Topic: iPad...meh

[TJ Spyke]

CN is the empty husk of what used to be the Cartoon Network

fixed.

Other than a few shows, Cartoon Network is still really good. Pokémon DP: Galactic Battles (although the new season starts this month and will be called Pokémon DP: Sinnoh League Victors), The Boondocks, King of the Hill, American Dad!, Family Guy, The PJ's. Those are pretty much what I watch on it.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Adventure Time!!?

[Plugabugz]

I saw someone using this in a train station in central london yesterday evening around hometime. Given it's one of the most cramped stations imaginable, all someone needed to do was knock him (easy given the streams of people at 5.30pm!) and it's on the floor.

[NWR_insanolord]

It sounded ridiculously overblown when he said it, but Steve Jobs was right: this thing is magical and revolutionary. After a few days of using it I'm convinced that this is the future of computing.

You definitely want one of these. Maybe wait for a price drop, or wait for the Android one if you prefer that OS, but I can't recommend it enough.

[ShyGuy]

what do you use it for insanolord?

[NWR_insanolord]

I've been using it for pretty much everything the past couple days; I've barely used my regular computer. I've been writing a paper on it, which works surprisingly well. If you use it in landscape orientation the onscreen keyboard is big enough to touch type on, and I've been able to do so with abut the same speed and accuracy as on my regular keyboard. The only thing that slows me down is certain punctuation, which requires an extra step.

This thing truly is the best way to browse the web, especially for me since I don't frequent any sites that make extensive use of Flash. The iPhone is capable of viewing the full, regular Internet, but its limited screen space made it so that it was still often ideal to adapt a site specially for it. The iPad uses the same browser, outside of the UI, but the screen size makes so much of a difference. It really is basically a big iPhone, but the doubled screen size makes a huge difference.

Now that I have this, I'll give real thought to buying a desktop next time I buy a computer, or at least a larger notebook. I bought my 15" notebook for portability, but this is more than capable of doing most of the things I'd need to do away from my desk. I can't wait for OS 4.0 to make this even better, but I can already say that I in no way regret the small fortune I spent on this thing.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I will definitely be keeping an eye out for the android version since me and Apple products (through my limited exposure) have never really gotten along.

[Stogi]

Saw it today out in the wild. Played with it a little bit. And as expected...it's pretty slick...

That said, I have no idea how I would use it and if given one, I would still sell it.

[gbuell]

I've been writing a paper on it, which works surprisingly well. If you use it in landscape orientation the onscreen keyboard is big enough to touch type on, and I've been able to do so with abut the same speed and accuracy as on my regular keyboard. The only thing that slows me down is certain punctuation, which requires an extra step.

Yeah, after playing with it in Apple stores a few times, I have to say that I was really surprised how quickly I was able to type on the landscape keyboard. There was very little difference in speed between typing on that and on a regular keyboard for me! I'm convinced that people who continuously crap on the iPad's virtual keyboard simply haven't tried it. When you factor in the auto-correction, which I've had a lot of good luck with generally, you've got a pretty damn good typing device.

[NWR_insanolord]

They either never tried it or only tried it in portrait, where the keys are just a little bit too small for it to work. I've surprised myself by spending most of my time with my iPad using it in landscape orientation. I never use my iPhone in landscape unless an app requires me to, but with the iPad it's the exact opposite.

[gbuell]

Yep, I expect to use the iPad in landscape almost all the time, it just looks better that way. I wish the iPhone/iPod Touch would modify the home screen to rotate to landscape, then I'd use my iPod Touch the exact same way.

[NWR_insanolord]

There are supposed to be over 100 new features in OS 4.0; maybe that's one of them.

[BranDonk Kong]

100 new features my ass. Unless they count stuff like transition screens and sounds as features...

[gbuell]

Here are 60 of the known ones: http://www.technobuffalo.com/blog/iphone/ultimate-list-of-iphone-40-features

[BlackNMild2k1]

Apple Store Clerk in response to customer trying to buy an iPad: “All I can say is that you have reached your lifetime limit."

[NWR_insanolord]

Here are 60 of the known ones: http://www.technobuffalo.com/blog/iphone/ultimate-list-of-iphone-40-features

I remember reading through the lists like that for 3.0. It's cool how, although a lot of them are minor tweaks, you'll find at least a few of those minor tweaks to be really great for the way you use the device.

[TJ Spyke]

Apple Store Clerk in response to customer trying to buy an iPad: “All I can say is that you have reached your lifetime limit."

Haha, that's funny. I don't get why those people weren't willing to wait a month.

As for OS 4.0, I couldn't care less (this is the correct expression, saying "I could care less" means you DO care about it). Why? Because I have an iPod Touch. If the 3.0 upgrade is any indication, iPhone users will get the upgrade for free and iPod Touch users will have to pay $10 for it.

[NWR_insanolord]

Even if you don't have one new enough to be able to multitask, the update is certainly worth $10.

[TJ Spyke]

Not from what i've seen. Besides, either everyone should have to pay for the upgrade or no one should.

[NWR_insanolord]

It's factored into the subscription plan for the iPhone; you're paying, just not in the same way.

[TJ Spyke]

Not quite, but I know that the monthly fee is part of the reason. Steve Jobs gave some BS excuse that they legally couldn't give the update for free to iPod Touch owners.

As for multasking, I do have a 3rd gen iPod Touch (but wouldn't be able to use multitasking because I have the 8GB model, multitasking will only work for the 32GB and 64GB models according to Apple).

[gbuell]

Not quite, but I know that the monthly fee is part of the reason. Steve Jobs gave some BS excuse that they legally couldn't give the update for free to iPod Touch owners.

How is the excuse BS? Are you doubting that they would give the update for free if they could? I'm sure that upgrade fee isn't a big revenue generator for them. The reasoning is totally legit.

The 8GB iPod Touch isn't really "3rd gen" at all, it's still just the 2nd gen model. Only the 32 and 64 GB models are 3rd gen. I have the 64 GB model, and I am definitely willing to pay $10 for multitasking, folders, and (this is a big one for me) email threading! A lot of the other stuff is nice too.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Not quite, but I know that the monthly fee is part of the reason. Steve Jobs gave some BS excuse that they legally couldn't give the update for free to iPod Touch owners.

How is the excuse BS? Are you doubting that they would give the update for free if they could? I'm sure that upgrade fee isn't a big revenue generator for them. The reasoning is totally legit.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but don't try to swallow everything they feed you all at once. You might end up choking.

[gbuell]

Not quite, but I know that the monthly fee is part of the reason. Steve Jobs gave some BS excuse that they legally couldn't give the update for free to iPod Touch owners.

How is the excuse BS? Are you doubting that they would give the update for free if they could? I'm sure that upgrade fee isn't a big revenue generator for them. The reasoning is totally legit.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but don't try to swallow everything they feed you all at once. You might end up choking.

::eyeroll:: When did I say I swallow everything they feed me? This upgrade fee thing is well-documented and understood, it's not something Steve Jobs just pulled out of his ass and everyone's just saying "I guess I believe you..."

[BlackNMild2k1]

I not saying you do, but to instantly brush off the "legally we couldn't provide you with a free update from us on our own hardware that we make all the rules on" excuse without any proof what so ever simply because they said so, makes it seems like your buying whatever they're selling for the moment.

Is there actually a legal reason as to why they couldn't?
I ask because I really don't know. And like I said before, I'm not saying your wrong, but I've never seen mention of the law that says they can't, and you just brushed it off too easily.

I say all this as an outsider without too much insight on the topic BTW.
I'm not a Mac person, so I don't really follow Apple related news.