Author Topic: the end of humanity (Read 49169 times)

ThePerm · « **Reply #225 on:** October 26, 2003, 04:07:39 PM »

well theres obviously us heathens...and then there are the goody twoshoes...we should end the topic on that....

goodie twoshoes and twisted peopl can't agree on anything....excep we cant agree on anything.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #226 on:** October 26, 2003, 04:08:55 PM »

Sssshhhh!

This topic is much more interesting than hearing people preach about profanity...

ThePerm · « **Reply #227 on:** October 26, 2003, 04:21:46 PM »

goes to the alternate dimention where the word walk means fuck...and then someone runs up to you and says Walk you!

Marcus Arillius · « **Reply #228 on:** October 26, 2003, 04:39:59 PM »

If you really want to understand everything in this thread, you should take sociology if you're in college or if it's offered in your high-school, for those of you of age.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #229 on:** October 26, 2003, 04:45:42 PM »

Meh, the sociology class at my high school is just busy work- my sister didn't like the class and I don't really like the teacher.

The Omen · « **Reply #230 on:** October 26, 2003, 06:11:15 PM »

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well 30 years ago in america a black man couldn't drink out of a watrer fountain unlessi t was marked "colored". This was because everyone felt it was immoral to treat black americans equally..or interbreed or what not. Do you agree with these morals? Id hope not. The point is not everyone shares the same moral views. In fact the word moral is so lame. Anyone ever taken a sociology class?

Funny, i never knew having an extreme hatred and prejudice against another because of color would ever be considered moral view. Hating anything is immoral, so the whole argument is skewed.

Good quotes , Termin8anakin and Grey Ninja.

Ms.Pikmin · « **Reply #231 on:** October 26, 2003, 07:07:47 PM »

Geez, you guys know how to work sex into anything now don't ya? It would just be wrong for me to comment so I'm gonna take my drugged up, snot filled head and go to bed. And with that sexy thought, Good Night!

ThePerm · « **Reply #232 on:** October 30, 2003, 02:51:15 PM »

i loved sociology in college

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #233 on:** October 30, 2003, 03:57:42 PM »

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It would just be wrong for me to comment so I'm gonna take my drugged up, snot filled head and go to bed. And with that sexy thought, Good Night!

eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww.................

*throws up*

nolimit19 · « **Reply #234 on:** October 31, 2003, 05:21:03 PM »

all i know is that i read someone say that there is no right and wrong....and to that i am nothing short of appauled. not suprised of course becaues thats what liberal propoganda teaches, but appauled none the less. morals are absolute. liberals like to say there are no absolutes, but that in itself is an absolute. also math is a good example of absolute truth. 1+1 is always 2 and hurting anyone in anyway is always wrong. and yes as someone pointed out people can have incorrect morals. and morals are lame? liberals seem to want to turn humans into nothing more then hairless apes. we are so much more intelligent then to not have any standards. are ability to say no to our insticts and emotions is what seperates us from the animals. and now we want to destroy that? lets go live in the jungle and pick each others butt cracks for flees. who they hell buys into that psychology(and sociology) crap? they dont know anything. they change their mind every years about how the human psyche works. and they all end up killing themselves or on drugs because they are stupid and cant handle the real world.

The Omen · « **Reply #235 on:** October 31, 2003, 07:16:07 PM »

Ah, you're getting into moral absolution vs ethics. ...

Ocarina Blue · « **Reply #236 on:** October 31, 2003, 07:42:43 PM »

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Originally posted by: nolimit19
all i know is that i read someone say that there is no right and wrong....and to that i am nothing short of appauled. not suprised of course becaues thats what liberal propoganda teaches, but appauled none the less. morals are absolute. liberals like to say there are no absolutes, but that in itself is an absolute. also math is a good example of absolute truth. 1+1 is always 2 and hurting anyone in anyway is always wrong. and yes as someone pointed out people can have incorrect morals. and morals are lame? liberals seem to want to turn humans into nothing more then hairless apes. we are so much more intelligent then to not have any standards. are ability to say no to our insticts and emotions is what seperates us from the animals. and now we want to destroy that? lets go live in the jungle and pick each others butt cracks for flees. who they hell buys into that psychology(and sociology) crap? they dont know anything. they change their mind every years about how the human psyche works. and they all end up killing themselves or on drugs because they are stupid and cant handle the real world.

How can you make such sweeping assumptions such as that? Sooner or later you're going to realise that you can't blame anything you see as negitive to humans as a whole on 'liberals' and that your opinion is NOT absolute. There are many people who have spend many years of solid meditiation, thought or studying and interpreting religous texts each day; or have devoted their lives to studying the human mind, what makes you think you're personal observations on morals or how our minds/scocieteys work are more worthy of note than theirs?

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #237 on:** October 31, 2003, 08:04:07 PM »

Ocarina, don't bother. He's a very closed minded person, and I think that we could all sit here talking to him about this for 10,000 years without doing much to open his mind. Children learn things very well, and generally they follow what their parents and respected people teach them. When they get older, it's often impossible to make people unlearn what they learned as children. Depending on the person, opposing views can be met with intense resistance. Such a person is known as being closed minded. On the other scale, an open minded person will generally meet even the most extreme viewpoints with rational logic, and make up their mind based on the facts at hand, rather than any preset conclusions.

This is just my hypothesis, so I could be way off, but here's the story of Nolimit's life. He is in his early adulthood, maybe his late teens. As a child, his parents were fairly fundamentalist in their religion, and had fairly strong viewpoints on politics. They were probably active in their church, going to church every sunday, etc, , and would frequently call down the people opposite of liberal (I know dick all about politics), in day to day life. Much like people had a problem with "commies" during the cold war. Nolimit may or may not still live at home, but he still has very strong ties with his parents and loves and respects them very much.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #238 on:** November 01, 2003, 01:57:37 AM »

I'm not a person that leans particularly toward any political point of view, but it really makes me mad when people call others close-minded. Because the person that said it is equally, if not more so, close-minded. Not trying to make any suggestions about you, Grey Ninja, just thought I'd give nolimit a little defense.

Point? I imagine nolimit is quite capable of realizing what you're saying, and accepts it to a degree. What he said is not really accurate, but I'm not going to sit here and say he's completely wrong, either, because he's not. But I gotta go. More later.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #239 on:** November 01, 2003, 03:52:17 AM »

actually everything that ninja said is wrong(except my age, im 20). i dont go to church on sunday, my parents arent fundamentalist or poitical, and i am pretty open minded. everything i believe in now, i didnt used to believe at one point or another. most of my beliefs i have developed within the last year. i didnt come up with moral absolutism on my own obvious, that has been around a lot longer then i have. if you dont think its wrong to hurt people then thats fine, but even most normal liberals will say that there is right and wrong. its only extreme liberals that are trying to kill of every last breath of morals. and thats fine, someone has to do satans work i suppose. however, those who are willing to listen(people who are open minded) should listen to reason. there is right and wrong. call me crazy or close minded for thinking that, but i think that more then 90 percent of hte worlds population believes in it. i guess i am pretty fanatical going against that 10 percent. and yes of course through out history, liberals have done most of the good in the world. jesus was a liberal for his time, fighting the super conservative church. tons of guys in the enlightenment had many good ideas, and even though they were mostly diests(meaning not like me) i still respect them and some of their ideas. darwin is a good example too. even though today, people stretch what he said to make everyone think we came from nothing...still a good man, and a liberal for his time. in todays world though....no. liberals (i mean extreme left) just want to kill everything great about humanity. imagine a world where there was no right or wrong.....thats a disgusting approach to life and an extremely selfish one. basically if you get away with it, then anything goes. now listen i am not saying that "i, the great nolimit, have all the answers and am better then everyone." im just saying (just like everyone else here) my opinions. i state them like fact, but so has everyone else here. and someone here has to be at least a little bit right, so there are some facts here, but to us its all opinions, so everyone just settle down.

also i am the most logical person i ever met, there is nothing logical about developing from thin air or no right or wrong. these views are not new to me at all so its not like i just came up with that just now while reading these posts. i almost became an athiest a year ago, i am open to anything.

The Omen · « **Reply #240 on:** November 01, 2003, 06:13:36 AM »

It breaks down like this: Extreme left(liberal} , want everything to be allowed, unfiltered, whether it hurts people or not. Whether it be guns, no pledge of allegiance in school, their goal is quite obvious. The extreme right(conservative) want to control everything, censor what they see as offensive, whether it hurts people or not.. The trick is to keep your own mind about you, while these two brainwashers battle for votes. I do believe there is right and wrong, but if nobody else does, i dont give a sh!t. Why don't i give a sh!t? Look at this thread and tell me what has been accomplished? Nothing. Even people who say there is no right and wrong say that in theory, as they are obviously not going out commiting mass murders or burning people at the stake. It usually comes down to an ethical view, which has many positives, and just like moral absolution , has many negatives. All you can do is live your life the way you want to. Don't worry about other people, as they certainly arent worrying about you. I feel i've wasted too much time on this subject, and should heed my own advice. Death to tyrants!

P.S. Grey Ninja, i want you to analyze me next. Just want to see what kind of vibes i put out.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #241 on:** November 01, 2003, 08:48:24 AM »

the only thing i care about is the truth

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #242 on:** November 01, 2003, 08:52:22 AM »

yes, but come now. The one thing you should have learned by now is that the only absolute in this universe is that there is no such thing as an absolute.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #243 on:** November 01, 2003, 11:35:34 AM »

Actually, I wouldn't even trust that much. The universe is a very fickle thing.

I figure the world would be a whole lot cooler if someone let me decide what should happen, but my friends hardly take me seriously, much less the rest of the world. So. . . their loss.
I don't want to rule the world, of course. That'd be boring. Much more fun to go about and do whatever. . . I spend less time worrying about politics and morals and more time having fun and playing Nintendo. May not be for everyone, I suppose, but it seems like a good idea to me.

Ms.Pikmin · « **Reply #244 on:** November 01, 2003, 11:35:58 AM »

wouldn't pie be an absolute?

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #245 on:** November 01, 2003, 11:46:35 AM »

What if it's apple? Cherry? Key lime? Lemon meringue? Pumpkin? Pecan? Blackbird? What if it costs 50 cents? A dollar? Five dollars? Ten dollars? Fifteen dollars? Yummy? Crappy? Small? Medium? Big? Humongazoid? For eating? For splatting in faces? For stealing off of window panes? Warm? Hot? Cold? Old? New? Fresh? Stale? Dry? Moist? Half? Whole? Quarter? Eighth? HECK NO, PIE AIN'T ABSOLUTE!!!!!

The Omen · « **Reply #246 on:** November 01, 2003, 12:33:27 PM »

Heres an absolute-this thread is dead.

manunited4eva22 · « **Reply #247 on:** November 01, 2003, 12:48:58 PM »

Here is an absolute, anyone who resorts to calling an opposing arguement 'the devil' needs to watch the waterboy.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #248 on:** November 01, 2003, 05:04:48 PM »

Here's an absolute: saying stuff about being the absolute this much is really dumb and annoying! Har har, get it? See, I insulted you. Funny, no?

Didn't mean to sound so harsh. Just messin'

nolimit19 · « **Reply #249 on:** November 01, 2003, 05:55:54 PM »

lol i thought we agreed that words are just words...so my devil comment should in theory have no effect on anyone. i cant believe you fell for that. i just laid the bait and you just bit. lol...but anyways...math is obviously proof of absolutes. along with laws of motion and things of that sort. logically i dont see how there couldnt be many absolutes. sure through our eyes we see lots of grey, but i think that in reality most everything is black and white...again just my OPINION. i mean....we either developed from apes or we were created...one is true and one is wrong...so one is an absolute truth. there either is a god or there isnt...again an absolute. sure there are somethings that arent black and white. what is better coke or pepsi....not an absolute. but i think to say there are NO absolutes is wrong...PERSONALLY

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Author Topic: the end of humanity (Read 49169 times)