Author Topic: NOAus rules (Read 23259 times)

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #50 on:** November 04, 2003, 03:22:01 AM »

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Hey whats wrong woth that!!! What are you all talking about anyway...about the lack of advertising...in the last month i have seen about 50-60 gamecubel commercials. They are on channel 10 all the time..."Time to update your gaming, Gamecube now only 199.95". In one day i have seen it 10 times. Although they dont show enough of thier games they are still getting the word out about the pricedrop.

We didnt get SoA...but neither did half the world..whats your point..and dont go bringing up games from 10 years ago because i am talking about how Nintendo Of Australia have pulled there socks up this year.

What do you watch? Seriously (no pun intended

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I watch Australian Idol a couple of times, I watch the News, Everybody Loves Raymond, BEcker, The SImpsons, and Indiana Jones, and NO, there are NO Nintendo ads I have seen.
50-60 commericials? You've seen more GC ads then I've seen NINTENDO ads since the N64 launch. No kidding.

If you are saying that Nintendo does heaps of advertising, then you are dead wrong.
Look in the catelogues for Target, Big W, Kmart, David Jones (Myer if you live in Melbourne), Grace Bros Harvey Norman and Dick Smith, and even EB.
They have ONE ad for GC, or none at all.
That is because the heads of those stores think that the GC is a lost cause. This in turn creates NO awareness for the GC at all, and therefore the heads of those stores think the machine is EVEN MORE un-profitable, so they REMOVE stock altogether. It is a HORIBBLE paradoxial loop - one that, unfortunately, Nintendo got themselves into. If they DO have 10 million for advertising, then they are not showing it.
Because the price-drop ad is not for a game, it doesn't have a rating, and therefore doesn't need to be restricted to certain times of the day. It SHOULD therefore be shown at ALL times of the day.

If indeed you ARE seeing the GC ad, tell me when it's on that'll give you a defintion of the type of audience (or lack thereof) that watches the show(s).

And Adakman, bringing up the names of games liek Skies, Burnout 2, or those from '10 years ago', IS important because it shows you how much NIntendo of Australia is doing to get games to come over here. IF they created an awareness for the game IN THE FIRST PLACE, then those games could be still have been on shelves today.
Nintendo's worse thing here is their lack of advertising. They have ads they can use from the US, but they don't use them. They have 10 millions, but they don't seem to be using it.
Their other problem is that they seem to only focus on Nintendo-exclusive, but only Nintendo-MADE games, like WW or MP. I've yet to see an ad for VJ, F-Zero, or SC2's GC-exclusive Link because there is either not one made or it is HARDLY shown.

NIntendo of Australia needs to get off their asses.
They have said that they regret not doing enough. So they are apologizing, but it is falling on DEAF EARS unless they actually DOING SOMETHING. They know their weakness and problem, so DO SOMETHING.

THAT is what I am saying, Adakman.
Pulling their socks up is not good enough until they start running.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #51 on:** November 04, 2003, 08:36:00 AM »

True we got a half-assed port of AC..and e-readers havent been localised but really we are now getting alot of games on par or be4 the USA. The reason Mario Golf was delayed was most likley because these mext 3 months are pacled full...They COULD release it here but its most likley that they are trying to fill in gaps for next year..smart if you ask me..

The Omen · « **Reply #52 on:** November 04, 2003, 10:54:46 AM »

I received my Chronotrigger on November 1st.......6 years ago!!!!

Mario · « **Reply #53 on:** November 04, 2003, 12:59:02 PM »

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They COULD release it here but its most likley that they are trying to fill in gaps for next year..smart if you ask me..

Very stupid if you ask me, i want Mario Golf now, not next year. Next year i will be buying next years games, everyone will be over Mario Golf by then, its so last year dude. I would buy Mario Golf if it was released now.

cml · « **Reply #54 on:** November 04, 2003, 12:59:34 PM »

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There is absolutely no excuse for such delays. None.

cml, think about what a big job it is porting games to Europe.

First, you have to translate the game into 5 different languages. I am personally well accustomed to waiting 6 months for games to be translated to English when coming from Japan. But with PAL, you also have to modify the game so it runs properly on a TV with a bit higher of resolution and a lower refresh rate. If you think that doing all that is easy, then you need your head examined.

I don't really need to think about what a big job it is, because I know full well what is required to create a PAL SKU of a game. Assuming you have an English version of the game, translating that game into 5 other ASCII languages really shouldn't be that much of an issue. Some languages, German in particular, can make things difficult because of long strings forcing you to redesign text placement in some instances, but that issue can generally be dealt with a minimal amount of fuss.

As far as the graphic differences go, modifying a game to run at a slightly different resolution and a lower refresh rate is relatively painless, assuming of course you took such considerations into account more than 2 weeks before you are due to deliver the gold master.

Like I said, even though I despise it I can handle 1 months wait for a PAL version, but there is absolutely no excuse for the 6+ month delays that are so often the norm.

Chris.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #55 on:** November 04, 2003, 02:31:47 PM »

The way I see it, if I can live with a 6 month delay for games to get translated into English from Japanese, you can wait 6 months to wait for your games to get translated into German, French, Italian, Spanish, or whatever else the PAL languages use.

Mario · « **Reply #56 on:** November 04, 2003, 02:36:00 PM »

But then its not really 6 months is it, its 12 months.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #57 on:** November 04, 2003, 02:41:08 PM »

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[Very stupid if you ask me, i want Mario Golf now, not next year. Next year i will be buying next years games, everyone will be over Mario Golf by then, its so last year dude. I would buy Mario Golf if it was released now.

I have no idea if you were being sarcastic or not, but that quote is very childish...Games are not "fads"...If you truely want the game, then you'll still get it a half-year from now...

Mario · « **Reply #58 on:** November 04, 2003, 02:46:28 PM »

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[Very stupid if you ask me, i want Mario Golf now, not next year. Next year i will be buying next years games, everyone will be over Mario Golf by then, its so last year dude. I would buy Mario Golf if it was released now.
I have no idea if you were being sarcastic or not, but that quote is very childish...Games are not "fads"...If you truely want the game, then you'll still get it a half-year from now...

In a half-year from now i would rather use my money to buy Four Swords. I have nothing to buy at this very moment, and if Mario Golf were out i would buy that.

cml · « **Reply #59 on:** November 04, 2003, 02:46:29 PM »

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The way I see it, if I can live with a 6 month delay for games to get translated into English from Japanese, you can wait 6 months to wait for your games to get translated into German, French, Italian, Spanish, or whatever else the PAL languages use.

If you are happy with 6 months delays, you are a much more patient gamer than I. That said, in most cases it doesn't really affect me a great deal because I just import the titles that interest me when they release in the US, usually at a cheaper price than what I pay in Australia, and by the time they do end up releasing over here I have long since finished them.

I am simply saying that I personally find the current delays to be inexcusable and unacceptable, and that minor technical issues and translating text are not the cause of such delays.

Such delays are generally the result of slackness on the publisher's side getting the developer the translated assets and / or a publisher delaying a title to fill gaps in it's release schedule (eg, Mario Golf).

Chris.

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #60 on:** November 04, 2003, 03:20:44 PM »

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True we got a half-assed port of AC..and e-readers havent been localised but really we are now getting alot of games on par or be4 the USA. The reason Mario Golf was delayed was most likley because these mext 3 months are pacled full...They COULD release it here but its most likley that they are trying to fill in gaps for next year..smart if you ask me..

Yeah, we're getting quite a few games over the next few months. But what, two will be from Nintendo themselves? Mario Kart and Kirby's Air Ride. If Nintendo think Mario Kart will keep consumers happy for three months, they're going to get a nasty shock.

If there's no reason for a game to be delayed, why delay the bloody thing?
As for Kirby on GBA.. Well, there's another game that seriously boggles the mind. It features VERY LITTLE TEXT. There is no major plot. HOW HARD COULD IT BE TO TRANSLATE "PRESS START" FOR THE EUROPEAN RELEASE? ;___;
Hell, they could of just released the US version in Australia. NO REGION SETTINGS. BUT LETS NOT DO THAT.

Then again, it's a remake of Kirby's Adventure on NES, and Nintendo never released that in PAL territories. MAYBE WE SHOULD NEVER LET THEM PLAY IT. WE LIKE FORCING PEOPLE TO IMPORT STUFF OR DOWNLOAD THE ROMS. WOO.

Mario · « **Reply #61 on:** November 04, 2003, 03:25:52 PM »

Kirby Air Ride should be released here next year Infernal.

Mario Kart and 1080 Avalance are the two big games for the remainder of the year here, and we get them both first (not 100% sure we're getting 1080 first though).

cml · « **Reply #62 on:** November 04, 2003, 04:22:59 PM »

Mario, do you know what dates we get 1080 and Mario Kart? What about the Broadband adaptor? Also, any idea if we get the Mario Kart bonus disc that the US version comes with?

Cheers for any info,

Chris.

Mario · « **Reply #63 on:** November 04, 2003, 04:37:33 PM »

Mario Kart and the Broadband Adapter both come out on November 14. 1080 is currently slated for November 28 i think, although it hasnt been confirmed.

No Mario Kart bonus disk for Australia, we get the option to buy a GC steering wheel for only $10 instead. Which sucks. :\

We might still get something else with it, but i doubt it.

cml · « **Reply #64 on:** November 04, 2003, 06:25:37 PM »

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No Mario Kart bonus disk for Australia, we get the option to buy a GC steering wheel for only $10 instead. Which sucks. :\

Really? Is that through a special retailer, or is it the standard offer? That sounds almost too good to be true!!

Do you have a link where I can get more info? As usual, the nintendo.com.au is void of anything useful.

Chris.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #65 on:** November 04, 2003, 06:36:44 PM »

Yes its true we get the steering wheel ....although its only from EB...I got mine but if I were you HURRY!!! ITS LIMITED.

Mario · « **Reply #66 on:** November 04, 2003, 06:44:24 PM »

Sorry i dont have a link, just ask someone at Electronics Boutique about it, thats how i found out.

cml · « **Reply #67 on:** November 04, 2003, 06:55:16 PM »

Cool thanks for that info. I just rang up my local EB but they are currently out of Steering Wheels unfortunately. I guess I will have to try some of the stores further out.

Are you sure you haven't seen a similar deal offered at other stores?

Chris.

Mario · « **Reply #68 on:** November 04, 2003, 06:56:44 PM »

Well other stores might have the same deal but i havent asked or checked so im not really sure.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #69 on:** November 04, 2003, 09:47:11 PM »

No its only at EB. sorry ...

cml · « **Reply #70 on:** November 05, 2003, 06:50:50 PM »

I managed to track one down at the City store, and I just got back from collecting it (along with Rebel Strike). Lucky I went over lunch rather than waiting until the weekend, because I got the last one, and the guy in the line behind me was also after one but missed out.

Thanks again for the heads up Mario.

Chris.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #71 on:** November 05, 2003, 08:39:21 PM »

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I managed to track one down at the City store, and I just got back from collecting it (along with Rebel Strike). Lucky I went over lunch rather than waiting until the weekend, because I got the last one, and the guy in the line behind me was also after one but missed out.

Thanks again for the heads up Mario.

Chris.

and akdaman1?

cml · « **Reply #72 on:** November 05, 2003, 08:44:46 PM »

Yes indeed. You have both apologies and my thanks.

Chris.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #73 on:** November 05, 2003, 08:56:48 PM »

Thank you and your welcome...( walks away with tear in eye )

cml · « **Reply #74 on:** November 09, 2003, 09:18:57 PM »

I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, and I thought some may be interested to hear that it seems Nintendo Australia are subsidising the publishers of some big key 3rd party titles. Both True Crime and THUG will retail for $69.99 when they release, and Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu will go for just $49.99.

Chris.

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