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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #150 on: March 05, 2010, 04:45:20 PM »
Quote from: Kashogi Y. Stogi on March 05, 2010, 10:08:34 AM
My point being, you may want to rethink your opinion. The GC was awesome and you know it!

Oh no doubt! I LOVE Pikmin. The first one. It was PERFECT. PERFECT I SAY!!!

And you're right in pointing out how Nintendo was moving forward in a lot of ways. However, I felt like they were also bumping into creative walls in titles like Mario Sunshine, failing to find a truly compelling hook within the current confines of what they thought the game should be. And with WindWaker, I really felt like the game emerged early, without additional content and polish passes that would've helped. Also, the baton kinda sucked seeing it was a much less fun, way too cookie cutter, version of the ocarina.

Now, don't get me wrong, I love aspects of both games, and the GC era brought a ton of awesomeness in many ways, but key Nintendo titles sorta felt "boxed-in" in terms of scope, concept, and possibility. I personally see the Wii as an answer to challenges Nintendo's principal movers felt creatively with the GC.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #151 on: March 05, 2010, 06:19:19 PM »
Quote from: Stratos on March 04, 2010, 07:12:37 AM
I don't think it's a matter of Nintendo wanting to hide their failure so much and how many people would actually pay money to play those old VB games? Not to many I recon.

Not to mention that there were only 22 games released for the VB, so it probably wouldn't be worth the time or money to make a emulator for it.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #152 on: March 06, 2010, 04:43:08 AM »
Quote from: TJ Spyke on March 05, 2010, 06:19:19 PM
Quote from: Stratos on March 04, 2010, 07:12:37 AM
I don't think it's a matter of Nintendo wanting to hide their failure so much and how many people would actually pay money to play those old VB games? Not to many I recon.

Not to mention that there were only 22 games released for the VB, so it probably wouldn't be worth the time or money to make a emulator for it.

And how many of those were actually good? Like 2-4 depending on who you talked to.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #153 on: March 06, 2010, 04:56:42 PM »
22 total. In North America there were only 14, and we know how Nintendo doesn't like to release Japan-only games elsewhere.

The only Virtual Boy game that I've ever heard was of any worth is Wario Land, and it isn't like that game is some unique concept that can't be found on other systems.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #154 on: March 06, 2010, 08:11:35 PM »
I myself cane name only 5 VB games off the top of my head (Mario Clash, Mario's Tennis, Virtual Boy Wario Land, Telero Boxer, 3D Tetris).

It's not that Nintendo doesn't like to relase Japan-only games, they just don't want to have to translate them. They did release Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels and Sin & Punishment: Successor of the Earth.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #155 on: March 06, 2010, 08:23:42 PM »
http://kotaku.com/5487241/nintendo-patent-implies-a-new-ds-cartridge-design
 
Supposedly Nintendo has just filed a patent for a new DS cartride. What does it mean? Judging by the size of the cartridge, DS games will probably be able to hold more data.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #156 on: March 06, 2010, 08:38:52 PM »
Probably not. Physical size doesn't really have anything to do with it when you consider, for example, microSD cards can hold upwards to 64GB and that's just so far.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #157 on: March 06, 2010, 08:48:36 PM »
Looks like the cart is larger to house something other than just the game.
maybe a gyro sensor, or a something that I likely wouldn't even think of at this point.
But it's hard to know without reading the entire patent.

edit: seen the entire patent and it has no information on what it might be for. Just a design.

edit2: Some speculation based on absolutely nothing.
It could be some sort of flash memory cart used put downloaded software on the DS.
could that be some DSiWare apps that don't need the camera? maybe, but who knows.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2010, 09:05:10 PM by BlackNMild2k1 »
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #158 on: March 06, 2010, 09:01:24 PM »
What could it be? It looks like a Gamecube memory card. The DS in that picture is too bulky to be a new DS. I mean the system is getting smaller with every new iteration and it seems like a step backwards for them. I always expected the cartridges for the new DS system would be about the size of a normal SD card.
 
Also, could Shadow of the Empire appear on VC? I was looking at the number of N64 games on the VC and was astonsihed to find so few games on the service. Nintendo and third party developers need to start releasing more games.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #159 on: March 06, 2010, 09:37:14 PM »
It could, considering the Super Star Wars trilogy saw release. However, there hasn't been a 3rd party N64 game on the VC yet, and Ogre Battle 64 seems to be the odds-on favourite to be the first.

The main problem is you won't be able to access debug mode on a VC release, because the C-stick can't be moved in 4 directions simultaneously.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #160 on: March 06, 2010, 09:46:04 PM »
Unless you play the game with an adapter, like I do for N64 VC titles. :cool;
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #161 on: March 06, 2010, 09:50:15 PM »
Quote from: Kytim89 on March 06, 2010, 08:23:42 PM
http://kotaku.com/5487241/nintendo-patent-implies-a-new-ds-cartridge-design
 
Supposedly Nintendo has just filed a patent for a new DS cartride. What does it mean? Judging by the size of the cartridge, DS games will probably be able to hold more data.

could it have something to do with this?
http://www.patentstorm.us/applications/20090014522/fulltext.html

Holographic storage backwards compatability.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #162 on: March 06, 2010, 09:53:59 PM »
I thought holographic memory was very expensive?
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #163 on: March 06, 2010, 10:36:36 PM »
Nintendo has been heavily invested in it for close to a decade now.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #164 on: March 07, 2010, 12:48:37 AM »
Quote from: Kytim89 on March 06, 2010, 09:01:24 PM
Also, could Shadow of the Empire appear on VC?
I've heard tell that Nintendo isn't allowing third-parties to release Nintendo 64 games for whatever reason. However, that game was published by Nintendo so I'd say it at least has some small chance.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #165 on: March 07, 2010, 01:48:01 AM »
Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on March 06, 2010, 08:48:36 PM
Looks like the cart is larger to house something other than just the game.
maybe a gyro sensor, or a something that I likely wouldn't even think of at this point.
But it's hard to know without reading the entire patent.

edit: seen the entire patent and it has no information on what it might be for. Just a design.

edit2: Some speculation based on absolutely nothing.
It could be some sort of flash memory cart used put downloaded software on the DS.
could that be some DSiWare apps that don't need the camera? maybe, but who knows.

I'll bet it's just a new dev cart for programmers to use to make their games. Remember the GBA and N64 has similar things. This could be the new 'dev team flash card' for the DS2. Those are always larger than normal and Nintendo patenting one might permit them to prevent 3rd party versions to be released commercially and help prevent 'R4' type piracy.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #166 on: March 07, 2010, 01:53:20 AM »
Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on March 06, 2010, 10:36:36 PM
Nintendo has been heavily invested in it for close to a decade now.

How good of a storage medium is it compared to the other types? Second, why wont Nintendo allow third parties to release content on VC? There are a lot of good games from third parties.

What about Star Wars: Rogue Squadron?
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #167 on: March 07, 2010, 03:39:23 AM »
Quote from: Kytim89 on March 07, 2010, 01:53:20 AM
What about Star Wars: Rogue Squadron?

There is the rumored Rogue Squadron game coming to Wii by White Harvest (a.k.a. New Factor 5). We have no idea what this game will contain. The closest thing we have to a hint is when they talked about porting RS3 to the Wii for testing purposes. It could just be RS3, or just RS2, or both RS2+3 or even include the N64 titles. I'm personally hoping that it has all 3 RS titles along with The Battle for Naboo with the N64 titles getting graphical and content upgrades as well. A 'Special Edition Anthology' of sorts.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #168 on: March 07, 2010, 10:14:07 AM »
That crtridge in that picture might actually be smaller than what is being shown. Perhaps it was super imposed for emphasis?
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #169 on: March 09, 2010, 05:08:37 PM »
Supposedly Netflix is considering bring Netflix to the DSi. Does the speakers of the next DS need any improvement?
 
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #170 on: March 09, 2010, 06:03:43 PM »
By the time netflix got around to making that functionality happen, it could be a bullet point(selling point) of DS2, but it would be nice if they could get it to work on a standard DS too.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #171 on: March 09, 2010, 06:11:21 PM »
They're talking about doing it on the iPhone as well, but I'd be interested in this too since streaming video takes a lot of battery life, which is less crucial on my DS than on my phone.
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« Reply #172 on: March 09, 2010, 06:36:19 PM »
Could they do it with the DSi? Not only should they allow video streaming, but I want to be able to play the movies I already have in my collection.
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Re: What we Want From the Next DS Hand Held
« Reply #173 on: March 10, 2010, 03:43:29 AM »
The only thing that  I really want with the nextiteration of the DS is true backwards compatibility with DS and GBAsoftware. They can do whatever they like with thesystem as long as I can easily play my old games.
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« Reply #174 on: March 10, 2010, 10:23:16 AM »
Quote from: jackbency on March 10, 2010, 03:43:29 AM
The only thing that  I really want with the nextiteration of the DS is true backwards compatibility with DS and GBAsoftware. They can do whatever they like with thesystem as long as I can easily play my old games.

Would you prefer a virtual handheld service?
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