Topic: iPad...meh

[NWR_insanolord]

It doesn't sound like he had the chance to have an iPad for free and passed it up; he decided he'd rather have something else for his birthday. It wasn't a choice between having an iPad and not having an iPad, it was a choice between an iPad and something else. I doubt he'd have said no if it had truly been free, with no trade-offs.

[Stogi]

Well regardless. He's befuddled because he doesn't no what else to get. Nothing comes to mind. But he knows for certain he doesn't want an iPad. It's not even an option anymore.

Just sayin'.

[BranDonk Kong]

BTW, when you have more than one, it's penii. It's not a real word, but it sounds more awesome.

[Spinnzilla]

My main problem with the Ipad is the pricing.  It's hard to convince me to shell out $500 for something that's so download relient and only have a 16 gig harddrive.
 
Plus, just touch screen tech is overrated.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I think we have an iPad killer on our hands.... probably cost the same too.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/06/icds-tegra-2-powered-gemini-is-the-most-feature-complete-tablet/

Tegra 2 Android based 11.2" widescreen tablet.
App store, makes calls, does txt, takes pics, does video/chat and uses USB items.

How long is 40 Watt hours though?

[NWR_insanolord]

I don't think people really care about the iPad not being able to make calls; it's not portable enough to be a full-time phone and who's going to want to pay upwards of $40 a month in addition to their regular phone. As for the other stuff, I'm a die hard Apple fanatic, but I can't defend the decision to withhold the camera until version 2, and although I don't care about USB connectivity it seems like something a lot of people do care about.

It may be an iPad killer in terms of features (at least for right now), but, like the Droid and Nexus One, it won't win in terms of sales, and I doubt it'll be close.

EDIT: I suppose it wouldn't cost that much, probably just $10 for an extra line, but I still can't think of a reason it'd be worth it.

[BlackNMild2k1]

video chat?

[NWR_insanolord]

video chat?

That falls under the part where I can't defend Apple's decision to wait until version 2 for the camera; I'd assume any video chat would be through VOIP and not the provider's service. They'll be trying to sell that thing as a video chat device right around when Apple unveils the next iPhone with its heavily rumored front facing camera for video chat.

[Plugabugz]

People are ALREADY complaining about the dodgy wifi.

Didn't take long.

[EasyCure]

The next iPod touch will probably have all of that stuff. If they added everything all at once, there would be no reason to buy a new one every year. Look, I'm not going to be happy until I convince you that is sucks and you shouldn't buy one, ever.

^I love this post.

I have no evidence to back it up, but I've got a feeling that multitasking is going to be in iPhone OS 4.0, which should be coming out within 6 months.

I have no evidence to back this up, since I just read it today and it was more speculation about OS 4.0.. but it looks like OS 4.0 will allow only limited multitasking. That is, it'll be slightly better than whats already being offered (multitasking between Apples apps), but still limited. Looks like they'll be handpicking certain apps that you're allowed to multitask with. What gives?

Again, i have no evidence to back that up, BUT.. this is one of those safe bets that analyst throw out for credibility.

[BranDonk Kong]

They'll pick certain, low-resource apps, so it doesn't hinder the performance, at least not noticeably.

[NWR_insanolord]

After reading what the multitasking can do, which anyone who's interested can do here, it seems like Apple addressed everything I care about. You can stream audio (Pandora, etc.) in the background, use VOIP like Skype in the background, finish long tasks in the background, use location-based services (GPS), they've implemented something like save states on the Virtual Console so you can jump back to the exact point you were at when you switch back to an app, and push notifications no longer require an external server; I really don't know what else you could need. Also exciting for me is the fact that you can now finally use folders for apps on the home screen, and especially that it is at long last possible to create and edit playlists on the device.

[MegaByte]

I was thinking Apple made some good moves in iPhone OS 4.0, but then I saw this.  **** Apple.

[NWR_insanolord]

The cold war between Apple and Adobe just got hot. Personally, I don't disagree with the sentiment behind the rule, but I can see how it would piss a number of people off. I'm curious to see how Adobe will respond to this.

[MegaByte]

It's pretty clear that this is a direct attack on Adobe, but it's going to affect a lot of other software.  For instance, Virtual Console-like games will not be allowed since the games are emulated, not directly coded.  This ridiculous over-control is starting to turn devs off of the platform.

[vudu]

I have a couple quick questions about iPhone 4.0.

1)  Is it new hardware or it is just a software update?
2)  Is it only for the iPhone or will there be an iPod Touch version as well?

[NWR_insanolord]

Emulators were already technically against the rules, though there have been exceptions. If this truly is the shot at Adobe it appears to be, it's not unlikely that Apple would make exceptions for such other products as well.

  I have a couple quick questions about iPhone 4.0.
 
  1)  Is it new hardware or it is just a software update?
  2)  Is it only for the iPhone or will there be an iPod Touch version as   well?
 

It will be a software update for older hardware as well as for new hardware, but certain features, most notably multitasking, require at least a 3GS. The software update will be available for iPod Touch users, though it may require a small fee (previous versions have been $10 for the upgrade).

[BlackNMild2k1]

I was thinking Apple made some good moves in iPhone OS 4.0, but then I saw this.  **** Apple.

Sooooo

Apple vs Microsoft (Mac vs PC)
Apple Vs Google (iPhone vs Android)
-Apple+MS vs Google (Bing vs Google Search)
Apple vs Nintendo (iPhone vs DS)
Apple vs Adobe (iPhone vs Flash)
Apple vs Sony (iPhone/iPod vs PSP/Walkman)

is there anyone Apple isn't competing with?

[MegaByte]

Emulators were already technically against the rules, though there have been exceptions. If this truly is the shot at Adobe it appears to be, it's not unlikely that Apple would make exceptions for such other products as well.

General emulators were... as in ones where you could load ROMs, or apps that let you run other programs.  I believe integrated ones that only ran a specific game were okay.  This change moves it down a level.

[MegaByte]

is there anyone Apple isn't competing with?

Add Apple vs Amazon (iTunes vs MP3 Store, iPad vs Kindle)
Not to mention iAd, etc.

[BlackNMild2k1]

what is iAd?

is that to compete with Google on their home turf?

[NWR_insanolord]

I was thinking Apple made some good moves in iPhone OS 4.0, but then I saw this.  **** Apple.

Sooooo

Apple vs Microsoft (Mac vs PC)
Apple Vs Google (iPhone vs Android)
-Apple+MS vs Google (Bing vs Google Search)
Apple vs Nintendo (iPhone vs DS)
Apple vs Adobe (iPhone vs Flash)
Apple vs Sony (iPhone/iPod vs PSP/Walkman)

is there anyone Apple isn't competing with?

I don't think Apple's really taken a side in the search engine battle yet, and if they have then they're with Google, as it remains the default search engine in all versions of Safari. There have been rumors lately of Apple developing their own search engine, but I don't put much stock in them. And they must thrive on the competition, as they keep posting record financial numbers.

Emulators were already technically against the rules, though there have been exceptions. If this truly is the shot at Adobe it appears to be, it's not unlikely that Apple would make exceptions for such other products as well.

General emulators were... as in ones where you could load ROMs, or apps that let you run other programs.  I believe integrated ones that only ran a specific game were okay.  This change moves it down a level.

But despite that rule Sega has a Genesis emulator with in-app DLC purchases of games; I'd wait until when and if Apple rejects one of these collateral damage apps to see if they care about enforcing the rule outside of the Adobe situation.

what is iAd?

is that to compete with Google on their home turf?

Bingo.

[mantidor]

Apple is starting to annoy me, the can make crap and sell tons of it.

So far I didn't care, but it boogles the mind that some people think the iPad works as good book reader when the e-ink devices are far, FAR superior.

And I don't care all the people defending lcd screens, they are in denial and going blind when they reach old age, I've tried reading papers in my desktop computer and it only gives you a headache, even newspaper articles are painful. For browsing a forum and looking at video lcds are ok but anything longer than a couple of paragraphs is torture.

[vudu]

It will be a software update for older hardware as well as for new hardware, but certain features, most notably multitasking, require at least a 3GS. The software update will be available for iPod Touch users, though it may require a small fee (previous versions have been $10 for the upgrade).

My dad has a second generation 16 GB iPod Touch.  He wants to upgrade to a 64 GB one.  Any significant reason why he should wait for the new model or should he just upgrade now?

[BlackNMild2k1]

future proofing. The new iPod should be out this summer, so it's not like it's that long of a wait.