (very early) next month, Nintendo will show off some new games, one of them will be a huge surprise and will come out before the end of the year in all territories.

New Yoshi and Kirby games to be revealed in the near future.

ghostVi · « **Reply #48 on:** November 23, 2003, 05:06:39 AM »

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Originally posted by: SLIVER
So far i haven't found any rumors with good sources, but i did find some intresting ones. I won't post them because I don't want to get in trouble.

Well /me is interested in hearing rumours... IMO as long as everyone is aware it is one (a rumour) there should be no trouble in posting them...

manunited4eva22 · « **Reply #49 on:** November 23, 2003, 05:59:32 AM »

Well usually rumors have some kind of source, other than 'another forum' and usually have some reason of happening if they are anything more than bs. I really am at whit's end why nintendo wants to put in a bulky hard drive into their console. I really don't know what they think they will get out of it.

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Author Topic: introduction and a few intresting rumors (Read 42912 times)