Topic: Ouya

[BranDonk Kong]

Black Ops Zombies is out for Android now...so there's at least a little bit of Call of Duty.

[ThePerm]

7.12 million with only 35 hours to go. It would be awesome if my kick-starter ended up being that popular when I launch it.

[BranDonk Kong]

Too lazy to copy and paste links, but the XBMC Android app is going to be catered to Ouya, so I'm officially going to get one. A $99 console and HTPC that can play any type of video under the sun? Perfect. I'll probably get two or three actually.

[oohhboy]

Your tears will be sweet when March rolls around. Just wait for it to actually show up. By the time it comes out there will something out that would make this look like more of a joke than it already is.

[BranDonk Kong]

I don't get it. You can't honestly think that this will be another Phantom. Even if it is "very niche" that's fine and dandy, because I'm part of that niche. But seriously, explain to me how this is a joke, and why there will be something else to make it look more like said joke. With details and explanations, please.

[ThePerm]

you know its not that far off from being a roku

that is a tv machine that plays angry birds, i might get this because 2 reasons, it has minecraft, and i could always play minecraft on something else, and what brandogg just said, it plays all sorts of video types making it better then a roku

[Ceric]

I'm getting it mainly as a supplement for my PS3 and hopefully WiiU for streaming content.

[Chozo Ghost]

Your tears will be sweet when March rolls around. Just wait for it to actually show up. By the time it comes out there will something out that would make this look like more of a joke than it already is.

Something much more powerful may be out by then, but no way will whatever that is be able to match the Ouya's price of $99.

[ThePerm]

i just checked out the kick-starter again, and it jumped up a million dollars since I last looked.

[shingi_70]

This is going to do well in the enthusiast market for home machines. The mainstream market are going to be all apple TV and xbox though.


But I expect this to be delayed to hell. The pebble smartwatch is less complicated than this and is missing its date due to production issues.

[BranDonk Kong]

Apple TV is far from mainstream, very far...and the Pebble actually seems a lot more complicated than the Ouya in several aspects.

[NWR_insanolord]

AppleTV isn't as mainstream as a lot of Apple's other products, but it's far more mainstream than this is going to be.

[BranDonk Kong]

By "a lot of Apple's other products" I assume you mean iPads, iPhones and iPods. But the AppleTV isn't mainstream at all - sure they've sold 3 million (about the same amount of boxes that Roku has sold) of the new ones (most of which were likely sold to people who bought the previous models), but I wouldn't really call that "far more mainstream" than anything, especially something that hasn't been released.

[shingi_70]

Well I was mostly talking about the concept between the two. That and I wouldn't count Apple out seeing as this is still a pretty young market with only two aruble successes (Roku and 360).

It wouldn't take a lot to ha e apple TV be more competitive but it would cost money that apple probably doesn't want to spend.  Thing needs to allow open development for it and a few upgrades that would cause the loss of the $99 price point.

The biggest hurdle it probably faces is the fact that after what happened to the music industry Video content guys aren't as willing to jump into bed fearing apple will own that space and ditacte it around like they do the music industry.

[Chozo Ghost]

AppleTV isn't as mainstream as a lot of Apple's other products, but it's far more mainstream than this is going to be.

But Apple doesn't make open platforms. Ouya is open, so it is more important that it do well for the sake of freedom.

[NWR_insanolord]

The mainstream market doesn't give a **** if it's open. It's irrelevant to the vast majority of users.

Being open doesn't make something good.

[shingi_70]

AppleTV isn't as mainstream as a lot of Apple's other products, but it's far more mainstream than this is going to be.

But Apple doesn't make open platforms. Ouya is open, so it is more important that it do well for the sake of freedom.

Openness is usually a bad thing for the mainstream User.  Which is a big reason beyond the nerd hitching I think windows 8 is going to succeed.

That and OYUA probably has to get units out to its backers before getting purchasable units out.

[ThePerm]

8.58 million. They get to collect that money at 1 am.

[Lithium]

Too lazy to copy and paste links, but the XBMC Android app is going to be catered to Ouya, so I'm officially going to get one. A $99 console and HTPC that can play any type of video under the sun? Perfect. I'll probably get two or three actually.

Yeah that sounds pretty cool, i use xbmc on my pc plenty (monitor 2 is my HDTV) and $99 is a fair price for an xbmc box alone. Anyways I love the Ouya in theory but im playing the wait and see approach


http://xbmc.org/natethomas/2012/08/07/xbmc-and-ouya-oh-yeah/

[BranDonk Kong]

I don't understand why there is so much outright hate for a product that isn't out yet. I hate iPhones, but it took actual hands-on experience (and a lot of it) to achieve that hatred.

[Chozo Ghost]

The mainstream market doesn't give a **** if it's open. It's irrelevant to the vast majority of users.

It matters to developers because it gives them more freedom to do what they want. Unlike Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo anyone can make anything they want on the Android platform... there could AO rated sex games, for example. Something like Custer's Revenge or Blinding of Isaac would never be censored on Ouya.

The only condition Ouya seems to stipulate is that the games be freely playable in some manner, but considering the hardware itself is open and easy to hack, even this limitation can be bypassed and it won't void the warranty.

Being open doesn't make something good.

It doesn't make it bad, either. And the Android platform is already mainstream. Ouya won't be niche because Android itself isn't niche, and Ouya is Android.

Openness is usually a bad thing for the mainstream User.

Would you care to explain?

Which is a big reason beyond the nerd hitching I think windows 8 is going to succeed.

Windows 8 and Windows 9 and all other Windows is going to succeed because of the Windows monopoly. Microsoft has 90% of the desktop market and there's no way that is going to change anytime soon. It can be slowly eroded over time, but windows isn't going away in the near future.

Windows 3.1 and Windows 95 succeeded because they were easy to use (relative to most offerings of the time) and because it ran on IBM compatible PCs and was just the best option for the time. Since then Linux and other operating systems have developed which have closed the gap on ease of use, but the market has already been locked up in a monopoly and its tough to break that. Apple made a good move by switching to IBM architecture, because now its possible for Windows and MAC to dual boot on the same machine, so this helps, but its not going to instantly result in Windows being defeated. Over time, maybe, but we aren't there quite yet.

[tendoboy1984]

The mainstream market doesn't give a **** if it's open. It's irrelevant to the vast majority of users.

It matters to developers because it gives them more freedom to do what they want. Unlike Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo anyone can make anything they want on the Android platform... there could AO rated sex games, for example. Something like Custer's Revenge or Blinding of Isaac would never be censored on Ouya.

The only condition Ouya seems to stipulate is that the games be freely playable in some manner, but considering the hardware itself is open and easy to hack, even this limitation can be bypassed and it won't void the warranty.

Being open doesn't make something good.

It doesn't make it bad, either. And the Android platform is already mainstream. Ouya won't be niche because Android itself isn't niche, and Ouya is Android.

So Android is pretty much like Windows. You can download anything you want on a Windows PC, and Microsoft doesn't police anything.

[Chozo Ghost]

Windows isn't open source. Windows is vulnerable to viruses and blue screens of death. For the mainstream users open source is better, because vulnerabilities are more quickly discovered and dealt with by the community. In a closed platform these vulnerabilities aren't visible to the public.

[tendoboy1984]

Windows isn't open source. Windows is vulnerable to viruses and blue screens of death. For the mainstream users open source is better, because vulnerabilities are more quickly discovered and dealt with by the community. In a closed platform these vulnerabilities aren't visible to the public.

I know Windows isn't open source. I was just saying that Microsoft doesn't have any restrictions for creating or downloading software on a Windows PC. You can download anything you want from anywhere on the internet. It's the complete opposite of what Apple does with iOS.


If Apple opened up iOS like that, then they'd see a lot more happy developers and consumers. "App stores" are pointless and unneeded. You don't see Microsoft forcing Windows PC users to download stuff from an app store.

[BranDonk Kong]

If Apple opened up iOS like that, then they'd see a lot more happy developers and consumers. "App stores" are pointless and unneeded. You don't see Microsoft forcing Windows PC users to download stuff from an app store.

You will very soon. But I'd also like to point out that "App stores" are VERY important, at least early in the OS' development. If there was no App Store on the iPhone and iPod touch, there would probably be a lot more BlackBerry and Windows Mobile users out there.

Anyway - Ouya is now available to preoder for non-kickstarter backers at the super-inflated price of...$109 (which includes shipping).

That's another good point - Android is about as mainstream as it gets. The latest reports show it absolutely dominating the phone market, at 68.1% market share vs 16.9% for iOS, and the others...might as well not even exist anymore. So people are already pretty familiar with Android (even if it's on a $50 trow-away MetroPCS phone), which certainly will not hurt the Ouya when it's released.