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« Reply #225 on: May 13, 2003, 11:09:30 AM »
Meh.  What can you do.  I will have to get the PC version then I suppose.    Ah well.

And no, I am not debating that you think MGS2 is a good game.  I am debating your statement that many of us hate MGS2 simply because it's not on GameCube.  That statement was just as idiotic as your claim that making the main character of MGS2 an unlikable wuss was a good "feature".  (I am STILL trying to wrap my mind around that.)
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« Reply #226 on: May 13, 2003, 11:18:31 AM »
the stream of Twin Snakes from the press conference was pretty dark, but the stuff that I made out looked very good. Can't wait to get some more vids.

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« Reply #227 on: May 13, 2003, 11:23:19 AM »
MGS3 is PS2 exclusive just so you know.
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« Reply #228 on: May 13, 2003, 11:30:34 AM »
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the stream of Twin Snakes from the press conference was pretty dark, but the stuff that I made out looked very good. Can't wait to get some more vids.


Tell me... where can I find this video?  I have been awake for 36 hours now, and it's a 20 minute walk home, but I am willing to walk there and back with a CDR if there's a MGS: TTS video for download somewhere.  
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« Reply #229 on: May 13, 2003, 11:33:07 AM »
gamespot did a stream of the press conference. videos of the conference should be up later from Gamespot and IGN

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« Reply #230 on: May 13, 2003, 11:34:32 AM »
Erm, I get the feeling there WONT be a PC version, Grey Ninja.

But I imagine they'll release a Substance-a-like that is multiplatform, maybe it'll be out then.
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« Reply #231 on: May 13, 2003, 11:34:37 AM »
Has anyone seen the Twin Snakes trailer here? From what GamerFeed.com says, it is considerably better than PS2's MGS2. There is also a "leaked" screenshot....If this screenshot is from the MGS: Twin Snakes, it does (at least to me) look about the same as MGS for the PC. In any case, I have yet to see MGS: Twin Snakes in action yet, so I should not really comment. But from the leaked screenshot (if it is indeed the real one) I would say it looks about the same as MGS PC (It was pretty fuzzy). Can anyone comment on this? Or should we just wait until we get some offical screenshots (hopefully soon!!!)

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« Reply #232 on: May 13, 2003, 11:46:53 AM »
boggy, SH2 and MGS2 were both PS2 exclusive as well.  Splinter Cell also had a 6 month exclusivity thingy going with Xbox, but it was released on PC at about the same time.  A PC isn't a console, and gmaes that are exclusive for a console often are released on a PC.  This is especially true of Konami lately, as they have given us SH2, MGS2 (although I pity the man who buys it), and Shadows of Destiny for PC, and promised us Silent Hill 3 in August (another PS2 exclusive).

I am right positive it is coming out for PC.

Anyways, back on topic after the long MGS3 discussion....

I found a screenshot of Twin Snakes.

http://forums.tendonet.com/showthread.php?s=25bbccae996dd2413da00c6595eb34ca&postid=44476#post44476

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« Reply #233 on: May 13, 2003, 01:41:51 PM »
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« Reply #234 on: May 13, 2003, 01:47:52 PM »
First of all I don't really have that much of a problem with MGS3 being PS2 exclusive.  Yeah it sucks for us that don't have a PS2 but it's not that bad.  I was worried that MGS3 would be for every console but Gamecube.  I am a little pissed that Konami is complete stealing the thunder from Twin Snakes with MGS3.  They're practically sabotaging the hype for their own game.

As for that "original game" thing on GC Advanced I figure it's BS since every other site has confirmed it's a remake.  I'm sure the PGC staff can clear it up since they were at the conference.

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« Reply #235 on: May 13, 2003, 01:48:44 PM »
Here are screenshots for everyone from the video. If I didn't have class, I would have recorded the entire stream.

All of the files that are just numbers
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« Reply #236 on: May 13, 2003, 01:49:40 PM »
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go to cube section look at the new screens
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« Reply #237 on: May 13, 2003, 01:51:33 PM »
ignore my previous post,,the game looks great
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« Reply #238 on: May 13, 2003, 02:07:17 PM »
According to an article at cube-europe.com, in another press conference concerning this game they clarified where it is coming from. Supposedly, they are trying to combine MGS and MGS 2 together into one game. Two games in one, awesome.



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« Reply #239 on: May 13, 2003, 02:20:38 PM »
hopefully they'll fix up Raiden
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« Reply #240 on: May 13, 2003, 05:19:08 PM »
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hopefully they'll fix up Raiden


I cannot remember which site I read this on, it was either IGN, Gamespot, or Gaming-Age (pretty sure it was GS though), but Raiden is said not to be in this game at all. I believe the reporter was quoting Kojima himself. Don't quote me on the latter though.  It is appearing that the people who speculated on the "Vietnam" theme may just be right. In the trailer the number 1960 pops up. Gaming sites are believing this game to be a prequal. Everyone wants to do a prequal now-a-days.

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« Reply #241 on: May 13, 2003, 07:12:51 PM »
Ok, is this a straight port (story wise). Cuz I was talkin to my MGS obsessed friend, not that I'm not, but he said that the story for Twin Snakes that planetgamecube gave in their preview was different from the original MGS. He said that Snake wasn't blackmailed and there was no rebellion. Hook me up so I can knock this guy
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« Reply #242 on: May 13, 2003, 08:44:25 PM »
I don't think its a stright port. Its starting to look like its not a port at all. But as its been said it looks like Konami wants to dish out the story on this one.
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« Reply #243 on: May 13, 2003, 08:54:30 PM »
from the teaser video it looks quite identical... i should rephrase that... the story sounds identical... the visuals are MOST certainly NOT identical

edit: hey can anyone that has seen the teaser tell me what a Nightnare? Gore? Comic? is?  
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« Reply #244 on: May 14, 2003, 05:59:39 AM »
If you read the article on IGNPS2 carefully, you'll note that they refer to "launching" and "debuting" MGS3 on the Playstation 2.  A time-exclusivity contract could explain this.  Perhaps there's still a chance for the GameCube...

This is one of the few times that I hope IGN isn't a bunch of blabbering idiots.  Why would they put MGS3 news on IGNCUBE otherwise?

As for Twin Snakes, I'm a little disappointed by the graphics, but it's no big deal.  They won't blow anyone out of the water, but they're clean and attractive, at least.
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« Reply #245 on: May 14, 2003, 06:35:40 AM »
WTF? Why are people saying that this looks nothing like MGS on the PSX? The environments looks almost IDENTICAL, save for the fact they're a little updated. Come on SK, you can do better, even PS2 can manage this level of graphics :-S
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« Reply #246 on: May 14, 2003, 06:37:19 AM »
Personally i liked the original Metal gear for PSX far better then I did MGS 2. I know the sales reflected the same MGS2 was not as ground breaking as most people thought it would as for Twin Snakes I think this could do very well Graphically its a BIG TIME Overhaul..storyline wise I bet its the same...but please tell me whats wrong with that ?!?!?  in the hands of silicon Knights I have no concerns what so ever.. its sold here already  

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« Reply #247 on: May 14, 2003, 07:44:09 AM »
Of course, it'll be a good game.

But seriously, how can you not claim to be fanboys and yet still claim that these graphics are much better than MGS2? Some of the screenshots are pretty poor, even by PS2 standards.
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« Reply #248 on: May 14, 2003, 09:38:51 AM »
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Originally posted by: Berto2K
According to an article at cube-europe.com, in another press conference concerning this game they clarified where it is coming from. Supposedly, they are trying to combine MGS and MGS 2 together into one game. Two games in one, awesome.

MGS: TS info


This sounds like a good bet.  All the screenshots of the trailer I have seen have shown bits and pieces from the first 5 minutes of the game.  I have just woken up from sleeping for the last 16 hours, but I am trying to hunt down a video of the trailer right now.  If anyone has a copy, or knows where to find one, please post here, or send me a PM/email.  Much appreciated, thanks.

But from the sounds of PGC's press conference review, it sounds like this is NOT a straight port.  The above post that I quoted might very well be correct.

MGS2 was originally supposed to be much different than it turned out according to some hardcore Metal Gear fans that I know.  The part on the Big Shell was actually supposed to be MGS3, and MGS2 was supposed to be a continuation of the Tanker stage, which would feature a rampaging Metal Gear in NYC.  However, after the events of 9/11, that was cut, and MGS3 was incorporated into the game instead.

I don't know how true this is, but if it IS true, this might be the MGS2 that we were SUPPOSED to see, included into MGS: TTS.
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« Reply #249 on: May 14, 2003, 09:47:05 AM »
I think you're reading into this too far. The paragraph used fancy words like 'essence', but I think it meant 'mechanics'. Basically, it'll be MGS1 but with the moves of MGS2.
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