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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2003, 04:56:14 PM »
Some of you Aussies are so touchy with some things...
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2003, 05:00:30 PM »
Ninja, you need to start channelizing your anger in the form of violence- it's much more effective.
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2003, 05:04:58 PM »
Mouse Clicker, if I did that, someone would die.  I am right positive of it.  Text based venting is a much more effective way to handle things for me.
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2003, 05:06:08 PM »
Fine, fine, suit yourself.

BTW, I'm kidding.
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2003, 05:59:25 PM »
PIAC: A version of FF III was released here in New Zealand for PSX, so it was almsot definatley released there. BTW, do any of you guys know if NONZ gets it's releases in the same shipment as NOAu?
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« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2003, 06:36:47 PM »
i thought they still played 64's in NZ
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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2003, 07:07:42 PM »
yeah we got the playstation version, ie FF origins, but that doesn't make up for it it's not just skies, pso isn't available to play online, viewtiful joe got a pitifully small release, we STILL don't have mario golf, all problems for THIS generation and very valid complaints about nintendo.au, yes getting mario kart before anyone else will be great, i'm pretty damn stoked actually, but it's not enough, if they continue this trend, i'll be alot happier. i can't really explain it any clearer, if you want to bitch at me saying stuff so be it, i dgaf really, my complaints are still valid.

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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2003, 07:08:11 PM »
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I will only start saying Nintendo rocks when I see ads for all their fun games, like Mario, on during the DAY and in the morning, instead of at 1am at night when only losers waiting for free pornos on SBS are awake.

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Nintendo had better FORCE the tv broadcasters to air their commercials, or that 10 million dollars was for nothing. The Who are You ad IS really cool, and they SHOULD air it here.


Why would / should Nintendo advertise during the day? They should advertise during the periods of the day when their target market are actually watching TV. I.e., during prime time. They have gotten a bit better recently, but that is not saying much.

Also, Nintendo don't need to FORCE anyone to air their commercials. All they have to do is pay the broadcaster and they will air it.

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« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2003, 07:15:02 PM »
There's a reason for Mario Golf not being out: Too many releases as it is this winter(errr...summer for you Aussies )
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« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2003, 07:19:19 PM »
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JEEEZUS CHRIST...happy ..they arent ruling...they are improving...JEEZ..I posted on how they are improving and how we are getting nintendos biggest games be4 the USA..Jeeez stop complaining about SOA . half the bloddy world didnt get it...even NOA got limited shipments of it...I am not comparing them to NOA but to NOE...we get animal crossing - they dont. We got most games be4 them..


If you want to blame someone for not getting sufficient copies of SOA, blame Infograms / Atari. It is they who are responsible for publishing Sega's product in Australia, not Nintendo.


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« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2003, 07:42:05 PM »
I wasn't implying that Aussie's release schedule is up to date or anything, just wondering if you guys got that version of FF over there. NZ's releases are suprising close to Aussies, relitive to the number of consumers we have. We have just got the first shipment of Veiwtiful Joe, but it will probobly sell out in Auckland and Wellington before it reaches anywhere else.
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« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2003, 07:46:59 PM »
CML i aint comp[laining about SOA ...its PIAC...i was telling him to stop complaining. Why on earth would anyone want so many games this summer anyway...Mario Golf could have easily come out here but just like BILL said...christmas is way too packed for us. I mean c'mon I am buying two games next month..and still feel bad cause i want more...i still need to get animal crossing , F0 , PoP , SSX3 , and about a million other games.  
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« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2003, 08:04:41 PM »
i can afford to buy it, i can afford to get a new game every week, i don't want nintendo dictating to me when i can get my games, it should have been released near when the US version was released, if i remember correctly we were suffering a dry spell of games.

i'm sure nintendo could influence atari/sega ozesoft/gamenation (heh, thats a contradiction in terms) to release more games, something needs to be done.

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« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2003, 12:01:22 AM »

i'm sure nintendo could influence atari/sega ozesoft/gamenation (heh, thats a contradiction in terms) to release more games, something needs to be done.




And thats my point ..things are being done..if you compare the american and australian releaase dates..you will find that all games come within a month of eachother...almost.
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« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2003, 12:35:35 AM »
..Except if you're European in which it's within 6 to 12 months

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« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2003, 10:19:42 AM »
Thats another good point plugabugz - Europe is now the worst place to live if youra die hard nintendo fan...Australia now gets nearly every game be4 Europe.
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« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2003, 05:23:29 PM »
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Thats another good point plugabugz - Europe is now the worst place to live if youra die hard nintendo fan...Australia now gets nearly every game be4 Europe.



For whatever reason, Nintendo has always treated PAL territories like it is doing us this huge favour by even releasing it's products in such territories. Europe has certainly got it worse that in Australia. Obvious examples include the earlier release of Pokemon Ruby & Sapphire and the fact that we have actually got Animal Crossing.

But both Sony and Microsoft have proven that not treating PAL gamers like they are 3rd world citizens is well worth the effort. Nintendo had better not make this mistake again with the launch of the next console.

Personally I hate waiting even a month as a game is localised for the European market, but I can handle that. What I cannot stand is the 6+ month delays Nintendo are famous for. There is absolutely no excuse for such delays. None.


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« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2003, 06:24:39 PM »
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There is absolutely no excuse for such delays. None.


cml, think about what a big job it is porting games to Europe.

First, you have to translate the game into 5 different languages.  I am personally well accustomed to waiting 6 months for games to be translated to English when coming from Japan.  But with PAL, you also have to modify the game so it runs properly on a TV with a bit higher of resolution and a lower refresh rate.  If you think that doing all that is easy, then you need your head examined.
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« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2003, 06:43:37 PM »
Thats what i mean..there is no longer those 6 month delays..when Mario Kart was first announced for the 17th of November ( Maerica ) , I thought that we wont get these games until at least May next year...those 6 month waits almost never happen anymore...( please dont bring up AC )
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« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2003, 08:13:41 PM »
can i bring up mario golf then? it's not so much the time it takes for me, aslong as we will get the games at some stage, but to not even release titles isn't fair.

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« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2003, 08:49:18 PM »
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First, you have to translate the game into 5 different languages.  I am personally well accustomed to waiting 6 months for games to be translated to English when coming from Japan.  But with PAL, you also have to modify the game so it runs properly on a TV with a bit higher of resolution and a lower refresh rate.  If you think that doing all that is easy, then you need your head examined.


True, but it seems Nintendo is getting even lazier when it comes to PAL conversions with the GC. They GAVE UP on translating Animal Crossing, so they threw it at Australia and New Zealand with the American spelling ('Mom' and so on) and wrong seasons. A year later. Plus there was the Zelda bonus disc, which didn't even run on standard 50Htz TVs.

There's really no excuse at all with the whole Mario Golf thing. It's golf. It's not some text heavy RPG. But you know, I'm tired of bitching about Nintendo.. So I'll just end it here. =p

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« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2003, 09:59:29 PM »
I'd hardly say that Nintendo's much better than they were a year or two ago.  It seems to be that the only reason the e-Reader came out locally was because Mario Advance 4 was going to support it.  NAL certainly seems to be getting much more half-assed.  I mean, go and buy a pack of Battle-e cards.  You'll notice that on the packaging it says, quite clearly, 'FOR SALE IN THE US, MEXICO AND CANADA ONLY'.  Nice one, Nintendo.  The packaging isn't even local - they're just bringing US packs directly over.  And don't get me started on the atrocity of Animal Crossing.  Geez.  Let's see, what have we got:

- A blank memory card 59 with no Bonus Items
- US spelling
- Northern Hemisphere seasons
- No 60 Hz mode
- No Localisation of holidays, date/time, just about bloody anything

What the hell were NAL doing for 13 months?  Twiddling thumbs?  We're supposed to be thankful for this terrible conversion or something?  All I can say is thank God I've been importing most games.

Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland hasn't been released yet.  Yup.  When did this come out in the US?  December last year?  Wow!  Another game that's been delayed by at least a year.  Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour is still yet to appear as well.  That came out in July, nearly five months ago.

Well, at least we got Super Mario Advance 4 on time, eh?  And with e-Reader cards, no less.  ...wait a minute, what's this?  If you buy it in Wal-Mart (Big W to us) in America, you get SEVEN cards instead of two?  Fantastic.  Why do I have a funny feeling we'll never be seeing those out here?  And the release date for the Mario Bros. 3 e-Cards?  "Um...what are those?  I've never heard of them."

Fine job, Nintendo Australia.  Keep up the good work.

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« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2003, 10:06:40 PM »
what state u from ben ?
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« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2003, 11:34:40 PM »
I enjoy the way this thread deteriorated just there. Ben gives us a great post detailing the crapness of Nintendo Australia Ltd (full of readable spelling, I mgiht ad) and some Knobcheese follows up with asking what state we lives in.
Good one.

I think that NAL is really really poor, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that not everything is their fault. For starters, the delay between game releases is because of the time it takes to translate high language games into 4 European languages to release over all PAL territories. It just makes business sense to release the same product in all PAL areas (South America, Europe and Australia) instead of localising EVERY one. We should be more grateful that the far majority of GBA games we get are released very soon after the US, Europe gets them much later than us, yet they dont bitch and whine nearly as much as we do. Is it because we are more arrogant and believe in our own self-inportantance? I think it is. Try to think of Nintendo as what they are, a business, not the charity we think of them us. Who you gonna care about more, the huge growing market, or the minicule, starving, bitchy market on the edge of the world.
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« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2003, 12:05:15 AM »
i dont actually care if nintendo isnt goin that well in australia because now we r getting games on par with USA and its getting cheaper. 20million people compared to 200million is alot of difference no wonder nintendo dont care about australia because its so small.
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