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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2010, 02:08:25 PM »
And for something completely different, I wish that Pushing Daisies had been saved.  I don't have much to say about it except that it was colorful, creative, funny, and it had an interesting, developing mythology.   My wife and I were hooked on it.   It deserved to go another season or two, but I think it also got cancelled because the ratings couldn't justify the high production costs of the show. 

God, I love that show. I have both seasons on DVD. There was supposed to be a 3rd season in comic book form, but it never materialized.
I was disappointed in that, too.  There were also rumors of a theatrical release, but I didn't have much hope for that, either.  Honestly, I would have even just watched a spinoff with Emmerson Cod and Olive Snook as a detective team; I liked the buddy pairing they had with them at the end of season 2. 


Also, can I just rewrite the last season of LOST so that it doesn't suck?
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2010, 07:25:27 PM »


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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2010, 07:39:33 PM »
Assuming I somehow also had the power to resurrect people, then The Tonight Show With Johnny Carson. Still the best.

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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2010, 07:42:03 PM »
Assuming I somehow also had the power to resurrect people, then The Tonight Show With Johnny Carson. Still the best.

I strongly disagree. It's funny you should say that, though, since I'm wearing my Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien t-shirt today.
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2010, 07:59:25 PM »
Conan is a close second, and there's no shame in that.

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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2010, 09:14:16 PM »
I would also not have canceled Numb3rs.  The existing premise was getting old, but with the last episode they were practically begging for a reboot.  Most of the original cast was moving away, with the Charlie and Amita moving overseas and most of the FBI group leaving for various places.  The show could have continued with Larry and his friend taking over as the analysts, eliminate the math-solving-crime angle and switch it to physics and engineering-solving-crime angle.  This would allow for a whole different set of approaches and whole different set of cases.  This would give the Dad, who is staying around, a chance to be more involved.  Then they bring in a new head for the FBI group to replace Don and several additional new members, leaving those familiar with how effective Charlie and his colleagues had been in a small minority. 

Instead of having Don pushing for Charlie from the top, you have the remaining lower-level guys having to push for Larry to be accepted by the incredulous new guys and their especially incredulous new boss.  Plus Charlie, despite being a genius, rarely acted that strange and could explain stuff to laymen well, but with Larry's eccentric behavior and difficult explaining stuff it would be much more difficult for the old guys to convince the new guys to let him get involved, and the old guys would have to do a lot of translation.  This would force Larry to develop better communication skills over time since he no longer has Charlie and Amita to translate for him and even the Don had difficult understanding him.  Charlie and Amita could still appear as occasional guests giving advice remotely, but their involvement would need to be kept to a minimum and phased out over time.
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2010, 10:08:45 PM »
The show died early on because Brannon and Braga were (are?) incompetent writers and never let the show breath as its own experience.

You got that hilariously wrong (not putting you done, your mistake just made me laugh), that is one person. Brannon Braga is one person, his writing partner was Rick Berman (who basically became head of the Trek franchise after Roddenberry died). Apparently one of Berman's early ideas (before it got shot down by Paramount) was to have the entire first season spent on Earth while Enterprise was being built. Both have done a good job on Trek, but they made a mistake with the early episodes of Enterprise. They eventually improved it, but it was too late. It's a shame UPN didn't give it a 5th season since Manny Coto (who became showrunner in season 4) had explained the differences in the Trek series (like why the Vulcans on the show were so different from future Vulcans) and had tied the series to future Trek events; he also had a ton of great storylines planned for season 5.

No on Conan. I liked him, but I would not put him in the top 2 of Tonight Show hosts (well, maybe better than Carson. Carson retired when I was just 6, but he did not seem funny based on stuff of his I have seen).
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2010, 10:25:51 PM »
No on Conan. I liked him, but I would not put him in the top 2 of Tonight Show hosts (well, maybe better than Carson. Carson retired when I was just 6, but he did not seem funny based on stuff of his I have seen).

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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2010, 10:39:22 PM »
The show died early on because Brannon and Braga were (are?) incompetent writers and never let the show breath as its own experience.

You got that hilariously wrong (not putting you done, your mistake just made me laugh), that is one person. Brannon Braga is one person, his writing partner was Rick Berman (who basically became head of the Trek franchise after Roddenberry died). Apparently one of Berman's early ideas (before it got shot down by Paramount) was to have the entire first season spent on Earth while Enterprise was being built. Both have done a good job on Trek, but they made a mistake with the early episodes of Enterprise. They eventually improved it, but it was too late. It's a shame UPN didn't give it a 5th season since Manny Coto (who became showrunner in season 4) had explained the differences in the Trek series (like why the Vulcans on the show were so different from future Vulcans) and had tied the series to future Trek events; he also had a ton of great storylines planned for season 5.

Bleh, I meant to write "Berman and Braga".  I guess it really has been that many years since I watched my DVDs.   :P:
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2010, 10:45:35 PM »
Berman and Braga didn't have as much to do with Deep Space Nine; they were involved, but didn't really seem to do much hands-on work with it, and then Enterprise didn't really get great until they weren't in charge either.
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2010, 12:54:16 AM »
Berman co-created DS9 (he pitched the idea to Paramount, and developed it with Michael Pillar). He also co-wrote 3 episodes (the pilot, plus the two episodes that introduced the Maquis). He was also one of the three executive producers, and the only one who was on for all seven seasons.

Braga didn't work on DS9 at all. He went straight from working on TNG to creating Voyager (while working on Star Trek Generations in-between).

The two did a ton on Enterprise, they wrote 37 episodes together (although the only season 4 episode they wrote was the series finale, "These Are the Voyages...").
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2010, 03:08:23 AM »
yeah as insanolord said definitely Jericho, that show ended on a ridiculous note..and just had me craving more

i still need to check out the comic book series.

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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2010, 11:50:53 AM »
No mention of Stargate SG-1 or Stargate Atlantis makes me sad. SG-1 needs a proper ending and Atlantis just ended too soon, right when it was getting it's act together and actually being good.
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2010, 02:52:13 PM »
I would have liked to have one more season of Farscape.  They were close to finishing up the story then got pulled halfway through the 4th season so they had to come up with some story to try to tie it all up and ended up screwing the whole thing. 
 
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2010, 09:01:07 PM »
As for live action, I would also consider reviving Star Trek in some form.  I loved Deep Space Nine, and I think it would be nice to get a Star Trek drama based during the Federation at war with an on going storyarc, starting in the middle of the war with the federation desperate and one the losing side of the battles.

Interesting.  I feel bad for Enterprise, because the first seasons alienated so many Trek fans including me, that when it got good it was too late.  Though, that 5th season sounds amazing. 


 
Supposedly, the 5th Season of Enterprise was supposed to be just that, as they were going to do the Romulan War.  But Paramount decided that they were just done with Trek and killed off Enterprise just when it was getting great.
 
In fact, that's the show if I had the resources and connections at the time, I would have taken over.  The show died early on because Brannon and Braga were (are?) incompetent writers and never let the show breath as its own experience.  By the time new writers stepped on to dramatically improve the series in its 3rd and 4th seasons, it was too late.  The damage had already been done.
 
Well, I'd either take over that show or revive The Pirates of Dark Water.  That show was so good that I'm astonished that it has never been revived considering it was also never finished.

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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2010, 09:44:36 PM »
One show that can be done right with new tech is Greatest American Hero. Just keep the theme song the same. Don't think I could find a blonde with an afro in this age.

I second Firefly. And with SG-1, I would re-write it so season 9 and 10 never happened, and force Richard Dean Anderson on a diet. I guess that might be cruel, he could have some sort of ailment that forced him to cut back on activities. I just miss that chemistry the original SG-1 had.

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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2010, 10:27:06 PM »
Since the whole Disney Afternoon was taken...

FIREFLY. Screw FOX, there was a lot of open threads set up during the show and Serenity just didn't fill the itch.


Hell yes. My friend and I will still have hours-long discussions about this show. Joss has hinted that there may be a second movie, and that might lead to a revival.


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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2010, 10:52:41 PM »
I just hate that that Serenity killed off my two favorite characters.
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2010, 11:43:50 PM »
No mention of Stargate SG-1 or Stargate Atlantis makes me sad. SG-1 needs a proper ending and Atlantis just ended too soon, right when it was getting it's act together and actually being good.

Try to watch the SG-1 movies.  They tie up everything pretty well, and offer a bit of closure.

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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2010, 10:34:40 AM »
We need to get Twin Peaks back. Let's forget the majority of the second season and do it right! Come on, Lynch!
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2010, 02:26:02 PM »
My choice would be ReBoot. It ended on an unresolved cliff hanger and damn it was a damn clever show even if I was too oblivious to realise it at the time. It contains so many old school censorship **** you for a kids show. A tight story line. Great cameos. Excellent mythology. Characters I could care about.

Sure the first two seasons could be rendered in real time with my current computer and season 3-4 could also be if it was tweaked for gaming graphics cards with modern shaders. The animation was always a little stiff, but damn did the show have immense charm.

I wonder if Nintendo was watching the show when they designed the GameCube...
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2010, 08:14:59 PM »
as bad as people think reboot looks now, i was amazed by how it looked as a kid. What else was there to compare it to honestly?
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2010, 08:22:41 PM »
as bad as people think reboot looks now, i was amazed by how it looked as a kid. What else was there to compare it to honestly?

Beast Wars, which was animated by the same studio and looked much better.  I think Beast Wars started up roughly sometime during Reboot's original run.
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« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2010, 09:19:12 PM »
Beast Wars the TV show came out in 1996, 2 years after Reboot which was enough time for improvements to be made. Reboot was in development long before it actually came out.

the funny thing i just read was Beast Wars was called Beasties on Ytv because they were uncomfortable with the name....Beasties sounds way worse to me....

also, if i could take over and redo a tv show it would be hands down Power Rangers
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Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2010, 10:24:08 AM »
also, if i could take over and redo a tv show it would be hands down Power Rangers

but what would you do differently to it?
Because according to http://powerrangers.com/ there is another season coming next year.
(this show has been going for 15+ already?)