Topic: PlayStation4 - News/Rumor/Speculation - Over 1 Million Sold on Day 1

[BranDonk Kong]

Batman did indeed look awesome, the scope of the city was nice. But dang it, those empty empty streets irritate me!

You know the game has at least another 6 months of development, right?

[Ceric]

Batman did indeed look awesome, the scope of the city was nice. But dang it, those empty empty streets irritate me!

You know the game has at least another 6 months of development, right?

Though at that point in time would you really want to be walking around Gotham?

[nickmitch]

By yourself?  At that time of night?  No way.  Too unsafe.

[BlackNMild2k1]

But that's why there is a BATMAN.

[azeke]

No way streets Gotham will have more people walking around, it's an obvious design decision to prevent Batman running over people.
They've already made huge concessions to make Batmobile "work" -- such as adding stupid Battank mode and making so that you can destroy lampposts and other random stuff environment.
 

I'll get a PS4 for New Super Sackboy

You're in luck -- LBP3 will also be on PS3.

[Ceric]

No way streets Gotham will have more people walking around, it's an obvious design decision to prevent Batman running over people.
They've already made huge concessions to make Batmobile "work" -- such as adding stupid Battank mode and making so that you can destroy lampposts and other random stuff environment.
 

I'll get a PS4 for New Super Sackboy

You're in luck -- LBP3 will also be on PS3.

Which I think is a HUGE mistake on Sony part.  LBP has proven to be an Evergreen game of sorts.  The PS4 badly needs this type of exclusive.  I think Sony should have played the long game with this one and made it PS4 exclusive.  They are shooting themselves in the foot with these PS3/4 games.  For most of us PS3 is good enough and the PS4 doesn't even offer something like Portability that the Vita offers.

Sony needs to justify the PS4 as more than just the new shiny for most people.  They might as well just release the bugger for Vita too so it can go to Playstation TV.

[lolmonade]

No way streets Gotham will have more people walking around, it's an obvious design decision to prevent Batman running over people.
They've already made huge concessions to make Batmobile "work" -- such as adding stupid Battank mode and making so that you can destroy lampposts and other random stuff environment.
 

I'll get a PS4 for New Super Sackboy

You're in luck -- LBP3 will also be on PS3.

Which I think is a HUGE mistake on Sony part.  LBP has proven to be an Evergreen game of sorts.  The PS4 badly needs this type of exclusive.  I think Sony should have played the long game with this one and made it PS4 exclusive.  They are shooting themselves in the foot with these PS3/4 games.  For most of us PS3 is good enough and the PS4 doesn't even offer something like Portability that the Vita offers.

Sony needs to justify the PS4 as more than just the new shiny for most people.  They might as well just release the bugger for Vita too so it can go to Playstation TV.

Disagree completely.  Nothing about LBP3 looks like it can't be done on all the systems Sony currently supports, and the PS4 is selling well enough to where it wouldn't hurt its potential sales by offering it on their old system.  Additionally, offering it on as many systems as possible ensures the biggest install base possible for an exclusive game.
 
I'll be picking this game up, as it's one of the few games shown during Sony's press conference that I actually thought looked like a lot of fun while watching.  So much of E3 was about dark/serious games that LBP3 was a breath of fresh air.

[Ceric]

I don't think you read my post lolmonade.

[lolmonade]

I don't think you read my post lolmonade.

Sure I did.  If I'm not mistaken, you were saying it was foolish for sony to not make LBP3 exclusive to PS4.  I was arguing otherwise.  Feel free to correct me if I misinterpreted what you wrote.

[marvel_moviefan_2012]

I won't say it is a mistake for Sony to keep supporting the PS3 for a while, only because it means I can hold off on upgrading for a while longer. Now that I am sold on Wii U I can wait a while on PS4 especially when all the games I want on Ps4 are still on PS3. Knack is the only game on PS4 I would buy that is not also on PS3 and thats not a system seller from what I gather.

[NWR_insanolord]

I won't say it is a mistake for Sony to keep supporting the PS3 for a while, only because it means I can hold off on upgrading for a while longer.

That would be the exact reason it's a mistake for Sony to continue supporting the PS3.

[marvel_moviefan_2012]

I disagree this way they help keep their loyal customers from getting turned off and then when they are ready to transition they will, that is what worked with PS2 so well. With PS3 they kind of pushed too hard in the beginning saying arrogant **** like people will get a second job to buy a PS3 or something like that.

[BranDonk Kong]

PS3 cost 50% more than the PS4 at launch (adjusted for inflation it was probably 60% more). They need to drop support for PS3 soon - by year's end I'd say, to get people to move on. Perhaps dropping support is too harsh - but they need to take it off of store shelves. Really they should add PS3 support to the console via emulation (after they re-release The Last of Us, naturally) and take the PS3 off of store shelves.

[NWR_insanolord]

There's very little coming out on the system the rest of this year that isn't also going to be on PS3. They need something to differentiate it. I get why third party stuff like Destiny is on both, but it doesn't make sense for Sony to keep giving it significant support.

[marvel_moviefan_2012]

again, why not? If the PS4 is selling briskly now without getting all the exclusives and they know it will continue to do so why not milk their entire fanbase for all they can? PS3 still has at least three more years of solid support before they should pull the plug. if PS4 was doing terrible or if there were signs it was slowing down too much then yes but they still have PS Now which when it launches might be a nice draw for some who are on the fence.

[NWR_insanolord]

I think it's foolish to assume the system will continue selling that well without exclusive content. Most of the people who'd buy one purely on potential have probably already bought one. To keep that up, there need to be games that you can't get without one.

[marvel_moviefan_2012]

it's not like they have to get all their sales for the generation in the first year, isn't like year three usually when new consoles hit their stride anyways? i see your point yes they do need exclusive games which is why I am holding off, so others might also be doing the same. They blew past Wii U in less than six months and that machine had a year head start, even if they slow down to Wii U numbers they will still be doing just fine.

[BranDonk Kong]

If they slow down to Wii U numbers (real Wii U numbers, not Mario Kart 8 Wii U numbers), then they will be doing terribly.

[broodwars]

If they slow down to Wii U numbers (real Wii U numbers, not Mario Kart 8 Wii U numbers), then they will be doing terribly.

Indeed, especially since Microsoft seems to be finding their footing and has at least 1 potential system seller this Fall in Sunset Overdrive.  If Sony wants to keep their momentum going and become the defacto primary platform for 3rd party developers, they have to cut the PS3 off. Honestly, as a PS3 owner I want them to cut it off, at least from major retail releases. I don't have the HDD space for new releases anymore. I was ready 3 months ago to make my PS3 my archival system, so it's kind of obnoxious how often I'm having to still boot it up and download new stuff.

[BranDonk Kong]

I threw a 750GB HDD in my PS3 when I signed up for PS Plus...so many free games.

[broodwars]

I threw a 750GB HDD in my PS3 when I signed up for PS Plus...so many free games.

I put a 1 Terabyte HDD in my PS3 3 months ago. I've had to fridge clean the last few months. Often.

[Soren]

I bought a PS3 to basically play the entire system's back catalog. I expect Sony to cut off support for the system once PS4 hits the one year mark. Until then I see no incentive to buy a PS4 but I fully expect (and I'm surprised) Sony doesn't have more current-gen exclusives.


I don't think we'll get the kind of legacy support the PS2 had simply because the numbers on PS3 aren't as astronomical.

[Shaymin]

I don't intend to buy a PS4 for the next two years, so Sony keeping the PS3 alive suits me just fine thankyouverymuch. Failing that, I'll just rely on localization houses and Namco to get me through.

[NWR_insanolord]

I'm not saying I don't understand why you guys want them to keep supporting it, I just don't see what's in it for Sony.

[lolmonade]

I'm not saying I don't understand why you guys want them to keep supporting it, I just don't see what's in it for Sony.

Taking advantage of the PS3's sizable install base, mostly.  Here's the thing: most of the 3rd party developers aren't going whole-hog into the new systems yet, and are taking the same strategy. 


My guess is that since LBP3 is a game that isn't perceived as a "system seller" to Sony, so they feel comfortable with making it for both PS3/PS4 in hopes that the PS4 owners will scoop it up because of craving something new to play, and PS3 owners won't feel left out if they're not necessarily ready to upgrade yet.