Author Topic: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Discussion (Read 262687 times)

MysticGohan · « **Reply #175 on:** May 07, 2003, 07:57:08 PM »

Don't put any thoughts in our heads. (shudders) I'm anxious to see how'll this game is coming along and what stuff has been added. hmmmmm maybe they will pull a metroid on us and include the original game within the game as a bonus. Would be neat being able to play the original Metal Gear and even download it to the GBA for on the go play. heck they could even include MG2 and I don't mean snakes revenge

ThePerm · « **Reply #176 on:** May 07, 2003, 08:35:40 PM »

raiden is too much of a pretty boy for my taste....thats why mgs2 turned me off...however snake was probably one of the most likeable characters iv ever used. He's your regular hero anti hero hero.

MysticGohan · « **Reply #177 on:** May 07, 2003, 09:19:25 PM »

So your saying he's like Spawn? or Wolverine? He's totally badass.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #178 on:** May 07, 2003, 10:02:57 PM »

If you've ever seen Escape From New York, or Escape From LA, that's the character there.

But yes, he's much like Wolverine as well.

MysticGohan · « **Reply #179 on:** May 07, 2003, 10:26:38 PM »

You mean Kurt Russel eh? Yep I watched both, wasn't his nick name Snake? hmmmmmm........ Intresting. Oh and remember the U.S. Has secret special ops codenamed Gray Fox (couldn't resist) although it seems too much of a coincendence that it's similair to Grey Fox *Ninja*

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #180 on:** May 07, 2003, 10:54:24 PM »

Heh. If you played Metal Gear Solid 2, or have a copy, pay special attention to Snake's first appearance on the Big Shell. He gives a name that's quite interesting.

Kojima has admitted that Escape From New York was a large part of the inspiration for Metal Gear Solid.

And yes, the military DOES play video games.

IoriYagami n8 · « **Reply #181 on:** May 07, 2003, 10:55:20 PM »

Yeah, in Escape from New York, and Escape from LA the main character is Snake. Not just Snake, but Snake Pliskin...if anyone recalls a certain someone in MGS2 that should ring a bell. I'm not sure if the movie took that name from anywhere, but it's rather odd for the game to match up so well like that. Of course, they are sure odd movies to give props too in a game.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #182 on:** May 07, 2003, 11:01:19 PM »

Iori, you posted something very similar to my own post, but I beat you to it by just a little. hehe.

You obviously missed an even stranger thing in MGS2 though. Raiden's real name was "Jack", and his girlfriend was named "Rose". Kojima has admitted that this is a reference to a movie as well. Can you guess the title?

(Just gives me more reason to hate that game)

MysticGohan · « **Reply #183 on:** May 07, 2003, 11:07:33 PM »

Impossible for me to get a copy of MGS2 since I do not own a PSX2. But I will own MGS:TTS for GC And I've played the original MGS.

There were also anime referrences in MGS

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #184 on:** May 07, 2003, 11:10:58 PM »

Well, MGS2 also came out on Xbox and PC. But I really wouldn't advise putting any money into it. It's really not that great of a game.

But what anime references do you mean? I caught a general feeling about the game, but I didn't see anything really specific. Lately I have really been wanting to replay the game (even before it was announced for GCN), but I hadn't quite gotten around to it. Anime references just makes me want to replay it even more... I don't know if I can restrain myself...

Tael · « **Reply #185 on:** May 08, 2003, 04:43:03 AM »

I'm pretty sure Otacon is a reference to the anime convention, Otakon.

MysticGohan · « **Reply #186 on:** May 08, 2003, 09:10:12 AM »

and the likes of Gundam

Otacon/Otaku

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #187 on:** May 08, 2003, 12:49:51 PM »

Yeah, Otacon actually says as much in Metal Gear Solid.

It's the code name that he himself chose. He is an admitted Otaku.

Ninja X · « **Reply #188 on:** May 08, 2003, 04:31:24 PM »

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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja

You obviously missed an even stranger thing in MGS2 though. Raiden's real name was "Jack", and his girlfriend was named "Rose". Kojima has admitted that this is a reference to a movie as well. Can you guess the title? (Just gives me more reason to hate that game)

Kojima is an insane man...why would he gain inspiration from Titanic? The relationship between Raiden and Rose in that game actually detracted the whole Metal Gear experience for me.

ThePerm · « **Reply #189 on:** May 08, 2003, 08:42:26 PM »

doesn't the game take place in a big boat...and maybe titanic is a better movie in japanese.

MysticGohan · « **Reply #190 on:** May 08, 2003, 08:52:47 PM »

Nothing's safe with Leanardo in it

Can't wait for news to start trickling out about MGS:TTS

IoriYagami n8 · « **Reply #191 on:** May 09, 2003, 01:38:04 AM »

The Titanic reference with Jack and Rose has good imagery. Titanic was a ship that sunk, and so was MGS2. MGS2 took place on a ship too. I didn't get even half the enjoyment out of MGS2 that I did the original. And I really don't mind not playing as Snake for a good bit of the game (the majority). What really made me mad was bosses like "Fatman", the whole arm thing, the ever so long codec conversations (it took an hour to listen to, and half an hour to fast foward through). The gameplay was expanded in MGS2 which was great, but all the bad aspects of MGS that didn't get that bad were expanded as well. And the gameplay just didn't make up for it this time. I had hoped that the Cube MG game would either be a remake of MGS, one of the old MG games, or even a new MG game. Anything but a port of Substance. Thank god it wasn't that. I certainly hope this does well enough to encourage Konami to put more of their main titles on Cube as opposed to just Disney and Yu gi oh junk. Even if Nintendo seems to be footing the large end of the bill for the game, if sales are good, Konami may decide it's worth investing other things in. MGS3 might even go multiplatform from the start then, if not shortly after it's PS2 debut.

MysticGohan · « **Reply #192 on:** May 09, 2003, 09:24:39 AM »

At least this time you know your gonna play as Snake and not Leonardo....errrrr...I mean Raiden....yeah. MGS was better than MGS2, But what thing's have changed in the new game?

boggy b · « **Reply #193 on:** May 09, 2003, 10:24:39 AM »

WTF? Metal Gear Solid 2 is one of the best PS2 games, and I would go so far as to say that it betters every GCN game except Metroid Prime. Don't get cranky because XBox and PS2 got it and not GCN.

ThePerm · « **Reply #194 on:** May 09, 2003, 10:34:51 AM »

you know im sure there are people complaining on some ps2 forums right now that they got metal gear 2 after playing the glorious metal gear 1 for PSX that this one did not live up to the first and absolutely hate raiden after plaing with a badass like Snake.

bryanee · « **Reply #195 on:** May 09, 2003, 10:56:02 AM »

metal gear solid 2 is a gloryfied interactive movie, and yes i own it.

MysticGohan · « **Reply #196 on:** May 09, 2003, 10:58:45 AM »

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Originally posted by: boggy b
WTF? Metal Gear Solid 2 is one of the best PS2 games, and I would go so far as to say that it betters every GCN game except Metroid Prime. Don't get cranky because XBox and PS2 got it and not GCN.

So your saying that out of all the games on psx2, only MGS2 was any good?

That's really sad, it's obvious you don't know how'll good the original was. Let me addressed your false claims and ignorance. First of all many people here agree that MGS2 was a let down and that most would have preferred playing as snake, second most of the game was FMV and not a whole lot of action. third and let me inform you that MGS2 on xbox sold very poorly, and that it was not brought over to japan for xbox. and the only reason it was ever was released on xbox was because M$ paid alot for it.

And I hate to inform you but most psx2's games are not better than GC, I've find that Mario was fun but does lack something, and Zelda:WW was cool and fun. I can't see how you could bring such feeble minded comments to this thread. I've find that GC has more quality games than psx2 does. Yeah yeah xbox and ps2 both got MGS2, but you forget that the Xbox version was nothing but a direct port and no upgrades, But with MGS:TTS Silicon Knights will be taking Advantage of the GC hardware, and what I'm hearing it looks even better than MGS2.

But I still so no point in your arguement, Most Psx2 games "not all" don't really compare to Pikmin, SMB:M, RE: Rebirth and RE:0, ED, SMB1&2, Sonic Adventure 1&2, Vietiful Joe, and so much more. And I could go on and say that we got the Superior version of Splinter cell "comapared to psx2"

If you don't like what everyone has said about MGS2 in this thread, then I advise you to go elsewhere.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #197 on:** May 09, 2003, 11:12:01 AM »

"And I hate to inform you but most psx2's games are not better than GC"

Inform him? What is this like a fact or something? You're argueing over a difference of opinion.

Bloodworth · « **Reply #198 on:** May 09, 2003, 11:24:45 AM »

Well, actually it would be a fact, but kind of in a silly way. Since PS2 is the market leader all the junk games come out on it and fewer come out on the other systems. So it is true that most PS2 games are not better than GC games. Of course, if you're talking about the games most people actually care about (FFX, MGS2, Shinobi, Virtua Fighter 4) then it's not so easy to compare, but I prefer the GC games.

MysticGohan · « **Reply #199 on:** May 09, 2003, 11:42:54 AM »

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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Well, actually it would be a fact, but kind of in a silly way. Since PS2 is the market leader all the junk games come out on it and fewer come out on the other systems. So it is true that most PS2 games are not better than GC games. Of course, if you're talking about the games most people actually care about (FFX, MGS2, Shinobi, Virtua Fighter 4) then it's not so easy to compare, but I prefer the GC games.

Yay! Bloodworth

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