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BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #50 on:** May 28, 2007, 07:14:32 PM »

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hopefully Rush Hour 3 doesn't dissapoint me like every other trilogy this summer

Hmm, Chris Tucker is in it and Brett Ratner is directing. He already f-ed up X-Men 3. I'd say the odds are against RH3 not disappointing you.

To be fair, Brett had to come in to someone elses movie and finish it, Rush Hour is Brett's from the beginning if I remember right. So if you liked Rush Hour 1 & 2, good chances are that you might atleast enjoy the 3rd. It has the same main actors and the same director, the movie is/was not rushed as that 2nd movie came out over 3 years ago, and besides, I don't think Chris Tucker would have signed on unless he was happy with the script. You know how picky that guy seems to be about movies.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #51 on:** May 28, 2007, 08:23:48 PM »

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I had the same complaint as you in regards to the Davy Jones storyline. It makes me wonder if there is a longer cut of the movie that clears up some of the holes, but was cut due to time constraints.
Considering how bloated the film is, I doubt that. Unless they were even stupider and decided to not show those scenes in favour of other useless ones.. Man, I really don't like movies that drone on like this. Reminds me of King Kong.

King Kong was a splendid movie and so was POTC3, I never once thought "I wish this would just get over", but hey with today's ADD culture it is no surprise people can't sit through a longer movie.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #52 on:** May 28, 2007, 08:24:22 PM »

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I liked At World's End. At the very least, it was better than Spiderman 3 because, you know, they didn't kill Davy Jones by tossing a grenade at him. Three major failings:
1. Elizabeth Swan's big speeches.
2. Not enough Sao Feng then... boom, kablamo....
3. Norrington. What the hell happened? He was so cool in Dead Man's Chest.

Tia Dalma gave everyone crabs.

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hopefully Rush Hour 3 doesn't dissapoint me like every other trilogy this summer

Hmm, Chris Tucker is in it and Brett Ratner is directing. He already f-ed up X-Men 3. I'd say the odds are against RH3 not disappointing you.

What was wrong with Swan's speeches? I thought they were passionate, and well acted.

IceCold · « **Reply #53 on:** May 28, 2007, 08:31:30 PM »

Hmm, well I guess we disagree on both counts then - it's my view that King Kong could and should have been much more streamlined. It honestly sometimes took an hour to portray what could have been done more effectively and concisely in fifteen minutes. Waste of my time.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #54 on:** May 28, 2007, 08:37:01 PM »

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Hmm, well I guess we disagree on both counts then - it's my view that King Kong could and should have been much more streamlined. It honestly sometimes took an hour to portray what could have been done more effectively and concisely in fifteen minutes. Waste of my time.

King Kong was a very character driven movie and I appreciated the 1 hr lead up, it made me care about the characters, not to mention to better appreciate the action. POTC3 on the other hand was almost non-stop action and seldom if ever dragged.

Adrock · « **Reply #55 on:** May 28, 2007, 08:48:13 PM »

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BlackNMild2k1 wrote:
To be fair, Brett had to come in to someone elses movie and finish it, Rush Hour is Brett's from the beginning if I remember right. So if you liked Rush Hour 1 & 2, good chances are that you might atleast enjoy the 3rd.

From what I've read, Bryan Singer had a nearly completed treatment and Brett Ratner used very little of it. Singer's X-Men 3 was supposedly focused on just the resurrection of Jean Grey... and not every X-Men plot ever conceived.

Even though I think Bret Ratner is a terrible filmmaker, I suppose you're right. If you liked the first 2, there's a chance you might like the 3rd. Anyway, I think it's absolutely absurd how much money Chris Tucker is getting paid, especially since its substantially more than Jackie Chan.

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Golden Phoenix wrote:
What was wrong with Swan's speeches? I thought they were passionate, and well acted.

They were cliche.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #56 on:** May 29, 2007, 02:44:23 AM »

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BlackNMild2k1 wrote:
To be fair, Brett had to come in to someone elses movie and finish it, Rush Hour is Brett's from the beginning if I remember right. So if you liked Rush Hour 1 & 2, good chances are that you might atleast enjoy the 3rd.

From what I've read, Bryan Singer had a nearly completed treatment and Brett Ratner used very little of it. Singer's X-Men 3 was supposedly focused on just the resurrection of Jean Grey... and not every X-Men plot ever conceived.

Well, then Bryan Singer should have stayed on and finished what he started, and maybe Bret Ratner could've taken on the Superman Returns film, caus I don't think it could've been any worse. Besides Superman Returns could've used more action and less emo Superman and other such character developments.

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Even though I think Bret Ratner is a terrible filmmaker, I suppose you're right. If you liked the first 2, there's a chance you might like the 3rd. Anyway, I think it's absolutely absurd how much money Chris Tucker is getting paid, especially since its substantially more than Jackie Chan.

Chris Tucker is a smart man, work less, get paid more. I envy that man.

Adrock · « **Reply #57 on:** May 29, 2007, 03:38:51 AM »

I blame Fox (also responsible for cancelling Futurama among other shows). Bryan Singer asked for ONE year so he could do Superman and Fox said no. And while I liked Superman Returns, I agree there should have been more action. Apparently there was in the original script except Singer wanted Jude Law to be General Zod. Zod's a jerk, Law is a jerk, I can see why Singer wanted to cast him.

I'd like to think the reason Chris Tucker hasn't had any roles in the past 6 years is because everyone, except Ratner but including Tucker himself, realized how annoying Chris Tucker is and stopped casting him in movies. I hate Chris Tucker. You're probably smarter and funnier with a far less annoying voice than Chris Tucker. You'll get your chance at the big bucks.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #58 on:** May 29, 2007, 05:33:14 AM »

I saw Pirates 3 on Sunday. I have pretty mixed feelings on it. I loved the first one. I even loved the second one. The third one, though, takes itself way too seriously. Way, way, too seriously.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #59 on:** May 29, 2007, 06:02:08 AM »

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I saw Pirates 3 on Sunday. I have pretty mixed feelings on it. I loved the first one. I even loved the second one. The third one, though, takes itself way too seriously. Way, way, too seriously.

no it does not.... and the scene where Elizabeth pulls a weapon out of her ass proves that...

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 29, 2007, 08:07:39 AM »

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I saw Pirates 3 on Sunday. I have pretty mixed feelings on it. I loved the first one. I even loved the second one. The third one, though, takes itself way too seriously. Way, way, too seriously.
no it does not.... and the scene where Elizabeth pulls a weapon out of her ass proves that...

Haha, seriously, I was like "WTF, I don't wanna know where she was hiding big ass gun!"

The only parts of the movie that took itself (somewhat) seriously was the non-pirate parts of the movie, but that is pretty much the same for all 3 movies and thats what makes the charm and apparently drunk nature of Jack Sparrow stand out, not to mention the general goofiness of the pirates overall.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #61 on:** May 29, 2007, 08:39:43 AM »

Oh, there were plenty of those moments, but the overall tone dragged them down. It's the difference between comedy and comic relief.

TrueNerd · « **Reply #62 on:** May 29, 2007, 10:44:27 AM »

The movie definitely took itself too seriously! The first half, it didn't, and it's no surprise that that half didn't suck. Does anyone care that Davy Jones and Calypso were in love? Does anyone care that Orlando Bloom and Keira are in love? Their "wedding" made me throw up a little bit. Does anyone care about anything that doesn't involve Johnny Depp's drunkeness? Seriously, when Bloom gets stabbed, I barely reacted in any fashion. The instant Pirates 3 stops trying to be lighthearted and fun, it sinks.

And hey look! They left room a fourth movie!

ShyGuy · « **Reply #63 on:** May 29, 2007, 11:32:32 AM »

The hanging the little boy at the beginning was "hard core". The girl I saw it with had her hand over her mouth through the whole scene.

Requiem · « **Reply #64 on:** May 29, 2007, 12:19:26 PM »

"The girl I saw it with had her hand over her mouth through the whole scene"

By "girl", do you mean sister?!

hahaha, seriously though. TrueNerd hit the nail on the head. The problem with the third movie is that no one cared.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #65 on:** May 29, 2007, 02:20:32 PM »

I mean your mom.

I agree about them sucking all the empathy out of the story. hacking away half the subplots from movie 2 and 3 would have helped.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #66 on:** May 29, 2007, 08:46:17 PM »

You guys are nuts, the Calypso and Davy Jones scene was key to the movie and found it well done. The wedding scene was hilarious as well, the movie had a perfect balance of comedy and seriousness.

King of Twitch · « **Reply #67 on:** May 29, 2007, 09:21:05 PM »

NO U R NUTS. a pirate girl that turns into a giant then into millions of ENEMY CRABS... how does that ever make sense? The wedding scene looked like they were miming something from a musical.

It's the same thing with Shrek 3; plot runs into problem of damsels in distress ... so how do we get them out of prison?? I know! Have one of them bash their head into the wall and make a giant hole to escape from! Whoever is thinking up these plots are dipping their chips with the same stupid sauce.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #68 on:** May 29, 2007, 09:22:13 PM »

Apparently, in a scene cut from the movie Calypso explains that if the Captain of the Flying Dutchman's lover stays true for the 10 years, he is allowed to go free. This would make why Davy Jones was mad at Calypso make more sense and give hope to Will

Requiem · « **Reply #69 on:** May 30, 2007, 02:28:45 AM »

Ah ya....

Why didn't they tell us that whoever stabs the heart takes over the Dutchman in the second movie? That's a pretty key piece of information that NOONE seemed to have wanted to mention ANYWHERE in the second movie, even though the second movie was based around that.

And ShyGuy, that would make a huge plot whole. After ten years then, who takes over? It needs a captain right?

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #70 on:** May 31, 2007, 12:21:51 AM »

Presumably Calypso would have to find someone else, like she did originally with Davy Jones.

S-U-P-E-R · « **Reply #71 on:** June 01, 2007, 03:13:22 PM »

I saw it and liked it! Even if it didn't completely make sense, I'm all about the awesome pirate battles.

My buddy I mentioned earlier in this thread actually got a pretty important role. He was the asian pirate spy guy in the beginning with the fake tattoo that melted off. Congrats to him for his motion picture superstar debut

wandering · « **Reply #72 on:** June 01, 2007, 07:50:47 PM »

The wacky Japanese dub probably made the movie seem better than it actually was.

S-U-P-E-R · « **Reply #73 on:** June 02, 2007, 02:37:31 AM »

It was subtitled, kewlguy

wulffman04 · « **Reply #74 on:** June 03, 2007, 07:39:06 PM »

I was also extremely disappointed in the ending, you saw it a mile away and what was up with that ship battle, i kept waiting and waiting for more and more ships to join in. My favorite of the three movies was definitively the first. If you have ever been on the ride in Disneyland/world, you can see how well related it is to the first movie but i lost that after the first one. This one did have one scene where the screen went completely black and you could here sound bites from the ride, but it really kind of lost its steam. Jack sparrow didn't have a great opening scene either. Well, it was still a little disappointing, but worth the money.

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