Topic: PlayStation4 - News/Rumor/Speculation - Over 1 Million Sold on Day 1

[Adrock]

I like the blue controller.

[Pixelated Pixies]

I like the blue controller.

Yeah, me too. Red is actually my favourite colour, but that tone of Blue looks great and it fits well with the aesthetic of the console itself.
 
I might have to pick one up at some point.

[shingi_70]

I didn't plan on getting a second controller since I planed on using a Vite for those requirements.


All launch day PS4's come with a 30 day trail of PS+, $10 store credit, and Music Unlimited for 30 days.



So there you go without buying anything else you have three games off the back.

[Pixelated Pixies]

Do you know if that offer is US exclusive, or whether or not it will apply to other regions?

[BlackNMild2k1]

I just played a PS4 and honestly, if you had handed me a Wii U Controller, I wouldn't have guesses that it wasn't a Wii U game.
I saw no real graphical difference between Knack and The wonderful 101 except for maybe at style.

The unit itself wasn't bad looking though.

No XB1 in sight where I was at though.

[shingi_70]

What about all the polygons on knack and stuff. TBH the most impressive part of Knack seems to be the enviorment to me and even that seems a bit half baked with them being empty.

You play killzone?

[BlackNMild2k1]

Knack may not have been the best presentation for the PS4, but it was the best on display for the kiosk. Yeah, there was some neat particle effects, that are nothing more than a quickly forgotten effect after the 1st few times you see the character "explode" in all directions. But it really didn't look like anything that couldn't be done on the Wii U to almost identical effect.

Killzone was not present, and I left most unimpressed.
They could have put the PS3 sign in front of it and I wouldn't have noticed any difference.

[Oblivion]

What a fanboy

[broodwars]

Knack's unfortunately probably one of those games that's more technologically impressive than it seems at first and just doesn't demo well. Sadly, Killzone being M rated is probably why it isn't a demo game.

[Kytim89]

Most Playstation 4 games are going to look like PS3 games because Sony's developers most likely do not have enough time to fully take advantage of the hardware yet. After a year or so then the PS4 games will better than what it has right now. The Wii U is the same case. It is not equal to the PS360, but can still be competitive against its newer rivals.

[Louieturkey]

I dropped my preorder for a PS4.  I decided there were no games I wanted at launch and I was out on paternity leave in October, so my funds for November will be light.  I think I'll wait to get one until either a price drop or if FFXV or KHIII are released (or another amazing game is released that I haven't seen yet).
With so little home network media available on it, I think I'll stick with the PS3 for now.  I may even get another one if the deals for them are great.

[Ceric]

KHIII is a myth.
My Son may play it with his future wife when he goes to college but, I still doubt that.

[shingi_70]

So are we making new threads since both consoles are coming out soon. Either two separate ones or a mega non Nintendo thread?

If so I wouldn't mind making them as I have some time to kill.

[Ceric]

Keep them split.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Why do we need new threads?
No one ever reads the first post once the thread is past the first page anyway.
I'll just update the title to something catchy for the launch (suggestions always welcome) and we keep it rolling.

[shingi_70]

every game annouced for the system thus far.

[broodwars]

You missed one, and it's one of the Kickstarters I backed earlier this year: Soul Saga.

[Adrock]

I just played a PS4 and honestly, if you had handed me a Wii U Controller, I wouldn't have guesses that it wasn't a Wii U game.
I saw no real graphical difference between Knack and The wonderful 101 except for maybe at style.

I have no doubt that PS4/One games will look better than Wii U games in time, but the gap in visual advancements with newer hardware is getting narrower. We already had reactive eyes (e.g. blinking, looking around) and individual fingers by the time we got to HD. In terms of graphics, we're just getting better effects that we either generally don't notice or take for granted when playing a game. We have to stop to appreciate these things. How often do we do that in games? For how long?

That said, good graphics is just what I expect these days rather than something that draws my attention as spoiled as that makes me sound. It's like when I watch a big budget action movie. Amazing special effects should just be there. I'm more interested in what they do with it. In Man of Steel, Faora throws Superman into a bank vault. I was impressed by the creativity of the scene more than the effects that make up the scene. I remember looking at CG 10 to 15 years ago and thinking, "Wow!" It's not like that anymore. I don't know if I'm explaining that well enough, but I feel the same way with videogames. All these games look good graphically for the most part. I almost feel like a developer has to try to make a game look bad and even then, sometimes it's on purpose and at that point, is it even "bad" anymore?

So that's what I'm looking for. I already expect the games to look good. How are they using those graphics to draw me into the game's world? It's making me far more critical of other parts of a game. I plan on making the transition to PS4 when the releases warrant the transition (price and available time are other considerations). That's kind of weird to me because in the past, I was drawn to the newness of next-generation hardware. Wii U may be the last time I buy any hardware at launch.

[Oblivion]

That is so wrong its hilarious. Ask any PC gamer. Or hell, actually play a game like Killzone SF right next to a game like Wonderful 101.

If I could figure out how illustrate the difference (I tried to upload some screenshots I took but uploaded I used compressed them to ****) that graphics will get better and that they are noticable .

Particle effects, graphics that look identical to CGI (despite what Adrock thinks, nothing has gotten this close with the exception of Agni's Philosophy).

I'm not saying that the PS4 is there yet, but to say it can't get much better than this due to HD is very ignorant.

[NWR_insanolord]

It really is a shame for Sony that they can't use Killzone for their demo units because that game looks incredible. Like somebody said, it isn't immediately apparent how good Knack looks, but Killzone leaves no room to argue that this isn't a major jump.

[Adrock]

That is so wrong its hilarious. Ask any PC gamer. Or hell, actually play a game like Killzone SF right next to a game like Wonderful 101.

I've watched my brother play PC games dozens of times. Can I notice the better graphics? Yes, sure, but I'm not actually focusing on it. I'm following what's on screen. I'm not claiming the differences aren't there rather that people may appreciate them less.

Additionally, my first sentence was basically stating that even if BlackNMild can't notice a graphical difference in launch games, I think he probably will in future games (though he was comparing W101 to Knack and I can see where he's coming from). I feel like that's partially what you're taking issue with even though I'm agreeing with you to a point. The differences will be more apparent if they aren't already. However, on a separate note, I'm not sure they actually matter. To some people they might. To others (like myself), it's what I expect rather than something I'm impressed by anymore.

(despite what Adrock thinks, nothing has gotten this close with the exception of Agni's Philosophy).

I didn't say it got close; I said gaps in graphical advancements are getting narrower. That's not the same thing. Making something narrower doesn't inherently make it close; it merely makes it closer.

I remember when Solid Snake's character model didn't have eyes then three years later, he totally did. To me, that was a big jump. I appreciated the jump more than going from HD to better looking HD. Perhaps you disagree and that's fine. I won't argue your opinion. However, I will offer a retort if I don't think you are interpreting what I'm saying correctly.

to say it can't get much better than this due to HD is very ignorant.

Nope, I didn't say that either. I admit that I'm spoiled rotten by graphics these days. I've lived through most of the major generational advancements. The last time I was really impressed was when we got to HD. Again, that's not the same thing as saying effects "can't get much better." Eventually, we are going to hit a wall. Personally, I've already gotten to the point where graphics are already so good that I don't care how much better they get. I still think Samus in Metroid Prime looks good.

[Adrock]

I knew this sounded familiar and I already addressed this with you.

I don't play games on PC though I've watched my brother game on PC for the last two years or so. I've mostly been exposed to PS3 which still look good to me. PC games look better, but they don't make PS3 games looks bad. Mainly, I've just gotten used to seeing games beyond standard 480p be it on PS3 or PC and I find myself less impressed by graphics. I know that makes me sound spoiled, but it's also helped me appreciate art design more. It's just far more important to a game's look. Something like Wind Waker still holds up even for a 10 year old game.

[Ceric]

So out of those games these look like they might be interesting:

The Playroom (which  I think come with the system)
Wonder Flick
Transistor
Resgun
Strider
Skylanders Swap Force
Knack
Contrast (seemed interest and since its the PS+ Freebie...)
BG&E2 (Sort of obligated to)
KHIII (See above)
The Order 1886 (This is one I might enjoy the lore more than the game (See Metal Gear Solid))
Destiny
Mad Max (when the price is right)

Those are the ones that caught my eye.  Their may be more once I do some research.  Now if Sony Steam sales like on the PS4 I'll probably end up with a lot of those.

[broodwars]

So out of those games these look like they might be interesting:

The Playroom (which  I think come with the system)
Wonder Flick
Transistor
Resgun
Strider
Skylanders Swap Force
Knack
Contrast (seemed interest and since its the PS+ Freebie...)
BG&E2 (Sort of obligated to)
KHIII (See above)
The Order 1886 (This is one I might enjoy the lore more than the game (See Metal Gear Solid))
Destiny
Mad Max (when the price is right)

Those are the ones that caught my eye.  Their may be more once I do some research.  Now if Sony Steam sales like on the PS4 I'll probably end up with a lot of those.

So is Sony "keeping you hanging on" to your PS4 preorder? You were wavering there for a while. Hopefully when we record our big PS4 episode next weekend, I won't be the ONLY person with a PS4. </peer pressure> :p

[Ceric]

So out of those games these look like they might be interesting:

The Playroom (which  I think come with the system)
Wonder Flick
Transistor
Resgun
Strider
Skylanders Swap Force
Knack
Contrast (seemed interest and since its the PS+ Freebie...)
BG&E2 (Sort of obligated to)
KHIII (See above)
The Order 1886 (This is one I might enjoy the lore more than the game (See Metal Gear Solid))
Destiny
Mad Max (when the price is right)

Those are the ones that caught my eye.  Their may be more once I do some research.  Now if Sony Steam sales like on the PS4 I'll probably end up with a lot of those.

MALFORMED XML :p

What was that you said sonny