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RE: Why you should drop IE
« Reply #100 on: December 05, 2003, 02:46:00 PM »
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RE:Why you should drop IE
« Reply #101 on: December 06, 2003, 01:55:12 AM »
Grey Ninja, quick question... since I went up to Firebird 0.7 I have a "part-time" scrollbar?  Half of the time my scrollbar is completely missing, and other times it's there.  I haven't really looked for anything on it, just curious to see if you have any ideas.  

The only other problem I have is more with the JRE; some Java chats close after about 5 minutes... it happens every time (but that's not a Firebird issue)... HOPEFULLY Sun will get that fixed eventually; everyone who goes to the same chat and uses JRE has the same problems (so I know it's not just me).  
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RE: Why you should drop IE
« Reply #102 on: December 06, 2003, 03:42:43 AM »
Ghost: That has to read "hopefully Microsoft gets that fixed". JRE is the real Java, if the chat produces errors there the chat is probably at fault. Maybe they wrote it for the Microsoft VM. That's like a website working only in IE.
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« Reply #103 on: December 06, 2003, 04:20:21 AM »
Yeah, thanks for correcting me.  I don't count on Microsoft EVER fixing anything *cough* Windows *cough*, let alone something that they don't make anymore (I believe they only offer patches for existing copies of Microsoft VM... but I know where you can download it at).  
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RE: Why you should drop IE
« Reply #104 on: December 06, 2003, 04:31:15 AM »
Heh, microsoft does do somethings well. I have a workstation running Windows 2003 Enterprise Edition, and it is actually one of the best Operating Systems out there.
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RE:Why you should drop IE
« Reply #105 on: December 06, 2003, 07:14:16 AM »
manunited, I have a copy of Windows Server 2003 sitting about 4 feet away from me, but I have never used it.  Personally I am thinking about migrating to Linux permanently.  But I give MS credit for making 2 good things:

1)  Windows Media Player (Reasonably fast, plays almost anything, doesn't crash, has become bloatware though)
2)  Visual Studio (I actually really really like Visual Studio... it's insanely bloated though)

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Grey Ninja, quick question... since I went up to Firebird 0.7 I have a "part-time" scrollbar?  Half of the time my scrollbar is completely missing, and other times it's there.  I haven't really looked for anything on it, just curious to see if you have any ideas.  

The only other problem I have is more with the JRE; some Java chats close after about 5 minutes... it happens every time (but that's not a Firebird issue)... HOPEFULLY Sun will get that fixed eventually; everyone who goes to the same chat and uses JRE has the same problems (so I know it's not just me).


The scrollbar shouldn't display if it's not needed.  If the page you are viewing is smaller than your screen area, no scrollbars appear.  That's about the only thing I can think of that you might be talking about.  Never had a problem where I couldn't see everything myself.  
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RE:Why you should drop IE
« Reply #106 on: December 06, 2003, 07:30:34 AM »
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The scrollbar shouldn't display if it's not needed.  If the page you are viewing is smaller than your screen area, no scrollbars appear.  That's about the only thing I can think of that you might be talking about.  Never had a problem where I couldn't see everything myself.  


No, it's in pages where I should have a scroll bar (for instance this thread).

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I couldn't tell you, it's literally 50/50; half of the time I have a scrollbar, and the rest of the time I have to rely on the scroll wheel on my mouse.  I'll have to look into it and see if I can find anything out about it.  
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RE: Why you should drop IE
« Reply #107 on: December 06, 2003, 07:51:10 AM »
I don't know....  I thought it might have been your skin, but it isn't.  I just got the same skin as you (orbit red right?), and I am having no problems with my scrolling...

What build are you using?
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RE: Why you should drop IE
« Reply #108 on: December 06, 2003, 01:16:42 PM »
Hey grey, why do you call internet explorer IE?  Doesn't that mean for example, instead of internet explorer?  

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RE:Why you should drop IE
« Reply #109 on: December 06, 2003, 01:23:07 PM »
IE is fine, it gets me my porn rightaway.
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RE: Why you should drop IE
« Reply #110 on: December 06, 2003, 01:24:23 PM »
Its not ie, its just plain old explorer

ie means for example
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« Reply #111 on: December 06, 2003, 08:25:20 PM »
actually, "eg" means "for example".  IE means "That is"

And I know that it might be incomprehensible to you... but some acronyms have several meanings that are determined by context.  eg, FPS:

Fields Per Second
Frames Per Second
First Person Shooter
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RE:Why you should drop IE
« Reply #112 on: December 07, 2003, 02:42:25 AM »
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I don't know....  I thought it might have been your skin, but it isn't.  I just got the same skin as you (orbit red right?), and I am having no problems with my scrolling...

What build are you using?


Yeah, I'm using orbit red; I thought it might be the skin so I went back to the default, but it was the same.  I did a fresh install with the Windows Installer this time just to see if it'd make any difference and it seems to be working fine now.  I'm not sure what it was, but it appears fixed.  
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RE: Why you should drop IE
« Reply #113 on: December 07, 2003, 04:16:57 AM »
When I logged in to MSN Messenger this morning I got a message saying there was a new version available so I got it.  Now I'm immediately logged out when ever I log on. O_o

Congratulations!
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I went extension crazy lastnight and downloaded a bunch.  Just to have them I got the card games, block fall, and minesweeper.  For some reason mnesweeper won't appear in the tools menu.  Got that are more practical and know I'm going to use.

-TabScroller
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-Things they left out

There are other ones I got too but I'm not sure if I'll ever use them.  Still, extensions are fun stuff.
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RE:Why you should drop IE
« Reply #114 on: December 11, 2003, 02:46:44 AM »
After reading all this (and closing the five-hundreth pop-up), I switched. Wish me luck.
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RE: Why you should drop IE
« Reply #115 on: December 11, 2003, 03:25:42 AM »
If you're having buggy troubles with Firebird, try straight Mozilla. Mozilla.org states since it is pre-1.0 software there may be more than the usual number of kinks and bugs. Personally at the moment at least, I still just find something about Mozilla nicer to work with.

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« Reply #116 on: December 11, 2003, 01:29:26 PM »
Procession, I just like the simplicity and speed which Firebird gives me.  It's like comparing Winamp 2 to Winamp 3.  I can live with a few bugs if it means more speed.

And I use Windows XP Pro at the moment.  I am going to try to reinstate my Linux partition this weekend however.  (Mandrake 9.2... been a Windows user for FAR too long for anything more hardcore.)
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RE: Why you should drop IE
« Reply #117 on: December 11, 2003, 02:39:21 PM »
Actually, Firebird is fairly stable.  There didn't seem to be anything wrong with 0.7 that would keep me from using it as my default browser.  If you want some bugs then get the latest nightlys which have features they're testing and perfecting for the 0.8 release.  Two of the biggest changes you'd probably notice are the new download manager and bookmark manager.  The download manager has been in it for a while so it has many of the bugs worked out.  On the other hand the bookmark manager was just changed this week so it still has some bugs that need to be ironed out.  One of the bugs makes the manager window widen each time you click a certain button.  It's quite fun actually.
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« Reply #118 on: December 11, 2003, 05:52:50 PM »
heh.  I actually went back to the milestone recently when I encountered some severe bugs in the nightly.  That was like 2 weeks ago.  I will have to check out the new nightly though.  Thanks for the tip.  (besides.... I have been missing my SSE optimizations.  )

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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031210 Firebird/0.7+ (aebrahim)


ahhh....  good old Aebrahim.  The dude never lets me down.  I can't really say as that I like the new icon, but everything else seems to be rocking my world.  
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RE: Why you should drop IE
« Reply #119 on: December 12, 2003, 11:02:11 AM »
Bah, SSE only! I need my SSE2 optimizations!  

Just curious, does anyone know if the apparent problem that messed with both mozilla and IE has been fixed/patched/is factual?
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« Reply #120 on: December 12, 2003, 11:28:33 AM »
manunited, if you would like SSE2, that is available too.    I own an Athlon XP however, and am not capable of executing the SSE2 instruction set.  (But I hope to be SSE3 capable come next year...)

And sorry... don't really know what problem you are referring to?
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