Topic: Metroid: Other M Review

[Halbred]

To be fair, I found 30-odd Missile Tanks during the story mode. In the post-game, I've found 30-odd more.

[greybrick]

To be fair, I found 30-odd Missile Tanks during the story mode. In the post-game, I've found 30-odd more.

But why are you collecting them? To fight more difficult enemies and bosses, or just for the pure catch 'em all mentality of it?

Hunting for powerups would seem like more fun if there was some reason to power up. Unless the platforming to get to them is challenging and exciting in itself, I can't collect for collection's sake/

[AV]

Zach a few things


1) what did you think of Metroid Fusion?
2) Do you think this game would work better if released before Metroid Prime trilogy. We now know how 1st person Metroid is supposed to work so maybe this would have worked better before that release.
3) Did Piranha's and Dinosaur's coexist and swim the prehistoric ocean at the same time?

[Kytim89]

Is there enough justification for a sequel to this game? I mean I keep hearing bad things about this game, but I am still not willing to give up on it and intend to buy it as I get some money.

[MegaByte]

Is there enough justification for a sequel to this game?

It's called Metroid Fusion.

[DAaaMan64]

Is there enough justification for a sequel to this game? I mean I keep hearing bad things about this game, but I am still not willing to give up on it and intend to buy it as I get some money.

Definitely, I think these game is pretty damn good. Also, I like the idea of Metroid moving from these different styles every once in awhile. (2D side, FPA, this) So maybe they could patch up a few ends, satisfy a few more fans and release an even better metroid in this same style again. Its definitely possible.

[Kytim89]

Is there enough justification for a sequel to this game?

It's called Metroid Fusion.

No, what I meant was a game with the same style and presentation as this title, but with all the flaws fixed. I have to admit that this game is generating interest for Metroid: Fusion in my mind.

[greybrick]

Is there enough justification for a sequel to this game?

It's called Metroid Fusion.

No, what I meant was a game with the same style and presentation as this title, but with all the flaws fixed. I have to admit that this game is generating interest for Metroid: Fusion in my mind.

If you haven't played Fusion, go do it. Sure, the game is a bit linear, but it is a treat nonetheless.

[Kytim89]

Is there enough justification for a sequel to this game?

It's called Metroid Fusion.

No, what I meant was a game with the same style and presentation as this title, but with all the flaws fixed. I have to admit that this game is generating interest for Metroid: Fusion in my mind.

If you haven't played Fusion, go do it. Sure, the game is a bit linear, but it is a treat nonetheless.

All I have is a DSi and I sold my GBA. :  This is why I am asking for a virtual handheld service for the 3DS, but this is not the place for that topic.
 
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=32215.0

[Halbred]

First, Nate, yes, I'm just collecting them all. I believe you get another page of concept art for getting 100%.

Zach a few things

1) what did you think of Metroid Fusion?
2) Do you think this game would work better if released before Metroid Prime trilogy. We now know how 1st person Metroid is supposed to work so maybe this would have worked better before that release.
3) Did Piranha's and Dinosaur's coexist and swim the prehistoric ocean at the same time?

I like Metroid Fusion a lot, and play it often. I don't care for checking in with the computer constantly, and there's a certain point where, if you continue forward, you get stuck in the ending sequence and can't explore anymore, so you have to know where all the secret tunnels connecting the sectors are.

I don't think they would have used the first-person view if Prime had never come out. You would have selected Missiles by holding down B or something.

I actually don't know how ancient piranhas are.

[Bboy]

Great review Zach, best one I've read. I just got my copy in the mail, so I haven't played it yet, but this seems like the most fair review based purely on criticism, not great like IGN's or hating on it like G4, both seem to have let their expectations to get the better of them.

It seems to me that, similar to Zelda (portable vs. main games) and Mario (2D and 3D), Metroid is being split into two types. There's the Super/Prime types and the Sakamoto ones. Other M seems to be a 3D Fusion or Zero Mission in the way Prime was a 3D Super Metroid. The best part of Zero Mission was the endgame too, even just counting after you get back into Zebes. Samus sounds to be the same as from Fusion too.

[Hyrulian Guard]

I wondered who the sarcastic bastard was that reviewed this game. I
 looked at who reviewed it, oh  i see.  The same person who gave Dementium II
 an 8 cause he didnt know how to play it.
 So in real people terms, its probably an 8.5
 
 Again Zach, you missed the point, the voice actor for Samus worked hard
 to get her voice mono tone, while trying to convey emotions.(what the director
 wanted)
 I played about an hour, after work, was tired so went to bed thinking 'why did
 they make her a whinning brat'.

[Halbred]

I think I said that in the review. Lessee..."needy and insecure." Check.

At the time I wrote the review, I was unaware that the voice actress was instructed to be as robotic as possible, but it doesn't ultimately matter--that means the direction was terrible. Okay, she did a great job playing a terrible part. Check.

Why are you ragging on my Dementium II review? The game forces you into kill rooms where you basically have to expend ammo to survive, but when the final boss shows up, if you haven't been conserving ammo like gold, you're screwed. That's not "don't know how to play," that's "a bad game design choice."

Also, and this is important, I GAVE THE GAME AN 8.5.

[NWR_Neal]

I'm about five or six hours into Other M, and I freaking love it. It's not amazing, but it's more Metroid-y than I feel some people are giving it credit. It's not like Super Metroid or the Prime Trilogy. It reminds me heavily of Fusion.

One thing that's worth pointing out is that the boss battles are very organic. There's no huge build-up to an end-of-the-area boss. They just kind of happen, and I like that.

Also, The Deleter. The story is so deliciously awful, and I'm eager to find out what ridiculous and stupid thing happens next.

[Hyrulian Guard]

Dementium II , Really?  " But they put u in kill rooms."  Please, anyone who plays
 servival horror knows u use the infinate ammo of the knife whenever possible.
 
 Where u one of those people who say " metroid prime is an FPS because its in
 first person."  The view matters not, its the gameplay.
 
 As for metroid other M, i liked having my own store of a girl (alien, not human)
 who has a suit and the abilities from a long gone race.
 She was spared the annialation of her people and raised by other aliens who
 combined the remains of her technology with their own. then that peaceful race
was distroyed, yet she survived again, now to fight for good.
 
 but nintendo decided to go a different route. so we will see
 but i like this game, as an evolution of the Super metroid 2D game.

[TJ Spyke]

Samus is human. She has had both Chozo and Metroid DNA infused into her body, but she has always been human.

[Halbred]

I don't think any of the games themselves have directly referenced her being infused with Chozo DNA, except maybe one of the Prime entries in the half-pipe temple room...?

Anyway, I only have four more items to get--one in Sector 1, two in the Bio Lab, and one in the Main Sector. None of them have been particularly hard to get. When in doubt, use a Power Bomb.

[broodwars]

I don't think any of the games themselves have directly referenced her being infused with Chozo DNA, except maybe one of the Prime entries in the half-pipe temple room...?

Yeah, I think that particular piece of backstory might be a creation of the Nintendo Power comic.  All I remember from that Prime 1 Chozo entry is them training Samus and giving her their Power Armor.

[greybrick]

" Where u one of those people who say " metroid prime is an FPS because its in
  first person."  The view matters not, its the gameplay."

 I was one of the jerks that said Super Mario 64 was a 3d platformer because it had polygons and jumping.
 

[TJ Spyke]

After checking, it does appear that that fact only appears in the Super Metroid comic and in the Metroid manga, although the character that gave his DNA has appeared in the games. Anyways, she is human.

[Halbred]

I've said before that the manga is canon, but I'm starting to doubt it. The games and the manga contradict each other in places. I see them as separate things now. I would still like to see a game set in Samus' early and teenage years, growing up with the Chozo and training to become a warrior.

[Jonnyboy117]

These pixel hunts are driving me nuts. They are the only truly excruciating thing about the game so far. The writing and voices are on par with typical video game production, meaning they are bad, but not any worse than we're used to. The difference here, I think, is that Metroid has usually avoided these problems, while Other M embraces mediocre video game storytelling. The really weird thing is that it could have and should have been saved in localization. Most of the really terrible writing is in Samus's narration and during CG movies, when there is no lip-synching. So the Treehouse could have cleaned up most of Sakamoto's script -- either they chose not to, or they actually made it worse. In particular, Samus uses about twice as many words as necessary to say anything, and the whole game has a tendency to tell rather than show, or worse, explain what's going on even as the visuals have already made it perfectly clear. It's really, really bad writing.

[Kytim89]

Give the series back to Retro Studios and call it a day.

[hydropie]

looks like malstrom was right, this game is a ****pile. That may be an exageration but i guess the general consensus is that this game is uncharacteristically low quality for a nintendo game. This is obviously not worth my time. i guess i will just have to wait for DKC returns. Thats the only game thats really worth getting in the horizon in my opinion. 

[broodwars]

looks like malstrom was right, this game is a ****pile.

*reads Malstrom's most recent blog entries on Other M.*

Ooh....kay.  Yeah...that guy's just a tad bit too extreme for my tastes (and one of those "games were so much better back in my day when no one could beat them!" nuts).  Yeah, Other M has its problems, but it is nowhere near as bad as that censored word you used to describe it.