Author Topic: iPad...meh (Read 70240 times)

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #225 on:** April 20, 2010, 04:58:02 PM »

They lost that ad war big time. Verizon has a brilliant attack plan with those ads and they worked beautifully.

Besides, it's in AT&T's best interest to just focus on 4G at this point and not try to play catch up with the soon to be outdated 3G.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #226 on:** April 20, 2010, 05:22:22 PM »

It's going to be several years before anywhere close to a majority of phones on AT&T's (or Verizon's or anyone's) network are capable of 4G. They need to invest in 4G, but they need to make significant improvements to their 3G network as well.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #227 on:** April 20, 2010, 05:34:29 PM »

Verizon and AT&T are launching 4G at the end of this year. Sprint has already lauched theirs.

I'm not waiting for a 4G phone since your right, the network will only cover the most heavily populated areas of the country first, and it will be 2-3 years before all major cities and their suburbs are covered, but have you seen the spec sheet for the 4G techs that are coming out?

If deployed right, 4G could blanket the US faster than 3G did.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #228 on:** April 20, 2010, 05:44:52 PM »

I'm not talking about the fact that it's only going to be in the biggest cities initially; I'm talking about the fact that only a few phones will support it, even by the end of this year. Well over 90% of the people who buy phones this year won't be able to use 4G, and 100% of everyone else as well. Most people buy phones with a contract which would limit when they could buy a new phone; I know that when I buy my new iPhone later this year, which has been pretty much confirmed to not have 4G, I won't be able to upgrade to a new one (without paying more than twice the price) for at least a year and a half. It's going to be a long time until 4G has enough market share to fully focus network development on it.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #229 on:** April 20, 2010, 06:00:15 PM »

Of course. Why would there be phones to support a standard that hasn't been released yet?

as far as AT&T & Verizon are concerned, there won't be a 4G phone until the end of the year since they have no 4G network yet.

I expect AT&T to continue their slow strengthening of their 3G network, but I was saying that they should focus on making sure their 4G network is top-notch right off the bat so that they aren't behind the curve again in the next round of cell tower tech/coverage.

They currently sit in 3rd behind Verizon (#1) and Sprint (#2) since they both have compatible 3G networks, so it would be in AT&T's best interest to focus on superior 4G coverage going forward since to neglect it and funnel all resources to 3G at this point would be kind of stupid.

Sort of like Nintendo releasing a WiiHD next summer and then Wii2 (that's Wii BC)that holiday. Waste of resources.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #230 on:** April 27, 2010, 03:06:28 PM »

I'm keeping my eye on competing tablets coming out this year. Waiting for a nice "TV companion" I can use when i'm on the kowch.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #231 on:** April 27, 2010, 03:14:17 PM »

Quote from: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 27, 2010, 03:06:28 PM

I'm keeping my eye on competing tablets coming out this year. Waiting for a nice "TV companion" I can use when i'm on the kowch.

and which ones would that be?
I already know about the Gemini (Tegra 2 Android tablet), but which others look promising?

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #232 on:** April 27, 2010, 03:24:56 PM »

Asus and MSI will debut theirs soon
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1602759/asus-announce-eee-pad-tablet

Initial specs of the Asus pad
http://www.asustablet.com/asus/specifications/

I'm not thrilled with their "competitive" prices around the iPad's $500 (instant no-buy. make it $350-400). I can do without the mobile telecom stuff.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #233 on:** April 27, 2010, 04:07:22 PM »

So we have the

Asus Eee Tablet: 7" / Tegra 2 / Android / 0.3mp webcam
http://www.asustablet.com/asus/specifications/

ICD Gemini: 11.2" / Tegra 2 / Android / Dual Camera (2mp/5mp)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/06/icds-tegra-2-powered-gemini-is-the-most-feature-complete-tablet/

Dell Looking Glass: 7" / Tegra 2 / Android? / 4GB RAM / 1.3mp camera
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-looking-glass-tablet-leaks-tegra-2-coming-your-way-in-nove?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget

Toshiba Tablet: 7" / Tegra 2 / Android /
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/toshibas-tablets-said-to-offer-tegra-2-power-have-we-already-s?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget

and then the iPad which has already released

at this point, I have my eye on the Gemini(nice big screen & dual cam) and the Looking Glass (just for the amount of RAM).

Stogi · « **Reply #234 on:** April 27, 2010, 05:38:04 PM »

Damn the Gemeni is sick!

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #235 on:** April 27, 2010, 06:09:49 PM »

So what's the Gemini cost? Five grand?

My Asus (Intel Atom) netbook was $250 on sale, with 4hr battery. I intended to use it as a text chat interface as a substitute for Wii Speek.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #236 on:** April 27, 2010, 06:50:24 PM »

Quote from: Chokes on Horses on April 27, 2010, 05:38:04 PM

Damn the Gemeni is sick!

I first posted it back on pg 6 of this thread "iPad Killer"

Quote from: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 27, 2010, 06:09:49 PM

So what's the Gemini cost? Five grand?

My Asus (Intel Atom) netbook was $250 on sale, with 4hr battery. I intended to use it as a text chat interface as a substitute for Wii Speek.

I'm hoping it's competitively priced to the iPad since it looks to blow it out of the water, but since the other Android based tablets look to be aiming for the $400-$500 price range, I would guess $550-$650.

D_Average · « **Reply #237 on:** April 27, 2010, 07:47:16 PM »

Nice to see so much competition out the gate! Took a while for people to really take shots at the iPhone with comparable products. This should make for a major iPad upgrade next year.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #238 on:** April 30, 2010, 01:51:05 AM »

D_Average · « **Reply #239 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:01:16 AM »

Maaaan, I want one now

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #240 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:26:16 PM »

I hope one of those Android tablets actually materializes, or else the iPad isn't going to have any competition since HP and Microsoft both canned their tablets. The iPad had usurpers to its throne before it was even officially announced, and now those same competitors have surrendered before the war even started.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #241 on:** May 03, 2010, 01:26:56 AM »

Well HP did just buy Palm so that they could possibly resurrect their tablet using the Palm OS.

gbuell · « **Reply #242 on:** May 03, 2010, 11:11:52 AM »

Yeah I'm almost positive HP canned their Windows tablet so they could focus on using Palm's webOS instead.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #243 on:** May 04, 2010, 09:22:19 PM »

This isn't necessarily iPad releated, but it's Apple being Apple.

Ellen makes a joke about the iPhone and Apple makes her apologize.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/ellen-pokes-fun-at-apple-and-then-apologizes/

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #244 on:** May 05, 2010, 09:04:50 PM »

I love the way Apple's been acting lately; it's been resulting in great material from Mosspuppet and Fake Steve.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #245 on:** May 06, 2010, 10:21:54 PM »

Guy demoing Android tablet talks about how great it is that it has Flash; Flash crashes the Android tablet.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #246 on:** May 06, 2010, 11:32:54 PM »

I could probably find a million videos of "guy buy iPod, iPod stops working," I could make about 4 or 5 of them from all of the broken iPods in my house. Same thing with several people I know and their iPhone.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #247 on:** May 07, 2010, 12:22:56 AM »

Yes, but how many could you find that are as poetically perfect as that one?

I hope you can see that, regardless of why they're doing it, Apple is really driving adoption of HTML 5 across the Internet, and that that is definitely a good thing. In typical Apple fashion they've declared something obsolete before it actually is, but this time they're actually in a position to hasten its demise.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #248 on:** May 07, 2010, 03:23:04 PM »

They declared something obsolete before it actually is - kind of like they do with their iPods/iPhones every year.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #249 on:** May 08, 2010, 06:37:59 PM »

So I tried one of these at Best Buy today, it does have a nice screen, but it had a hard time detecting rotation. In reality, this is a $200-$400 value item, nothing more.

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