Topic: Recommend Any Good Gamecube Games

[TJ Spyke]

Super Mario World sucks. /derailed

Them's fightin' words.

[Chozo Ghost]

The SNES only had one Mario platformer too (SMW 2: YI was really a Yoshi game as Mario just sat on Yoshi's back).

I consider that a Mario platformer. It has Mario in it and its a platformer. But there was also Super Mario All Stars.

[Mop it up]

Technically it has Baby Mario in it, who, considering he appears alongside Mario in spinoffs, could be considered a different character.

Is Super Smash Brothers a Mario game? Is Punch-Out!! a Mario game? Just because Mario makes an appearance doesn't make something a Mario game.

[NWR_insanolord]

Counting All Stars is like saying there were four Zelda games on the GameCube by counting the Collector's Edition, or three Metroids on Wii counting Metroid Prime Trilogy.

[Chozo Ghost]

Counting All Stars is like saying there were four Zelda games on the GameCube by counting the Collector's Edition, or three Metroids on Wii counting Metroid Prime Trilogy.

You could only get the collector's ediiton by preordering Windwaker so its not the same thing as All Stars which you could easily buy at any retail gaming store. And I'm not saying All Stars counts as 4 games, it was sold as one game (though it has all of them rolled into one cartridge). Plus when you consider that the Lost Levels was never released anywhere outside of Japan up until that point it was for all intents and purposes a new game. The games were also updated with 16-bit graphics and so on as well.

ETA: The Wii did receive three Metroid titles. If you count Metroid: Other M, MP3 Corruption, and Metroid Trilogy as three distinct Metroid games then that equals three. There may even be one or two more before all is said and done.

[BeautifulShy]

Counting All Stars is like saying there were four Zelda games on the GameCube by counting the Collector's Edition, or three Metroids on Wii counting Metroid Prime Trilogy.

You could only get the collector's ediiton by preordering Windwaker so its not the same thing as All Stars which you could easily buy at any retail gaming store. And I'm not saying All Stars counts as 4 games, it was sold as one game (though it has all of them rolled into one cartridge). Plus when you consider that the Lost Levels was never released anywhere outside of Japan up until that point it was for all intents and purposes a new game. The games were also updated with 16-bit graphics and so on as well.

I could have sworn you got the Master quest game of OOT for preordering Wind Waker. The Collecters edition you could get 3 ways. One was registering your Gamecube and I think 2 games on Nintendo.com, One was buying a Gamecube with those games bundled in and through Nintendo Power.

[TJ Spyke]

Maxi is correct, I think Chozo just got them confused since neither game were sold at retail (although you can buy used copies at stores).

[Chozo Ghost]

Yeah, I had them confused. Anyway, whether you can count specially obtained bonus discs as separate game titles is a matter of debate. Super Mario All Stars was a clear cut title sold at retail though. It wasn't some pre-order bonus or anything like that.

[Nemo]

Did you use the analog triggers in F-Zero GX to drift right and left? You could drift a little to the right by pressing a little or a lot by pressing more?

[BeautifulShy]

Did you use the analog triggers in F-Zero GX to drift right and left? You could drift a little to the right by pressing a little or a lot by pressing more?

Yep.

[Sundoulos]

Counting All Stars is like saying there were four Zelda games on the GameCube by counting the Collector's Edition, or three Metroids on Wii counting Metroid Prime Trilogy.

Counting All Stars is like saying there were four Zelda games on the GameCube by counting the Collector's Edition, or three Metroids on Wii counting Metroid Prime Trilogy.

You could only get the collector's ediiton by preordering Windwaker so its not the same thing as All Stars which you could easily buy at any retail gaming store. And I'm not saying All Stars counts as 4 games, it was sold as one game (though it has all of them rolled into one cartridge). Plus when you consider that the Lost Levels was never released anywhere outside of Japan up until that point it was for all intents and purposes a new game. The games were also updated with 16-bit graphics and so on as well.

ETA: The Wii did receive three Metroid titles. If you count Metroid: Other M, MP3 Corruption, and Metroid Trilogy as three distinct Metroid games then that equals three. There may even be one or two more before all is said and done.

I have to agree with Chozo Ghost here; also,the argument can be made All-Stars originally had a bit more effort put in to it than more recent collector's editions.  As a kid, I was excited to play it, especially because of the Lost Levels.

As an aside, don't forget the OOT Zelda collector's disk, which is still one of the few ways that you can still legally play OOT's Master Quest on Gamecube.

Has anyone here ever played Gamecube version of Four Swords?  Is it worth trying as a single player experience?  I've seen it several times at a used book/movie/gaming store, but the price was still too high for me to consider it.  I would have loved the idea of another top-down Zelda game in the Gamecube era, but my impression was that it would have been a little too simplistic to be satisfying.   There's no way I would have bought all the Gameboy and link equipment required to enable the multplayer, which is the same reason I never bought the original Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles...it was too weak as a single player experience and I wasn't about to invest the money necessary to enable multiplayer. 

[Traveller]

I played four swords both ways and enjoyed it both times. It is more fun with four people, plus some of the mini games are entertaining with others. But it is still a great game anyway. How much is it going for these days?
 
 
Oh and for the OP, if you like James Bond games maybe consider picking up Everything or Nothing.

[TJ Spyke]

GameStop has it listed at $14.99

[Kytim89]

Looking back at the Gamecube-Gameboy player Nintendo should have made something similar for N64 games and easy access to backwards compatibility might have helped the Cube against the Playstation 2 being able to play PS one games.

[Toruresu]

Looking back at the Gamecube-Gameboy player Nintendo should have made something similar for N64 games and easy access to backwards compatibility might have helped the Cube against the Playstation 2 being able to play PS one games.

This wouldn't have been a bad idea at the time, if it came in the box. Buying a peripheral to play the last generation console wouldn't have worked. The PS2 came with backwards compatibility because it needed to, it had no games to show and a rushed launch iirc.

[Kytim89]

Looking back at the Gamecube-Gameboy player Nintendo should have made something similar for N64 games and easy access to backwards compatibility might have helped the Cube against the Playstation 2 being able to play PS one games.

This wouldn't have been a bad idea at the time, if it came in the box. Buying a peripheral to play the last generation console wouldn't have worked. The PS2 came with backwards compatibility because it needed to, it had no games to show and a rushed launch iirc.

It would have increased the cost of the Gamecube at launch and that would have been detrimental. All I was saying is that the Gameboy player could have been better suited as a N64 add on for the Gamecube. One of the main selling points for both the Wii and PS2 at their launch was that they could play games from previous generations.

[Toruresu]

The Wii's backwards compatibility was/has been/will always be an afterthought for Nintendo. Remember the "Ohh motion controls!" That sold the Wii.

My point was that if you used a peripheral to play N64 on GC and it wasn't put of the box, it wouldn't have changed a thing. To be honest, I don't think it would've mattered either way. How did the Gameboy player sell?

[Chozo Ghost]

Had the N64 used optical media then the GC surely would have been designed with reverse compatibility in mind. But that wasn't the case. I don't think an N64 player for the GC would have been a wise idea, assuming it could have even been done at all. The only reason the GBA Player was an acceptable product is because GBA carts are tiny and the hardware isn't really that powerful or advanced. In order to duplicate the N64 in this manner probably would have resulted in a product that would almost be as expensive as a standalone N64, if not even moreso. And if that is the case then what the hell is the point?

It also would have increased the size and weight of the system, which would go against the compact and portable design Nintendo was striving for in the GC.

[Kytim89]

I have always wondered what would have happened if the N64 used optical media? Would Nintendo have had a stronger third party to carry over to the Gamecube.

[Chozo Ghost]

I have always wondered what would have happened if the N64 used optical media? Would Nintendo have had a stronger third party to carry over to the Gamecube.

Without a doubt. That was the single greatest factor that caused 3rd parties to abandon Nintendo and go to the Playstation1. I'm firmly convinced if the N64 had been CD based Nintendo would have maintained its dominance in the industry. It wouldn't have sunk to 2nd place in the 5th generation and it wouldn't have sunk to 3rd place in the 6th. Things would have played out very differently to be sure... I doubt the Wii would exist, or at least not the way it does now. Most likely Nintendo's 6th and 7th generation hardware would have been Goliaths, because the N64 was a juggernaut in its day, and had it succeeded it would have endorsed future consoles to be created that way as well.

[lolmonade]

I have always wondered what would have happened if the N64 used optical media? Would Nintendo have had a stronger third party to carry over to the Gamecube.

Absolutely.  I would contend that Gamecube would have at least equivalent 3rd party support to the PS2. 

[Stratos]

I'm gonna argue that they would have still had issues. There were many other things in play than optical media. Their relations with 3rd parties were (and still are to a point) terrible. I'll bet the 3rd party pack was just waiting for a viable alternative to come into play.

[Chozo Ghost]

I'm gonna argue that they would have still had issues. There were many other things in play than optical media. Their relations with 3rd parties were (and still are to a point) terrible. I'll bet the 3rd party pack was just waiting for a viable alternative to come into play.

A viable alternative already existed with Sega, but that only managed to split the market more or less evenly during the SNES/Genesis era. When optical consoles started entering the equation it went above and beyond a viable alternative to something worse...

[NWR_insanolord]

The Genesis was never a viable alternative in Japan. It didn't sell anywhere close to as well there as it did in America. Optical media wasn't the reason most developers left Nintendo. What it did do, though was prevent third parties from bringing the games they built with the fancy FMV and CD quality audio to the N64, which gave Sony a lot of exclusives that would have been multiplatform games if the N64 could have handled them.

[Stratos]

Plus Genesis was splitting it's own market with Add-On Hell.