Author Topic: PSN = Privacy? Security? Never! (Read 268702 times)

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #425 on:** April 16, 2011, 01:29:16 AM »

Political discussion is against the rules, but so is being a dick about pointing out other people breaking the rules. Leave the moderation to those of us with the power to carry it out, and if you think someone is breaking the rules, hit the "Report to Moderator" button instead of making an accusatory post.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #426 on:** April 19, 2011, 12:17:53 AM »

You know what the ultimate irony is in all of this? I sold my DS but kept my PSP, I have a Sony receiver, and I own three PS3s. I just thought of that earlier. Still though, my PSP and two of my PS3s don't play anything from retail, and I got my third PS3 since it was basically free, and I wanted to play the Mortal Kombat demo (fucking awesome, by the way).

Morari · « **Reply #427 on:** April 19, 2011, 05:28:13 PM »

Mortal Kombat does look awesome...

Stogi · « **Reply #428 on:** April 20, 2011, 03:02:35 PM »

Mortal Kombat looks awesome mostly because it doesn't look shitty.

Morari · « **Reply #429 on:** April 20, 2011, 03:11:13 PM »

The only truly shitty Mortal Kombat game I've ever seen was MK4/GOLD.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #430 on:** April 20, 2011, 03:46:10 PM »

What about Mortal Kombat Trilogy?

Stogi · « **Reply #431 on:** April 20, 2011, 04:15:02 PM »

In my opinion, it's been downhill ever since MK3. They jumped the shark with that one, adding in 6 more ninjas, 10 more robots, and a police officer. (Though Kabal was the ****)

Morari · « **Reply #432 on:** April 20, 2011, 05:10:55 PM »

Quote from: Chozo Ghost on April 20, 2011, 03:46:10 PM

What about Mortal Kombat Trilogy?

Trilogy was pretty fun for what it was. Everyone and everything rolled into one?! Of course, it does take a flack from the hardcore players.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #433 on:** April 20, 2011, 11:09:01 PM »

MK Trilogy is awesome. It's one of the few games where the PSX version was better than the N64 version (when you don't count the loading times). But then again, the N64 version was better than the PSX version too. MK4/Gold are too easy, but I still enjoy both of them. If you get the "final" version of MK Gold (with all of the bugs removed), it's pretty decent.

broodwars · « **Reply #434 on:** April 21, 2011, 12:47:10 PM »

I've been waiting on commenting on this till we got some confirmation on just what is going on, but 2 days later we still have no information so what the hell: PS3 users may have noticed that the PSN has more or less been completely down for most users for the better part of 2 days. You can't login to your PSN account, visit the shop, etc. Anyone wanting to play online in Mortal Kombat is probably completely screwed right now (I haven't heard of that game running off its own service), though thankfully I have heard of no issues with Portal 2 Co-op play (I assume Valve uses their own servers since the PS3 version is tied into Steam). No hacker group has claimed responsibility and Sony is not reporting any scheduled maintenance. I do find Sony's news post on their blog about this issue troubling, as apparently whatever the problem is they don't expect to have PSN back up until probably sometime tomorrow. Well, I'm glad I already installed all the stuff I'm currently playing and downloaded the latest patches. $:-\$

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #435 on:** April 21, 2011, 04:06:26 PM »

Are hackers still targeting Sony? I had assumed since Sony settled with Geohotz and since we hadn't heard anything else from Anon on the matter that the thing had been dropped.

Ceric · « **Reply #436 on:** April 21, 2011, 04:59:21 PM »

Quote from: Chozo Ghost on April 21, 2011, 04:06:26 PM

Are hackers still targeting Sony? I had assumed since Sony settled with Geohotz and since we hadn't heard anything else from Anon on the matter that the thing had been dropped.

*shrug* They have no reason to hit MS or Nintendo currently...

broodwars · « **Reply #437 on:** April 21, 2011, 05:39:36 PM »

Quote from: Chozo Ghost on April 21, 2011, 04:06:26 PM

Are hackers still targeting Sony? I had assumed since Sony settled with Geohotz and since we hadn't heard anything else from Anon on the matter that the thing had been dropped.

After Sony announced the settlement with Geohot, Anonymous released a statement saying that the attacks would continue. According to Playstation Lifestyle, though, their investigation into Anonymous' usual chatting grounds revealed to them that Anonymous is saying they aren't behind this one. There are some rumors that these latest attacks (if that is indeed what they are) are from a much more militant Anonymous splinter group (terrorist cell?) that didn't like the group backing off of taking down PSN.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #438 on:** April 21, 2011, 06:31:35 PM »

I'm guessing this must have been the result of hackers. If it were routine maintenance it would have only been down a short while, and if Sony was doing some major time-consuming overhaul they would announced it before hand. For PSN to have been down for this long of a time suggests something's up.

I wonder why it happened at this particular time, though. A lot of extremists do seem to pick 4/20 as a date to do their ****. For example, that was when McVeigh attacked the FBI building in OKC back in 1995.

broodwars · « **Reply #439 on:** April 21, 2011, 06:46:14 PM »

Quote from: Chozo Ghost on April 21, 2011, 06:31:35 PM

I'm guessing this must have been the result of hackers. If it were routine maintenance it would have only been down a short while, and if Sony was doing some major time-consuming overhaul they would announced it before hand. For PSN to have been down for this long of a time suggests something's up.

I wonder why it happened at this particular time, though. A lot of extremists do seem to pick 4/20 as a date to do their ****. For example, that was when McVeigh attacked the FBI building in OKC back in 1995.

Ordinarily, I'd think something like this would be too major to base around pop culture nerd in-jokes, but hey these are hackers looking for "lulz" so stranger things have happened: According to the revised timeline in Terminator: the Sarah Conner Chronicles, Skynet goes online on April 19th of the given year. PSN started going down on the 19th. Coincidence? Perhaps.

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What's more likely is that the hackers saw that two games with major online components (Mortal Kombat and Portal 2) were both releasing on the 19th, so they decided this was an opportune time to screw with innocent gamers.

Morari · « **Reply #440 on:** April 21, 2011, 08:11:56 PM »

Innocent? You gave Sony your money! You're not innocent!

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #441 on:** April 21, 2011, 08:46:59 PM »

Well, Anon did promise they were going to go after Sony. Maybe no one took them seriously at the time, but it now looks like they delivered on their promise.

broodwars · « **Reply #442 on:** April 22, 2011, 12:06:53 AM »

Quote from: Morari on April 21, 2011, 08:11:56 PM

Innocent? You gave Sony your money!

So because Sony has decided to defend their intellectual property rights, your average Sony consumer deserves whatever inconvenience or consequence that befalls them from self-righteous hackers? Ok, if that's how you feel allow me to turn this around a bit: you've been making a few elitist jabs the last couple days about you being a PC gamer. What if I were to say that PC gamers deserve whatever intrusive DRM and extreme restrictions they may suffer, because the PC is so overwhelmingly beset by piracy that very few companies can make any money off the platform, and that gaming would be better off if companies just stopped supporting the platform altogether? After all, PC gamers aren't innocent in all this! They're statistically overwhelmingly low-life pirates contributing to the destruction of their gaming platform out of pure greed.

Yeah, I wouldn't think you'd like it if I made such a blanket statement, so let's leave the average gamer who has done nothing wrong and are the ones really being hurt here out of this.

oohhboy · « **Reply #443 on:** April 22, 2011, 01:18:10 AM »

I would highly suggest that you watch this video before you continue galloping around on your white horse defending something that needs no defending.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI&feature=player_embedded

It is not a trap of any kind. It's just one man talking. A bit slow I admit, but they are good words.

broodwars · « **Reply #444 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:59:17 AM »

Quote from: oohhboy on April 22, 2011, 01:18:10 AM

I would highly suggest that you watch this video before you continue galloping around on your white horse defending something that needs no defending.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI&feature=player_embedded

It is not a trap of any kind. It's just one man talking. A bit slow I admit, but they are good words.

I watched that link, and there are things I agree with in it (there are certainly some movies and TV series I've only picked up in retail later on because I saw them somewhere else previously). Still, I don't think what he's talking about is entirely comparable with all forms of media on the internet, especially since his argument is about how he was seeing his novels pirated in countries where he wasn't selling them. I really think the slow death of PC gaming and its correlation with the widespread rise of piracy on PC games can't be ignored (or for that matter, what happened with the PSP and its high piracy rate).

That's really all I have to say on the subject, though. We've already had 2 forum threads closed due to arguments on this subject, and I'd rather not see a 3rd get closed as well over an issue that we're just not going to agree on.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #445 on:** April 22, 2011, 07:44:08 AM »

I think everyone needs to listen to Rage Against the Machine's "Bullet in the Head."

Morari · « **Reply #446 on:** April 22, 2011, 10:41:02 AM »

Quote from: broodwars on April 22, 2011, 04:59:17 AM

I really think the slow death of PC gaming and its correlation with the widespread rise of piracy on PC games can't be ignored (or for that matter, what happened with the PSP and its high piracy rate).

Just like how the entire music industry shut down because of Napster, right? Just like how Hollywood is hemorrhaging money because of low quality cam-rips being uploaded? Piracy is a scapegoat. You know it just as well as the industry knows it. Stop pretending that its the consumers fault that products fail. Sony customers look more and more like a bunch of little Eichmanns everyday.

UncleBob · « **Reply #447 on:** April 22, 2011, 03:46:10 PM »

You can't equate the two.

Game makers rarely have merchandise/alternative revenue streams.
Music makers have concerts, shirt sales, etc.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #448 on:** April 22, 2011, 03:50:09 PM »

Piracy isn't the issue. The issue is that Sony sucks ass and antagonizes their own consumers by installing DRM and doing other underhanded things without the user's consent. This is why people hate Sony in particular. Every company suffers from piracy, but Sony is the only ones who are asshoels and deserve to suffer.

MegaByte · « **Reply #449 on:** April 22, 2011, 11:43:48 PM »

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/22/update-on-playstation-network-qriocity-services/

So now it finally comes out. This was not an Anonymous DDoS as so many crappy "reporters" had insinuated. This was an actual alleged hack, but the hack itself didn't bring down the system, Sony did. If this is true, I wonder what they found/what the heck is going on that they still feel the need to keep the systems offline. Terrible communication too.

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Author Topic: PSN = Privacy? Security? Never! (Read 268702 times)